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RelentlessDespot Abrasive Fuck User ID: 62210104 United States 02/09/2015 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43289886 Yet, somehow without fail, someone makes the inclination that it’s bush’s fault. Its Obamas fault. Everything is. It’s not really Obama’s fault either. He just happened to be the unlucky idiot that gets to take that position. Putin was just biding his time waiting for the opportunity to start the ball rolling. Obama just happened to be that opportunity. If it wasn’t for him, it would have been someone else that provided a weak, or weaker front to them to the point that they would have hit the go button. It’s like a common cold is rarely the direct cause of death in older people, but the complications resulting from that cold are. It’s not the cold virus (bad president) that gets you it’s all the other bugs (the real killers) all around you that is just waiting for the opportunity to get at you when your immune system is compromised. Everyone gets a cold now and then, as every country gets a rotten president now and then. The question is what are the true killers waiting in the wings going to do when they see the opportunity present it’s self. When the true killers take advantage of the opportunity presented to it, that is when your body’s (the country’s) defenses are truly tested. It almost instantly becomes a life and death struggle for survival. BULLLLLLLLCRAP! Obama is at the heart of this. Go shill your straw man argument to others as stupid as you. Actually the idea of implanting a missile shield into Ukraine has been publicly discussed for decades. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63811422 United States 02/09/2015 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets see about this potential conflict involving us, US. Personnel. US = 1.5 million in uniform. Russia, 766,000. Aircraft. US 13,500. Russia 4400 Tanks US 8,325 Russia 13,500 Sounds like we are boss on 2 of 4 ground war X factors. What is the 4th? Logistics. No way in hell we have any edge there. Hell, it took us months to respond after 9/11. If you think we have the logistical power to supply a large ground force in eastern Europe rather quickly, you are not well versed in military science. At this time, we are not as big a player in the eastern European arena as we think. Well I guess we are to an extent. We have the bomb. But as far as ground action, the west could not withstand a blitzkrieg type advance by Russians in Ukraine. It's their back yard and we are thousands of miles away. I keep reading folks comments concerning Russia just nuking us if we get involved. Folks, we are much more apt to nuke the Russian's over transgressions in Ukraine if we get involved. All it will take is one successful offensive by the Russians. The only way we can respond is to go the UN and say "stop it" (good luck) or use the only tool at our disposal to quickly neutralize such a distinct threat. A couple of W88's. That being said, arming the Ukrainians is only just egging the Russians on. First you arm them. Then you have to put a couple of advisors on the ground to train them. Next thing you know, a couple get killed and we start mobilizing a little larger force. At that point if I were Putin, I would invade 100% before we are fully mobilized. Put the decision to end life as we know it on the shoulders of the US. If our country is smart we won't commit any move on the board that we cant get out of. This is a chess game. Lets not put ourselves in indefensible positions while trying to put Putin in a check mate situation. |
RelentlessDespot Abrasive Fuck User ID: 62210104 United States 02/09/2015 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: RelentlessDespot He needs to back down....but he may not. This is deliberate. Yeah, has been for decades.. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
Mattrexx User ID: 7624266 Australia 02/09/2015 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a heads up for all my American Pro Putin supporters out there. You really think that if this shit really hits the fan that Putin will welcome you with open arms once he decides to unleash on the states? You don't have the choice of picking a side in this one im afraid. |
nerdrage88sasr User ID: 67783962 Australia 02/09/2015 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lets see about this potential conflict involving us, US. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63811422 Personnel. US = 1.5 million in uniform. Russia, 766,000. Aircraft. US 13,500. Russia 4400 Tanks US 8,325 Russia 13,500 Sounds like we are boss on 2 of 4 ground war X factors. What is the 4th? Logistics. No way in hell we have any edge there. Hell, it took us months to respond after 9/11. If you think we have the logistical power to supply a large ground force in eastern Europe rather quickly, you are not well versed in military science. At this time, we are not as big a player in the eastern European arena as we think. Well I guess we are to an extent. We have the bomb. But as far as ground action, the west could not withstand a blitzkrieg type advance by Russians in Ukraine. It's their back yard and we are thousands of miles away. I keep reading folks comments concerning Russia just nuking us if we get involved. Folks, we are much