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BREAKING: Projectile Hit AMTRACK Train Before Derailment. FBI Investigating - Possibly Three Trains Hit.

 
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Great point--maybe he thought it was a railyard worker and therefore just sounded some courtesy horns?

But why would a guy suicide himself standing by a derailer he could have walked away from half an hour prior?
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He probably had just put it down and was moving away from it

And a hack would explain why it suddenly sped up, if camera were in the area they could see if any vehicles or people were close to the track.


And the bright flashes would be from when the train first made contact with the derailer at such high speeds
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You CANT HACK A LEVER.
It's like saying you can hack a shovel or a doormat.
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Dude, you hack the computer not the physical lever guy
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Dude, I've been in the power units of trains.
You have not.
You dont hack a lever.

It's like saying you get down off a horse when you realy get down off a duck.

I pity you and anyone that depends on you because you're a retart/
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Great point--maybe he thought it was a railyard worker and therefore just sounded some courtesy horns?

But why would a guy suicide himself standing by a derailer he could have walked away from half an hour prior?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69203804


He probably had just put it down and was moving away from it

And a hack would explain why it suddenly sped up, if camera were in the area they could see if any vehicles or people were close to the track.


And the bright flashes would be from when the train first made contact with the derailer at such high speeds
 Quoting: leeweezy


You CANT HACK A LEVER.
It's like saying you can hack a shovel or a doormat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69025042


Dude, you hack the computer not the physical lever guy
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ok you understand nothing at all about hacking or computer right ...............
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If that engineer had his window open and or cracked and someone threw a rock and hit him in the head. Well, there you go. Engineer gets knocked out, falls forward, puts it into eighth notch and details.

If I was the engineer, I would stick with that story.
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That would have to be one hell of a shot. To even hit an open window on a train moving 40mph would be hard but to hit him in a way he falls forward (or whatever way necessary) to change speed would be one in a million. He would be much more likely to hit the plethora of buttons or knobs controlling other things like cutting off the fuel, or opening doors opposed to something usually secured and purposefully hard to change control like the throttle.

Whatever has the force and power to get through the window would probably kill him anyway. Surely we arent talking kids with rocks standing next to the tracks. A rock would probably have to hit him from behind to knock him forward and that would mean the kid would have to throw the rock in the same direction the train is moving.
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Everyone's focusing on the Amtrak 601 engineer, but the real person in question (imo) is whoever was engineering the CSX.

Why was he sitting there with lights on?

Why did he disappear, and when, taking at least 10 of the 18 cars with him?

Was he the one who sounded the horn?
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How many of you having been suprised by something while you were driving doubled your speed and went off the road?

I rest my case.
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I'm thinking that he saw someone next to the tracks and that's why the short blast of the horn was heard, and the person put down a derailer on the track and after it derailed took it up and left?
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Great point--maybe he thought it was a railyard worker and therefore just sounded some courtesy horns?

But why would a guy suicide himself standing by a derailer he could have walked away from half an hour prior?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69203804


He probably had just put it down and was moving away from it

And a hack would explain why it suddenly sped up, if camera were in the area they could see if any vehicles or people were close to the track.


And the bright flashes would be from when the train first made contact with the derailer at such high speeds
 Quoting: leeweezy


You CANT HACK A LEVER.
It's like saying you can hack a shovel or a doormat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69025042


Well then how does that positive train controll work? Doesn't it overide the lever?
Never ever, ever, ever give up!!!
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Although I don't believe the gay angle has any bearing, this is most likely the correct series of events. Especially when you add in that something struck the windshields of these 3 trains and the engineers were aware of that fact.

1. Engineers report objects striking windshields in the area.
2. As would anyone, Amtrack driver becomes concerned and distracted.
3. At some point his windshield is struck.
4. In the confusion, Amtrack driver thinking he has cleared curve 2 accelerates train.
5. Realizing the mistake, emergency brakes are applied, most likely entering the curve.
6. Train derailment. Operator error.
7. Supposed memory loss and lawyer up.

Sad deal.
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2a. Driver hits the accelerator AND the floor.
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If that engineer had his window open and or cracked and someone threw a rock and hit him in the head. Well, there you go. Engineer gets knocked out, falls forward, puts it into eighth notch and details.

If I was the engineer, I would stick with that story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39062034


That would have to be one hell of a shot. To even hit an open window on a train moving 40mph would be hard but to hit him in a way he falls forward (or whatever way necessary) to change speed would be one in a million. He would be much more likely to hit the plethora of buttons or knobs controlling other things like cutting off the fuel, or opening doors opposed to something usually secured and purposefully hard to change control like the throttle.

Whatever has the force and power to get through the window would probably kill him anyway. Surely we arent talking kids with rocks standing next to the tracks. A rock would probably have to hit him from behind to knock him forward and that would mean the kid would have to throw the rock in the same direction the train is moving.
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Maybe saboteurs were monitoring the train comms--maybe they expected the engineers to transmit that they were being shot--was this some kind of radio signal, possibly (to trigger something next in the series of events)?

