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The helical model - our solar system is a vortex

 
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I am sure this has been posted.

Worth a repeat in case anyone missed how we move in Space.

It is beautiful.
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Super!!!
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It kind of helps give a more intuitive understanding of gravity by watching this. I can visualize the "gravitational well" that the planets are in, around the Sun.

One small detail - the plane of orbit it not exactly perpendicular to the Sun's direction of travel, as pictured in the video. But regardless, it's a fascinating visual.

If you could see time as a 4th dimension it would look like that trail I bet.
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I am sure this has been posted.

Worth a repeat in case anyone missed how we move in Space.

It is beautiful.
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if that is the video I think it is - very beautiful! thanks!
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Fantastic post OP.
I liked the music with that clip too.
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Re: The helical model - our solar system is a vortex
Cool vid and reasonably accurate depiction. However, this is not limited to solar systems alone. It applies to the smallest of things, like quark and electron orbits, to the largest of things, like solar systems, galaxies and universes.
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Re: The helical model - our solar system is a vortex
It kind of helps give a more intuitive understanding of gravity by watching this. I can visualize the "gravitational well" that the planets are in, around the Sun.

One small detail - the plane of orbit it not exactly perpendicular to the Sun's direction of travel, as pictured in the video. But regardless, it's a fascinating visual.

If you could see time as a 4th dimension it would look like that trail I bet.
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Sweet perspective, thank you!!!!

Love how you included Time.
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Re: The helical model - our solar system is a vortex
Cool vid and reasonably accurate depiction. However, this is not limited to solar systems alone. It applies to the smallest of things, like quark and electron orbits, to the largest of things, like solar systems, galaxies and universes.
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I was thinking that too...in a way. Glad you confirmed it.
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Nice!!! Thank you!!!
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Don't you know OP? The Earth is FLAT! Gravity isn't real! Flat Earth is all the rage on GLP now!
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Re: The helical model - our solar system is a vortex
Cool vid and reasonably accurate depiction. However, this is not limited to solar systems alone. It applies to the smallest of things, like quark and electron orbits, to the largest of things, like solar systems, galaxies and universes.
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I was thinking that too...in a way. Glad you confirmed it.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


Thanks. Interestingly, this pattern when graphed in two dimensional form utilizing time and motion coordinates produces a waveform pattern and frequency. The delicate orchestration of the harmony of the universe and the symphony of the atom.
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Re: The helical model - our solar system is a vortex
Would this model imply that the solar system is travelling through a spiral arm of the galaxy toward the galactic center?

It's certainly an interesting idea.
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Would this model imply that the solar system is travelling through a spiral arm of the galaxy toward the galactic center?

It's certainly an interesting idea.
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Also happens to be completely incorrect lol.
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I am sure this has been posted.

Worth a repeat in case anyone missed how we move in Space.

It is beautiful.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


You're right it has, it is.

:)
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Erm, astro-physicists,

is there any evidence of this vertical stream of 'ions' or whatever that 'comet tail' represents, rising from the sun perpendicular to the solar plain?

And isn't this a 'body moving through a charged ionic medium' or Electric Circuit?
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Re: The helical model - our solar system is a vortex
Cool vid and reasonably accurate depiction. However, this is not limited to solar systems alone. It applies to the smallest of things, like quark and electron orbits, to the largest of things, like solar systems, galaxies and universes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56171337


I was thinking that too...in a way. Glad you confirmed it.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


Thanks. Interestingly, this pattern when graphed in two dimensional form utilizing time and motion coordinates produces a waveform pattern and frequency. The delicate orchestration of the harmony of the universe and the symphony of the atom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56171337


I like the way you mixed science and poetry there.

What is the frequency?
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Re: The helical model - our solar system is a vortex
Erm, astro-physicists,

is there any evidence of this vertical stream of 'ions' or whatever that 'comet tail' represents, rising from the sun perpendicular to the solar plain?

And isn't this a 'body moving through a charged ionic medium' or Electric Circuit?
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Electric Universe Perhaps?
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Re: The helical model - our solar system is a vortex
Erm, astro-physicists,

is there any evidence of this vertical stream of 'ions' or whatever that 'comet tail' represents, rising from the sun perpendicular to the solar plain?

And isn't this a 'body moving through a charged ionic medium' or Electric Circuit?
 Quoting: Free Planet 2015 27053848


Electric Universe Perhaps?
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


Well... :)
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I am sure this has been posted.

Worth a repeat in case anyone missed how we move in Space.

It is beautiful.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


one day you maybe ready for this

Thread: Why we have never been able to send a probe to the Sun...and never will
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Re: The helical model - our solar system is a vortex



I am sure this has been posted.

Worth a repeat in case anyone missed how we move in Space.

It is beautiful.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


one day you maybe ready for this

Thread: Why we have never been able to send a probe to the Sun...and never will
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Interesting...nothing should ever be totally discounted.

It would be cool to experience.

Portal?
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Re: The helical model - our solar system is a vortex
It's good to re-watch these videos sometimes. I'm amazed at how much more I understand a subject after some time of pondering.

Thank you OP.
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Re: The helical model - our solar system is a vortex
It's good to re-watch these videos sometimes. I'm amazed at how much more I understand a subject after some time of pondering.

Thank you OP.
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My Pleasure.....love this stuff.
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Re: The helical model - our solar system is a vortex
VORTEX HAS FLOW

ROTATION IS JUST STANDING IN A CIRCLE SPINNING

THIS IS PART OF THE MIND CONTROL, INTELLECTUAL DUMBING DOWN OF SOCIETY

I TRIED TO TELL MY TEACHER THIS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND SHE ALMOST SHAT HERSELF
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Re: The helical model - our solar system is a vortex
awesome thread
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pin it


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Re: The helical model - our solar system is a vortex
Super cool.. but where are we going???
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bumpbumpbutthurt9 Dedicated to Balltards who don't know how the fuck the model they froth over even works.
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Re: The helical model - our solar system is a vortex
That is not how we move in space. The planets do not trail the sun in a vortex and the solar system's velocity vector is not perpendicular to the ecliptic plane.
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Re: The helical model - our solar system is a vortex

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Nice!!! Thank you!!!
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It's wrong and misinformation.
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This is a really good representation of how our solar system moves
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this one is better



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It's wrong. The solar system is not a "vortex." Planets do not trail behind the sun as it travels through the galaxy the way that model describes (best seen at the start of his follow-up video: [link to www.youtube.com] ). The solar apex, our solar system's direction of travel relative to the local stars, projected onto the sky has the coordinates of aboutstock crap RA, +30 degrees Dec ( [link to books.google.com] ) whereas our north ecliptic pole has coordinates of aboutstock crap RA, +66.5 degrees Dec.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Even if you consider the motion of the local standard of rest within the arms of our galaxy ( [link to www.gb.nrao.edu] ) we are still not moving towards the ecliptic pole and we are still ahead of our sun at certain times of the year. In the latter case the vector of our direction of travel points to about 20h 57m, +47d 53' which is separated from our ecliptic pole by about 30 degrees and places us ahead of the sun relative to its direction of travel in August, whereas in the former reference frame we're ahead of the sun when the sun's position along the ecliptic in our sky is at 6hr RA at the June solstice.

The "helical" model is in direct contradiction to simple empirical evidence. Were it true, Newcomb's own data and calculations on the position of the sun as seen from earth would not work.
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