Why Do Those That Do Not Believe In The Pre-Trib Rapture ALWAYS CONDEMN Those That Do Believe In The Pre-Trib Rapture?

Nope.
the bible doesn't suggest a secret coming,and then a public one.

As told to the apostles by the angels,they will see Christ descend to the mount of olives.He will return to resurrect their bodies,and they will see him descend in mirror image to his ascension 2000 yrs before.After ward he will rain his judgement on the wicked,and set up his eternal kingdom.

THE RAPTURE COULD BE TODAY - Get right with the Lord while you are still blessed with a little time.

Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Basically I think that there is only one correct answer to as to when it will happen and that is... today. Please Note that there are two classes of the blessed. Class I Those who are dead in Christ. Class II Those who are alive in Christ.

Now someone who is in Class I was obviously at some time in the past a member of Class II. Non of us can guarantee that we will still be drawing breath at this time tomorrow. So this is not a matter that you can comfortably "put off". As is the common human tendency when faced with a decision. In fact putting it off is a decision in and of it's self. You might be blessed with a little more time, but don't count on it. The risks and consequences of dying in your sins are just to great. All of us are skating on thin ice.



1Th 4:13 ¶ But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Here is an interesting Chick illustrated tract on this very important subject.WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com]

1.Yes God has always protected and provided for his elect in the mist of any judgement, never has he removed them from the earth to protect them.

2.the same way petra is a place jewish remnant will flee too I have places have been provided by God across the world.

Just hold your breath OP, Jesus will be here to pick you up in his limo before the suffering starts cuz only you and those that believe as you do should be spared.

ReligiTards are the sand in GLP's Vaseline.

OP, if we have Gods spirit, then we are given wisdom from above.

If we have Gods Spirit, we have everything we need in this life and in the next.

This topic is contentious and stirs up contention and strife among people.

Whether a man knows or believes in this doctrine does not preclude him from having his lamp filled with oil and doing the work of the master.

Love God with all your heart.
Love your neighbor as yourself.

Have your lamp filled with oil and burning bright when the master comes.

5 of the 10 virgins were found with full lamps when the groom returned. 5 went with Him.

May you be 1 of the 5.

God bless.

peace,

Nope the rapture CAN'T be today,because there is still much to fulfill before hand.

And enough of people using the 'as a thief in the night' argument to somehow in their minds 'prove' that this means pre trib rapture.It simply doesn't...

the world will be under such delusion during the tribulation will never see the signs unfolding before them.Thus he will still be coming as a thief whether it be mid or post trib rapture

None of this bears the slightest resemblance to anything I have ever thought or think.

What do you insist it is me?

Wow. Such hostility.

Chip, who do you say Jesus Christ is?

Chip, please tell me about your faith in Jesus Christ.

Please explain your idea of what a true relationship with Jesus Christ is all about

and why you deny my Faith?

"always condemn"? "absolutely condemn"? "consistent response"?

I don't know what people you hang around or listen to, but your choice of words is over the top.

I know that Jesus is coming back, but a lot of very bad things are going to happen before he does and I don't think that will be before the first several seals are opened. I don't believe I will be spared from Satan and man's evil any more than any other time in history when Christians were persecuted. Just because I disagree with a pre-trib rapture doesn't mean I condemn you for it. We just disagree.

why do Christians condem pretrib, midtrib, postrib or just any other person whose beliefs aren't identical to theirs?

Religion is a scam and a hoax.

Wake up!

Chew on this you foolish worldly heathen;


Take a closer look:

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Notice how it specifies which tribulation period since there is more than one. The one we are in NOW and have been in for about 2000 years which will end with the rapture (soon), and the one AFTER the 1000 year "great tribulation" period which will end with the final return of Jesus to the earth; where he metaphorically rides a white horse (great power and authority). So "those days" refer to which tribulation?

I am sure there is some jaw dropping now from both camps after reading what I wrote. Which is why I warn people that it a useless debate.

Of course there is a great harvest during the tribulation. There are many who will believe ONLY because it is fulfilled before their eyes. They populate the Millennial Kingdom. I don't disagree.

Yet you rage.. for some reason...

Christian despising Christian because of different beliefs.

That is Man. Not the Spirit. That is denominations.