more apt to nuke the Russian's over transgressions in Ukraine if we get involved. All it will take is one successful offensive by the Russians. The only way we can respond is to go the UN and say "stop it" (good luck) or use the only tool at our disposal to quickly neutralize such a distinct threat. A couple of W88's. That being said, arming the Ukrainians is only just egging the Russians on. First you arm them. Then you have to put a couple of advisors on the ground to train them. Next thing you know, a couple get killed and we start mobilizing a little larger force. At that point if I were Putin, I would invade 100% before we are fully mobilized. Put the decision to end life as we know it on the shoulders of the US. If our country is smart we won't commit any move on the board that we cant get out of. This is a chess game. Lets not put ourselves in indefensible positions while trying to put Putin in a check mate situation. "Luck is what happens when preparation meets Oppurtunity"-- Seneca (5BC-65AD) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67731673 United Kingdom 02/09/2015 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WW3 is coing JUST as the Holy Bible said it would .Those that mock Jesus better get good with Him soon. Of course it is, same script writers in both plays, PTB are playing out Revelations. That's not to say I don't believe in a creator, I do and that's coming from someone who was a 50+ year atheist |
Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 02/09/2015 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: RelentlessDespot He needs to back down....but he may not. This is deliberate. Yeah, has been for decades.. This was a push by NATO...probably prompted by Obama....but yes it did start with Bush in Ukraine. Ukraine was too close to the former USSR block to become part of NATO.....a bridge too far. Bush knew when to back off though....Obama seems to be looking for a war. One more crisis for the USA....as if he hasn't created enough of them already. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 02/09/2015 07:28 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63034783 United States 02/09/2015 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a heads up for all my American Pro Putin supporters out there. You really think that if this shit really hits the fan that Putin will welcome you with open arms once he decides to unleash on the states? You don't have the choice of picking a side in this one im afraid. russia will liberate western nations from their zionist occupation governments ( ZOG ) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67706433 United States 02/09/2015 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67706433 I hope they do. This fight has been a long time coming. It's time to back hand slap Russia across it's fucking face, spit in it's face, rub it's face in the mid while we stand on their backs and declare victory. Russia has done this to themselves and the response is more than justified. Yeah. Gotta make the world safe for gay pride parades. I would take western gay pride over Russian mass rape, mass murder communism, any day of the week mass murder and mass rape is happening all over ur country...idiot Not by our own government and soldiers, idiot. STFU |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67424869 United States 02/09/2015 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember Sesame Street in the 70's ...... "One of these kids is doing his own thing, one of these kids just doesn't belong" Well... Who is the new kid on the geopolitical scene here ? and we are asking why this is happening now ? Now.. Remember Obama in 2008 ...... "Fundamentally Transform American" Wake the fuk up dimwits ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67706433 United States 02/09/2015 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a heads up for all my American Pro Putin supporters out there. You really think that if this shit really hits the fan that Putin will welcome you with open arms once he decides to unleash on the states? You don't have the choice of picking a side in this one im afraid. russia will liberate western nations from their zionist occupation governments ( ZOG ) Russia cant even liberate themselves. Fuck out of here with that bullshit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67622310 United Kingdom 02/09/2015 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would take western gay pride over Russian mass rape, mass murder communism, any day of the week mass murder and mass rape is happening all over ur country...idiot Not by our own government and soldiers, idiot. STFU I suggest you go do some home work.........idiot |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46932014 United States 02/09/2015 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would take western gay pride over Russian mass rape, mass murder communism, any day of the week mass murder and mass rape is happening all over ur country...idiot Not by our own government and soldiers, idiot. STFU I wouldn't be so sure about that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67622310 United Kingdom 02/09/2015 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a heads up for all my American Pro Putin supporters out there. You really think that if this shit really hits the fan that Putin will welcome you with open arms once he decides to unleash on the states? You don't have the choice of picking a side in this one im afraid. unless you move to Russia.