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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66147044 Croatia 12/17/2014 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHAT panic? Oh like black fucking Friday in Merika, that kind of panic, yes but poor Merikans don't buy Mercedes or Lexus for CASH Car dealers are speaking of a “boom” since November - high end brands are being bought off the lot, for cash. Mercedes-Benz and Lexus being the most widely reported purcahses. “As soon as euro started rising, we sold all cars, even the most expensive,” says a BMW sales rep in Barnaul, southern Russia. AltaiEuroMotors, official Volkswagen dealer in Barnaul, reported Tuesday “only several cars” were left in the shop. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18951364 United Kingdom 12/17/2014 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is no panic in Russia.....if you get paid in rouble's and buy in rouble's what fooken difference does it make to 99% of the population for everyday life? nothing..... they have enough resources to build a wall around their coninent sized country and not talk to any outsiders for 500 years ffs.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66148246 United Kingdom 12/17/2014 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only way out for a nation in Russia's situation is surrender or war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18067074 Which do you think the Russians will choose? I know what we would do and it isn't throwing in the towel. Surrender to who? The difference to the average Russian with a mortgage will be what at 17%? I remember mine hitting 18% in the 90s, and how I only managed to keep the roof over my head by luck as all my capital was eaten up by mortgage payments.. that's why my number one priority has been paying down my mortgage the past 10 years. I can now calculate even at 18% interest I won't lose my house. In Canada you have to refinance every 3-5 years (normally, not always) which means interest hikes have a quick impact on everyone. Always been mine but divorce has meant a start again, but the number 1 priority is pay this down ASAP... at these rates a lot of people are going to lose their homes and be angry.. how that anger is managed/directed is going to be telling.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56086945 United States 12/17/2014 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmm... sounds like a tennis match. Or a game of chess. Seems they always waiting on each other to make the next move... -- White House braces for Putin's next move (snip) Russia's collapsing economy and currency make Vladimir Putin even more dangerous and unpredictable, Obama administration officials believe. Putin, the Russian president, "has been playing by his own set of rules so far,” said one senior administration official. “It’s up to him to listen to reason, as it has been for months now.” [link to www.washingtonexaminer.com] . |
Carnac The Magnificent User ID: 29440581 United States 12/17/2014 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The thing that should concern most, is that what happens when Russia decides if they can't have "it" no one can? This does not necessarily have to be war but retribution through the financial channels. They may get desperate enough to pull a move that guarantees not only their insolvency but others as well which will ripple around the globe... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60738458 Safe to say that WWIII has started? Have a nice day = GFY. GFY = Go Fuck Yourself. If this offends you then have a nice day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66148246 United Kingdom 12/17/2014 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is no panic in Russia.....if you get paid in rouble's and buy in rouble's what fooken difference does it make to 99% of the population for everyday life? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18951364 nothing..... they have enough resources to build a wall around their coninent sized country and not talk to any outsiders for 500 years ffs.... Really? they export raw materials to the EU and import the finished goods in return... Why on earth do you think Putin was so p*ssed off with the Russia oil companies, rather than build Russian refineries they brought ones in the EU instead... FFS that was one stupid move.. If you think the Russian should wall themselves in, then I for one would feel sorry for those trapped on the other side in Russia. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43399815 United States 12/17/2014 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Putin could stabilize all this by getting with Europe and ending this Ukraine "civil" war. Russia only has to denounce the rebellion and stop arming them. Then the West can crush the rebels by supplying and arming Ukraine. Russia gets the sanctions removed. It's even possible that Putin can make some back room deal that includes a little something extra for Russia. Of course Putin will lose a lot of face and nobody will take Russia seriously for a decade. |
Thulsa User ID: 1297609 United States 12/17/2014 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is no panic in Russia.....if you get paid in rouble's and buy in rouble's what fooken difference does it make to 99% of the population for everyday life? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18951364 nothing..... they have enough resources to build a wall around their coninent sized country and not talk to any outsiders for 500 years ffs.... No offense, but you have no idea of what Russia is really like from the inside. Others of us do. Think before you post... There is nothing quite as compelling as a bad idea whose time has come... Thulsa |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60906342 United States 12/17/2014 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But Putin ran circles around the west, he's so fucking smart. Yeah right. Putin screwed them over good with his aggressive chest-pounding. Quoting: Guitar Girl :rant_slow: Nope, the US and Euro banking system just creates it's own problems. The nations that win (survive) will lose the least since everyone is going to lose. Just a matter of how much. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51515291 United States 12/17/2014 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only way out for a nation in Russia's situation is surrender or war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18067074 Which do you think the Russians will choose? I know what we would do and it isn't throwing in the towel. Surrender to who? I wonder this as well. I also wonder what would happen if they announced a large cutback in oil production. Would the price go back up and stabilize the currency? Just a thought.... They don’t have to surrender to anyone. All they have to do is just STOP! Stop the land grabs. Stop threatening to nuke everyone. Stop shooting down planes. Stop threatening to go ballistic if your country doesn’t get it’s way. Goodness knows the US hasn’t got it’s way in countless situations. When Russia parked it’s warships in Cuba, did we put nukes on the tip of Florida and threaten to wipe Cuba off the map if Russia sent another ship there? Have we stated we were going to nuke Venezuela for them working with Russia and china? All we ask is just stop the bull $hit. That is all we ask. Yet that is all it appears Russia and it’s supporters knows how to do is threaten to take everyone to WW3 if they don’t get their way. Russia, Just STFU already. