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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68237298 United States 03/02/2015 01:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It kind of helps give a more intuitive understanding of gravity by watching this. I can visualize the "gravitational well" that the planets are in, around the Sun. One small detail - the plane of orbit it not exactly perpendicular to the Sun's direction of travel, as pictured in the video. But regardless, it's a fascinating visual. If you could see time as a 4th dimension it would look like that trail I bet. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 68412190 United States 03/02/2015 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It kind of helps give a more intuitive understanding of gravity by watching this. I can visualize the "gravitational well" that the planets are in, around the Sun. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68237298 One small detail - the plane of orbit it not exactly perpendicular to the Sun's direction of travel, as pictured in the video. But regardless, it's a fascinating visual. If you could see time as a 4th dimension it would look like that trail I bet. Sweet perspective, thank you!!!! Love how you included Time. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 68412190 United States 03/02/2015 01:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cool vid and reasonably accurate depiction. However, this is not limited to solar systems alone. It applies to the smallest of things, like quark and electron orbits, to the largest of things, like solar systems, galaxies and universes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56171337 I was thinking that too...in a way. Glad you confirmed it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56171337 United States 03/02/2015 02:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cool vid and reasonably accurate depiction. However, this is not limited to solar systems alone. It applies to the smallest of things, like quark and electron orbits, to the largest of things, like solar systems, galaxies and universes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56171337 I was thinking that too...in a way. Glad you confirmed it. Thanks. Interestingly, this pattern when graphed in two dimensional form utilizing time and motion coordinates produces a waveform pattern and frequency. The delicate orchestration of the harmony of the universe and the symphony of the atom. |
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Free Planet 2015 User ID: 27053848 United Kingdom 03/02/2015 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | is there any evidence of this vertical stream of 'ions' or whatever that 'comet tail' represents, rising from the sun perpendicular to the solar plain? And isn't this a 'body moving through a charged ionic medium' or Electric Circuit? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 68412190 United States 03/02/2015 02:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cool vid and reasonably accurate depiction. However, this is not limited to solar systems alone. It applies to the smallest of things, like quark and electron orbits, to the largest of things, like solar systems, galaxies and universes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56171337 I was thinking that too...in a way. Glad you confirmed it. Thanks. Interestingly, this pattern when graphed in two dimensional form utilizing time and motion coordinates produces a waveform pattern and frequency. The delicate orchestration of the harmony of the universe and the symphony of the atom. I like the way you mixed science and poetry there. What is the frequency? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 68412190 United States 03/02/2015 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Erm, astro-physicists, Quoting: Free Planet 2015 27053848 is there any evidence of this vertical stream of 'ions' or whatever that 'comet tail' represents, rising from the sun perpendicular to the solar plain? And isn't this a 'body moving through a charged ionic medium' or Electric Circuit? Electric Universe Perhaps? |
Free Planet 2015 User ID: 27053848 United Kingdom 03/02/2015 03:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Erm, astro-physicists, Quoting: Free Planet 2015 27053848 is there any evidence of this vertical stream of 'ions' or whatever that 'comet tail' represents, rising from the sun perpendicular to the solar plain? And isn't this a 'body moving through a charged ionic medium' or Electric Circuit? Electric Universe Perhaps? Well... :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68419581 United Kingdom 03/02/2015 03:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am sure this has been posted. Worth a repeat in case anyone missed how we move in Space. It is beautiful. one day you maybe ready for this Thread: Why we have never been able to send a probe to the Sun...and never will |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68456993 United States 03/02/2015 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am sure this has been posted. Worth a repeat in case anyone missed how we move in Space. It is beautiful. one day you maybe ready for this Thread: Why we have never been able to send a probe to the Sun...and never will Interesting...nothing should ever be totally discounted. It would be cool to experience. Portal? |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 70747304 United States 11/23/2015 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's wrong and misinformation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39510024 It's wrong. The solar system is not a "vortex." Planets do not trail behind the sun as it travels through the galaxy the way that model describes (best seen at the start of his follow-up video: [link to www.youtube.com] ). The solar apex, our solar system's direction of travel relative to the local stars, projected onto the sky has the coordinates of aboutstock crap RA, +30 degrees Dec ( [link to books.google.com] ) whereas our north ecliptic pole has coordinates of aboutstock crap RA, +66.5 degrees Dec. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Even if you consider the motion of the local standard of rest within the arms of our galaxy ( [link to www.gb.nrao.edu] ) we are still not moving towards the ecliptic pole and we are still ahead of our sun at certain times of the year. In the latter case the vector of our direction of travel points to about 20h 57m, +47d 53' which is separated from our ecliptic pole by about 30 degrees and places us ahead of the sun relative to its direction of travel in August, whereas in the former reference frame we're ahead of the sun when the sun's position along the ecliptic in our sky is at 6hr RA at the June solstice. The "helical" model is in direct contradiction to simple empirical evidence. Were it true, Newcomb's own data and calculations on the position of the sun as seen from earth would not work. Last Edited by Astromut on 11/23/2015 12:31 AM |