OP, you are absolutely right & I'm sorry (because I have done this)...I need to work on that inside myself.

I am catholic & I don't believe in the rapture...but that doesn't mean I have to mock your beliefs.

In an attempt to answer your question...I guess I find the idea of the rapture "silly".

Jesus suffered, Moses suffered, Noah, Adam & Eve, Certainly Job suffered...yet the best of us wont have to suffer?

That just doesn't add up in my mind.

If there really is such a thing as the rapture, would guess a quick-massive die off (like a nuclear exchange) where all those spirits who have just died in a flash, meet Jesus in the air.

OP, thanks for pointing this out, because I do this in other areas of my life as well...and I always like working to improve myself!

(Post tribber struts off with air of false triumph)

It's weird. Both views can and do cite the same verses to make their points. So there is obviously clear scriptural disagreement. Yet, it is always one side that quotes scripture thinking it makes their case and declares the ignorance of the other, rather than ever even admitting the possibility of allowing for legitimate, sincere, well-intentioned, well-informed disagreement.

Nope. Impossible. Insult and attack them and assert superiority. Always.

Jesus had no concern for the country he was in.

Joh_18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Parroted like a good little lemming straight from the NWO playbook.Rest assured the militant atheists and other God haters that currently mock Christians,Christ,and the bible will not always be so.

Before long you'll openly embrace the global 'mystery babylon' spiritual movement,and the minions of the devil that push it.Eventually your kind will bow directly down to the man of sin,and call him God.

Atheism will cease to exist.This will happen because those that reject Christ will be sent a strong delusion,where they will believe the lie.

Same reason Muslims mass murder other Muslims; for not participating in the Grand Delusion "the right way".

If you are weak enough to led into 'belief', you will easily be led into judging those who don't believe exactly as you do.

Self Righteous Judgement is the hallmark of all Religious Fanatics.

Put your money where your mouth is.
Prove pre trib rapture through the bible.
not what some pastor or bible commentary's interpretation of it was.

I don't believe in a rapture of any kind; I don't condemn those who do. I know what you believe it; I see why you think so. The Bible doesn't teach it--Darby did. He took it to the Queen of England; she liked it--gave it her approval.

I think..you're exaggerating to say folks are "condemning" you for your beliefs. Most people..probably don't care one way or the other.

Because you are too stupid to shut the fuck up.

Speaking of Deluded Fanatics...

People like this are Very Dangerous.

(think Christian Jihadis)

That's really dumb.

If it's true, we do nothing, we are taken.

If we have to, we have to, of course... but are we supposed to want to stay and suffer and hope to somehow endure the Wrath of God according to you?!

You are pretty close to being on track. Consider the following scenario.

1. Evil people concoct deadly diseases and spread them all over the world.

2. The rapture occurs and there are mass deaths simultaneously all over the world. People souls and spirits leave their bodies and the bodies are left on the earth:

Luk 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

As you can see the bodies will be left wherever the soul left them.

3. Instead of reported rapture it is reported of mass deaths due to EBOLA or some other dreaded diseases just like it.

I can guarantee you that even though it will be the rapture it will not be called rapture. Be aware that many people thought that at the rapture that the bodies would disappear and would not be left which will also confuse many.

I did not know about this. I know that I have a friend who DOES believe in the rapture before tribulation. When I told her I'm on the fence about that, there was complete, dead silence, soooo... I will see Jesus when I see Jesus.

Oh yes, she said also that He will come for those looking for him to come. Okay. I got that message she was sending there - inferring that because I don't believe the way she does, that oh poor you, He's not coming for YOU.

Truth is, I don't know when He's coming. My Bible tells me I am not to know "when" and that's good enough for me. God knows whether I'm looking for him or not.

I don't need someone telling me that I'm not going to be with Jesus because I don't believe in the pre trib rapture. That sort of 'theology' makes me vomit in my mouth. It's called a religious spirit and I want no part of it.

I prefer to keep it very simple. My relationship with Jesus is intimate and private. I have prayed and He has answered me, shown me so many things and healed me and delivered me, so for those people who are known as 'skeptics', your words do not matter. I have already entered into that 'secret place' and no one, ever can take that away from me. It's so private and special and just all mine.

So you self-righteously judge them...

"...But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up..."

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