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66147765 Germany 12/17/2014 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a real panic,” said Kirill Rogov, an independent political and economic analyst who is often critical of the Putin administration. “The ruble is being devalued by 5 or 6 percent every day, and nobody knows how to stop it.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42437486 The crisis has been driven by a sharp decline in the price of oil, the country’s main export, investors’ loss of confidence in the government, and a confrontational foreign policy that yielded Western sanctions after the Ukraine crisis — factors that analysts said were unlikely to change soon. [link to www.dallasnews.com] Why does Putin appear powerless and helpless these one or two days ? Why are the other BRICS countries silent, why dont they publicly express solidarity with Putin and the Russian people in their heroic struggle against the jewish banksters and anglo-american imperialists ? This is a struggle the Russian and BRICS side must win. |
Resister User ID: 36421936 United States 12/17/2014 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a snip from the OP's link that really makes it easy to understand what is happening to the average person in Russia right now. "Young urban professionals in Moscow earn roughly 80,000 rubles a month on average. Before the crisis, that was worth $2,500, plenty of money for them to meet basic living expenses and enough to still spend free time in Europe. As of Tuesday, those salaries had dwindled to around $1,000." [link to www.dallasnews.com] Imagine having your income slashed by more than half. I feel bad for the Russian citizens. It is governments and banks that do this to people. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
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Chibs User ID: 61326344 United States 12/17/2014 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a snip from the OP's link that really makes it easy to understand what is happening to the average person in Russia right now. Quoting: Resister "Young urban professionals in Moscow earn roughly 80,000 rubles a month on average. Before the crisis, that was worth $2,500, plenty of money for them to meet basic living expenses and enough to still spend free time in Europe. As of Tuesday, those salaries had dwindled to around $1,000." [link to www.dallasnews.com] Imagine having your income slashed by more than half. I feel bad for the Russian citizens. It is governments and banks that do this to people. Which is basically the case for every country. The people of all nations just want to live and support their families. All the extra curricular crap comes from the governments and banks “People have only as much liberty as they have the intelligence to want and the courage to take.” - Emma Goldman |
Chibs User ID: 61326344 United States 12/17/2014 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Taking the Crimea and trying to take the Ukraine.... Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry ...isn't working out so good. He did not take Crimea. Crimea joined Russia, the people of Crimea spoke. Now the rest of the world needs to accept it. CRIMEA DOES NOT WANT TO BE PART OF UKRAINE. ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON. lol Yea...I'm sure putin had no hand in that at all. “People have only as much liberty as they have the intelligence to want and the courage to take.” - Emma Goldman |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66147044 Croatia 12/17/2014 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is no panic in Russia.....if you get paid in rouble's and buy in rouble's what fooken difference does it make to 99% of the population for everyday life? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18951364 nothing..... they have enough resources to build a wall around their coninent sized country and not talk to any outsiders for 500 years ffs.... Really? they export raw materials to the EU and import the finished goods in return... Why on earth do you think Putin was so p*ssed off with the Russia oil companies, rather than build Russian refineries they brought ones in the EU instead... FFS that was one stupid move.. If you think the Russian should wall themselves in, then I for one would feel sorry for those trapped on the other side in Russia. Raw like finished rocket engines to the US perhaps Antares rocket will get new Russian RD-181 engines in $1bn deal Russia’s Energomash has reportedly signed a contract with Orbital Sciences Corp. to supply 60 new built RD-181 engines for the Antares rocket instead of the modified Soviet units the company used until an ISS-bound rocket exploded on takeoff in October. Orbital Sciences had no other choice but use Russian designed RD-181 engines |
JustChilling User ID: 62093048 United States 12/17/2014 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is no panic in Russia.....if you get paid in rouble's and buy in rouble's what fooken difference does it make to 99% of the population for everyday life? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18951364 nothing..... they have enough resources to build a wall around their coninent sized country and not talk to any outsiders for 500 years ffs.... They tried that after WWII. They didn't make it past 50 some odd years... Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. -Winston Churchill |
I HAVE QUESTIONS User ID: 65135017 United States 12/17/2014 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is no panic in Russia.....if you get paid in rouble's and buy in rouble's what fooken difference does it make to 99% of the population for everyday life? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18951364 nothing..... they have enough resources to build a wall around their coninent sized country and not talk to any outsiders for 500 years ffs.... do they teach math in the UK? illumination "peanut butter jelly time!! peanut butter jelly time!! peanut butter jelly time!!" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24948545 United States 12/17/2014 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Taking the Crimea and trying to take the Ukraine.... Quoting: Jeffersons Blackberry ...isn't working out so good. He did not take Crimea. Crimea joined Russia, the people of Crimea spoke. Now the rest of the world needs to accept it. CRIMEA DOES NOT WANT TO BE PART OF UKRAINE. ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON. lol Yea...I'm sure putin had no hand in that at all. Well sure. As a country(Russia) why wouldn't they want to increase their resources. Any country would do that. Hell, if Mexico wanted to be part of the US, we would allow it in a heartbeat. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51515291 United States 12/17/2014 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is no panic in Russia.....if you get paid in rouble's and buy in rouble's what fooken difference does it make to 99% of the population for everyday life? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18951364 nothing..... they have enough resources to build a wall around their coninent sized country and not talk to any outsiders for 500 years ffs.... Russia doesn’t grow enough food to even feed themselves. If they walled themselves off, then a good portion of the Russian population would starve to death. |
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