Is 9:25-9:28 p.m. significant for any reason as a choice to pull this off (well, I suppose if they wanted 601 to be right by the derailer?)
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Exactly. I'm sure trains travelling through the war zone that is North Philly are shot at quite frequently.
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But But Zio-Mountain-Woman said it was terrorist who shot big sniper at the train .


Than she use a foxnews link again to back is story . She always use MSM as source .

This only should get a RedFlag goin .


Who you work for MW ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63698888

Quote me where I said a terrorist did this. I am not the only person who uses Fox links on here.
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You didn use the word but you did want ppl to think so . You implied it in your tittle in your post everywhere now you play the i didn said terrorist ?

You are the one with pinned thread about MSM source all the time . In fact your only source are Anita Fuentez and the MSM . Ppl know they are both full of shit .

I suspect you to work for one of them or something gov .

It is pretty obivous you have an agenda here and you are paid for it .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63698888

It is pretty obvious, you are a liar, delusional, jealous, and you must feel very impotent. I can guarantee you ...you are a man...a little one at that. Now it is time to shut up.
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It's insightful regarding how many people here are so danged sure they know what happened on all sides of the issue.

One thing is for sure - we don't know what caused this other than the train was speeding. We don't know why it was speeding.

We don't know if the engineer is a liar or if he truly doesn't recall (which is not uncommon when someone hits their head in an accident.)

Everyone who is so cocksure THEY KNOW should just take a chill pill.
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applause2
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hf
Yes, I did cure my Stage 4 cancer in two weeks when I was 48. I also reversed my chronic kidney disease (glomerulonephritis) when I was 25. In neither case were any medical treatments involved.
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He probably had just put it down and was moving away from it

And a hack would explain why it suddenly sped up, if camera were in the area they could see if any vehicles or people were close to the track.


And the bright flashes would be from when the train first made contact with the derailer at such high speeds
 Quoting: leeweezy


You CANT HACK A LEVER.
It's like saying you can hack a shovel or a doormat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69025042


Dude, you hack the computer not the physical lever guy
 Quoting: leeweezy


Dude, I've been in the power units of trains.
You have not.
You dont hack a lever.

It's like saying you get down off a horse when you realy get down off a duck.

I pity you and anyone that depends on you because you're a retart/
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69025042


So moving the lever doesn't tell the computer to speed it up/slow down? ...no common sense in here
weezy
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MW, what size panties do you wear?
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jeez...
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He probably had just put it down and was moving away from it

And a hack would explain why it suddenly sped up, if camera were in the area they could see if any vehicles or people were close to the track.


And the bright flashes would be from when the train first made contact with the derailer at such high speeds
 Quoting: leeweezy


You CANT HACK A LEVER.
It's like saying you can hack a shovel or a doormat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69025042


Dude, you hack the computer not the physical lever guy
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ok you understand nothing at all about hacking or computer right ...............
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63698888


Right, although next year he starts elementary school.
He must be black or something to be simply parroting words he doesnt understand the implications of.
OOps I just hacked my potatos!!
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I think I need a dose of Amnesia for this fucking Blather of a Thread.
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The engineer is a homo activist, so the MSM is going to bend over backwards to let him off the hook.

I think it has been established that he was traveling more than 100 miles per hour, which was twice the speed limit there. BTW, a projectile could be a missile fired by a terrorist, but it could also be a rock hurled at the train by a bunch of kids, which probably happens all the time.

But because the engineer is an outspoken homo, they are going to try and exonerate him, It really is despicable.
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Tomato Brandon was daydreaming about the gaybar when he put the hammer down, believing he had completed the second curve when actually he had only completed the first. When he realized his error, he slammed on the emergency brake.

Tomato Brandon's failure to regain his memory is fiction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53512507


Although I don't believe the gay angle has any bearing, this is most likely the correct series of events. Especially when you add in that something struck the windshields of these 3 trains and the engineers were aware of that fact.

1. Engineers report objects striking windshields in the area.
2. As would anyone, Amtrack driver becomes concerned and distracted.
3. At some point his windshield is struck.
4. In the confusion, Amtrack driver thinking he has cleared curve 2 accelerates train.
5. Realizing the mistake, emergency brakes are applied, most likely entering the curve.
6. Train derailment. Operator error.
7. Supposed memory loss and lawyer up.

Sad deal.
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Don't forget 4.5: Sounds horn for no reason.
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It's insightful regarding how many people here are so danged sure they know what happened on all sides of the issue.

One thing is for sure - we don't know what caused this other than the train was speeding. We don't know why it was speeding.

We don't know if the engineer is a liar or if he truly doesn't recall (which is not uncommon when someone hits their head in an accident.)

Everyone who is so cocksure THEY KNOW should just take a chill pill.
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applause2
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hf
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You always make the most sense to me.hf
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I just hacked my oven with my computer, just before I hacked my spare tire.
It's a special hacking computer.
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I have to step away for a bit, but look at those aerial photos and ask yourself how a train going "106mph) came to a stop so quickly.
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Maybe saboteurs were monitoring the train comms--maybe they expected the engineers to transmit that they were being shot--was this some kind of radio signal, possibly (to trigger something next in the series of events)?

