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Alan Watts on How to Fake Your Way as a Spiritual Teacher

 
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Alan Watts on How to Fake Your Way as a Spiritual Teacher
I have often thought of writing a novel, similar to Thomas Mann’s “Confessions of Felix Krull,” which would be the life story of a charlatan making out as a master guru – either initiated in Tibet or appearing as the reincarnation of Nagarjuna, Padmasambhava, or some other great historical sage of the Orient. It would be a romantic and glamorous tale, flavored with the scent of pines in Himalayan valleys, with garden courtyards in obscure parts of Alexandria, with mountain temples in Japan, and with secretive meetings and initiations in country houses adjoining Paris, New York, and Los Angeles. It would also raise some rather unexpected philosophical questions as to the relations between genuine mysticism and stage magic. But I have neither the patience nor the skill to be a novelist, and thus can do no more than sketch the idea for some more gifted author.

The attractions of being a trickster guru are many. There is power and there is wealth, and still more the satisfactions of being an actor without need for a stage, who turns “real life” into a drama. It is not, furthermore, an illegal undertaking such as selling shares in non-existent corporations, impersonating a doctor, or falsifying checks. There are no recognized and official qualifications for being a guru, though now that some universities are offering courses in meditation and Kundalini Yoga it may soon be necessary to be a member of the U.S. Fraternity of Gurus. But a really fine trickster would get around all that by the one-upmanship of inventing an entirely new discipline outside and beyond all known forms of esoteric teaching.

It must be understood from the start that the trickster guru fills a real need and performs a genuine public service. Millions of people are searching desperately for a true father-Magician, especially at a time when the clergy and the psychiatrists are making rather a poor show, and do not seem to have the courage of their convictions or of their fantasies. Perhaps they have lost nerve through too high a valuation of the virtue of honesty – as if a painter felt bound to give his landscapes the fidelity of photographs. To fulfil his compassionate vocation, the trickster guru must above all have nerve. He must also be quite well-read in mystical and occult literature, both that which is historically authentic and sound in scholarship, and that which is somewhat questionable – such as the writings of H.P. Blavatsky, P.D. Ouspensky, and Aleister Crowley. It doesn’t do to be caught out on details now known to a wide public.


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Re: Alan Watts on How to Fake Your Way as a Spiritual Teacher
It would be fun, for a time, though bound to make you infinitely cynical about people.

I think the most fun is creating the tiered system of initiates, the inner-circle that's in-the-know, it's a good book if you can write it, can spend a lot of time in that sandbox.
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I have often thought of writing a novel, similar to Thomas Mann’s “Confessions of Felix Krull,” which would be the life story of a charlatan making out as a master guru – either initiated in Tibet or appearing as the reincarnation of Nagarjuna, Padmasambhava, or some other great historical sage of the Orient. It would be a romantic and glamorous tale, flavored with the scent of pines in Himalayan valleys, with garden courtyards in obscure parts of Alexandria, with mountain temples in Japan, and with secretive meetings and initiations in country houses adjoining Paris, New York, and Los Angeles. It would also raise some rather unexpected philosophical questions as to the relations between genuine mysticism and stage magic. But I have neither the patience nor the skill to be a novelist, and thus can do no more than sketch the idea for some more gifted author.

The attractions of being a trickster guru are many. There is power and there is wealth, and still more the satisfactions of being an actor without need for a stage, who turns “real life” into a drama. It is not, furthermore, an illegal undertaking such as selling shares in non-existent corporations, impersonating a doctor, or falsifying checks. There are no recognized and official qualifications for being a guru, though now that some universities are offering courses in meditation and Kundalini Yoga it may soon be necessary to be a member of the U.S. Fraternity of Gurus. But a really fine trickster would get around all that by the one-upmanship of inventing an entirely new discipline outside and beyond all known forms of esoteric teaching.

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i am thinking this as a career but i am too shy and have some morals left
but hell,why not to free the rich of some of their ill gotten wealth
the problem i am facing is i can no longer remember names or faces and i can not remember the excerpts from different books
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It would be high-cost to the would-be guru. I don't think the man behind the curtain really likes himself.

and the energy and time of the recruits would also be wasted.

so be yourself and be a real guru! All of us can do that. We all have abilities we can share.
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1. "It would also raise some rather unexpected philosophical questions as to the relations between genuine mysticism and stage magic."

inventing an entirely new discipline outside and beyond all known forms of esoteric teaching.

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Been done again and again and a rather shallow point it is too. What? Both involve expectations? or both are show biz? Been done.

"inventing an entirely new discipline outside and beyond all known forms of esoteric teaching" Ridiculous. Been tried , doesn't work.

Try "Stranger In A Strange Land", a pretty decent book by a writer.
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It would be high-cost to the would-be guru. I don't think the man behind the curtain really likes himself.

and the energy and time of the recruits would also be wasted.

so be yourself and be a real guru! All of us can do that. We all have abilities we can share.
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sharing guru-ing?

I like that.





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