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67366602 United States 02/09/2015 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol. You're on a conspiracy forum, not the Huffington Post. Most posters around here know 10X as much history than you. The Bolshevik, Communist Soviet Union was overthrown and replaced by Orthodox Christian Russia some time ago. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12829349 If you need an analogy, this would be similar to Obama Communists being overthrown by the Tea Party. That’s what the Russian propagandist want you to believe. The russian psyc warfare people believe they can gain public support by taking up the Christian cross purely for military and political gain. It’s the same old beast in a disguise. That is why all the old prophecy people called it the Anti Christ, or “Fake Christ” The entity that would try to take up support of Christianity in gods name strictly for their own gain. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67877045 Canada 02/09/2015 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hope they do. This fight has been a long time coming. It's time to back hand slap Russia across it's fucking face, spit in it's face, rub it's face in the mid while we stand on their backs and declare victory. Russia has done this to themselves and the response is more than justified. Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound ? Ukraine was once a part of Russia. There are tens of thousands of Russians still living there. Those Russians voted NOT to be a part of the "puppet" government installed by.... guess who.... These people are depending on Russia to protect them from the slime-balls who are killing them !! Get a grip. Putin isn't taking anything that he isn't entitled to - He's been ASKED for his help... otherwise, the illegitimate Ukraine government (with USA and NATO's approval) will kill every ethnic Russian in Ukraine. Two more things to consider... Russia has a port that it's been trying to protect.... and also, Russia does NOT want NATO on its border, because NATO has been out to destroy Russia since its inception. Please put yourself in Putin's shoes... what would YOU do if you were him ? ukraine was never EVER part of russia. it was a part of the soviet union. the soviet union was not a country. it was a web of communist control that ruled over about 9 or more countries with an iron fist ... these countries never belonged to russia but were rather held captive by the criminals that were KGB from russia. you people who think the soviet union was a country make me laugh. absolutely no brains. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67622310 United Kingdom 02/09/2015 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67706433 I would take western gay pride over Russian mass rape, mass murder communism, any day of the week mass murder and mass rape is happening all over ur country...idiot Not by our own government and soldiers, idiot. STFU I wouldn't be so sure about that. at least someone knows this^^^ |
RelentlessDespot Abrasive Fuck User ID: 62210104 United States 02/09/2015 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, has been for decades.. This was a push by NATO...probably prompted by Obama....but yes it did start with Bush in Ukraine. Ukraine was too close to the former USSR block to become part of NATO.....a bridge too far. Bush knew when to back off though....Obama seems to be looking for a war. One more crisis for the USA....as if he hasn't created enough of them already. Not sure but I think I remember hearing about it as far back as Clinton.. Could be wrong but sure it's known by those who pay attention that this is a decades long plan to keep Russia from ever being able to deliver a first strike capability. I don't blame this on idiot Bammy or idiot Bush.. or even idiot Clinton.. I blame it on those who control them. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me. Or something |
Mattrexx User ID: 7624266 Australia 02/09/2015 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a heads up for all my American Pro Putin supporters out there. You really think that if this shit really hits the fan that Putin will welcome you with open arms once he decides to unleash on the states? You don't have the choice of picking a side in this one im afraid. russia will liberate western nations from their zionist occupation governments ( ZOG ) Fuck me, the Tard is strong with this one...... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67731673 United Kingdom 02/09/2015 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would take western gay pride over Russian mass rape, mass murder communism, any day of the week mass murder and mass rape is happening all over ur country...idiot Not by our own government and soldiers, idiot. STFU Not your Gubberment tho are they? they belong to the Elite, your boys all got fired by your Potus |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64456080 United States 02/09/2015 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone seen this little gem. Quoting: Nos 67462612 DON'T_USE_THIS.com/l365w5z Putin is not fucking about. of course he is not fooling around. he is a murderer. do you really need to ask yourself if a murderer is actually bluffing about whether he will kill millions of people & babies with nuclear radiation ?? LOL low iq - or shill please refrain from posting - because you are whats wrong in the world |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65916119 United States 02/09/2015 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would take western gay pride over Russian mass rape, mass murder communism, any day of the week mass murder and mass rape is happening all over ur country...idiot Read this, Russian shill! Estimates of the numbers of German women raped by Soviet soldiers have ranged up to 2 million. According to historian William Hitchcock, in many cases women were the victims of repeated rapes, some as many as 60 to 70 times.[12] At least 100,000 women are believed to have been raped in Berlin, based on surging abortion rates in the following months and contemporary hospital reports,[9] with an estimated 10,000 women dying in the aftermath.[13] Female deaths in connection with the rapes in Germany, overall, are estimated at 240,000. [link to en.wikipedia.org] There were very few rapes in Dresden. Being as how they were all dead & all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22609467 United States 02/09/2015 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Under normal circumstances would be smart to call his bluff and arm Ukraine to the teeth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66319610 Force him to stop where he is and go back and take care of Russia and leave the rest of the world alone. Problem is we are dealing with an insane man, total psycho, batshit crazy. He could do anything and is nuts enough to start a global nuclear war. Not a pretty picture. I thought we were talking about Putin, not O'Bummer and Bibi Nut-head. Maybe the U.S. should invade Canada? So its OK for Russia to invade Ukraine and the world do nothing about it? You guys got a lot of good timber up there and gold deposits, maybe we can just put together an invasion force and take it. My point was that Putin is crazy, totally and completely. Hopefully someone in Russia will realize that and stop him before he incinerates the world. Putin is just a pawn. If he doesn't start a war, then the next Russian president will... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 66779225 United States 02/09/2015 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it interesting how more footage of "mushroom cloud" like explosions being shown more and more Like the the picture of a mushroom cloud being imprinted into our minds Interesting times I still don't think any MAJOR doom happens until 2022 or maybe its 2/22/15? Or 2/22/22 11/11/22 12/22/22 3/22/22 These are my dates for the year 2022 Maybe Im wrong but I doubt it. For those seeing 11:11 Look up "Qatar 2022" aka Fifa World Cup Look at the logo, and read the article and notice the synchronicity This is why I strongly believe 2022 is the year when the "doom" goes down |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12829349 United States 02/09/2015 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just a heads up for all my American Pro Putin supporters out there. You really think that if this shit really hits the fan that Putin will welcome you with open arms once he decides to unleash on the states? You don't have the choice of picking a side in this one im afraid. russia will liberate western nations from their zionist occupation governments ( ZOG ) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67706433 United States 02/09/2015 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67706433 I would take western gay pride over Russian mass rape, mass murder communism, any day of the week mass murder and mass rape is happening all over ur country...idiot Not by our own government and soldiers, idiot. STFU I suggest you go do some home work.........idiot Don't have to shill. US soldiers aren't murdering people in the streets because they protest against the government. They aren't being arrested for speaking out against Obama and the government, and sentenced to 10 years on trumped up charges. Their family members aren't being arrested. The US admits their failures of the past. Does Russia acknowledge the millions of people they raped and murdered across Europe during WW2? No! To this day they swear it never happened They swear it's a lie spread by the western nations. There's a reason most of the Baltic nations, hell most of the world in general, has a strong disliking of Russia. They know what really happened and what living under Russian rule was really like. They will never go back to that piece of shit way of life. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67877045 Canada 02/09/2015 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone seen this little gem. Quoting: Nos 67462612 DON'T_USE_THIS.com/l365w5z Putin is not fucking about. of course he is not fooling around. he is a murderer. do you really need to ask yourself if a murderer is actually bluffing about whether he will kill millions of people & babies with nuclear radiation ?? LOL low iq - or shill please refrain from posting - because you are whats wrong in the world its ok we know who you are. you are on our invalid list. |