Is 9:25-9:28 p.m. significant for any reason as a choice to pull this off (well, I suppose if they wanted 601 to be right by the derailer?)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69203804


This could be a terr coordinated attack. Target two trains then the second train drives into the crashed one. Were they on the same track?
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I have to step away for a bit, but look at those aerial photos and ask yourself how a train going "106mph) came to a stop so quickly.
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^^This^^^
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You CANT HACK A LEVER.
It's like saying you can hack a shovel or a doormat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69025042


Dude, you hack the computer not the physical lever guy
 Quoting: leeweezy


Dude, I've been in the power units of trains.
You have not.
You dont hack a lever.

It's like saying you get down off a horse when you realy get down off a duck.

I pity you and anyone that depends on you because you're a retart/
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69025042


So moving the lever doesn't tell the computer to speed it up/slow down? ...no common sense in here
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NO, it's a switch, no computers are involved in applying power from the generator to the wheels.
This is no different than pre computer days. YOu may not know that people got along and had cars and everything, even airplanes and boats that did not have computers on them.
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But But Zio-Mountain-Woman said it was terrorist who shot big sniper at the train .


Than she use a foxnews link again to back is story . She always use MSM as source .

This only should get a RedFlag goin .


Who you work for MW ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63698888

Quote me where I said a terrorist did this. I am not the only person who uses Fox links on here.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


You didn use the word but you did want ppl to think so . You implied it in your tittle in your post everywhere now you play the i didn said terrorist ?

You are the one with pinned thread about MSM source all the time . In fact your only source are Anita Fuentez and the MSM . Ppl know they are both full of shit .

I suspect you to work for one of them or something gov .

It is pretty obivous you have an agenda here and you are paid for it .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63698888

It is pretty obvious, you are a liar, delusional, jealous, and you must feel very impotent. I can guarantee you ...you are a man...a little one at that. Now it is time to shut up.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


See you make my point . It is clear you are a zio-shill .
Next time you try to insult me try to not use the word i said to you earlier like come on ....

gtfo5
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I have to step away for a bit, but look at those aerial photos and ask yourself how a train going "106mph) came to a stop so quickly.
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I have to step away for a bit, but look at those aerial photos and ask yourself how a train going "106mph) came to a stop so quickly.
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anyone dare to ask the FBI this. Or perhaps they are unaware that we are I fact. AWARE
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The engineer is a homo activist, so the MSM is going to bend over backwards to let him off the hook.

I think it has been established that he was traveling more than 100 miles per hour, which was twice the speed limit there. BTW, a projectile could be a missile fired by a terrorist, but it could also be a rock hurled at the train by a bunch of kids, which probably happens all the time.

But because the engineer is an outspoken homo, they are going to try and exonerate him, It really is despicable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69241738


Tomato Brandon was daydreaming about the gaybar when he put the hammer down, believing he had completed the second curve when actually he had only completed the first. When he realized his error, he slammed on the emergency brake.

Tomato Brandon's failure to regain his memory is fiction.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53512507


Although I don't believe the gay angle has any bearing, this is most likely the correct series of events. Especially when you add in that something struck the windshields of these 3 trains and the engineers were aware of that fact.

1. Engineers report objects striking windshields in the area.
2. As would anyone, Amtrack driver becomes concerned and distracted.
3. At some point his windshield is struck.
4. In the confusion, Amtrack driver thinking he has cleared curve 2 accelerates train.
5. Realizing the mistake, emergency brakes are applied, most likely entering the curve.
6. Train derailment. Operator error.
7. Supposed memory loss and lawyer up.

Sad deal.
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Don't forget 4.5: Sounds horn for no reason.
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One long blast is not in list. [link to www.up.com]
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I just hacked my oven with my computer, just before I hacked my spare tire.
It's a special hacking computer.
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Funy i just hacked my toaster and fridg we must have the same computer i think it got some special supa-dupper-power mind control like Charles Manson had .
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I just hacked my oven with my computer, just before I hacked my spare tire.
It's a special hacking computer.
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Funy i just hacked my toaster and fridg we must have the same computer i think it got some special supa-dupper-power mind control like Charles Manson had .
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I hacked my hacking computer and can't do anything.
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Quote me where I said a terrorist did this. I am not the only person who uses Fox links on here.
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You didn use the word but you did want ppl to think so . You implied it in your tittle in your post everywhere now you play the i didn said terrorist ?

You are the one with pinned thread about MSM source all the time . In fact your only source are Anita Fuentez and the MSM . Ppl know they are both full of shit .

I suspect you to work for one of them or something gov .

It is pretty obivous you have an agenda here and you are paid for it .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63698888

It is pretty obvious, you are a liar, delusional, jealous, and you must feel very impotent. I can guarantee you ...you are a man...a little one at that. Now it is time to shut up.
 Quoting: Mountain Woman


See you make my point . It is clear you are a zio-shill .
Next time you try to insult me try to not use the word i said to you earlier like come on ....

gtfo5
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BANNED AND REPORTED
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This is just intentional distraction, pretending that there is any reason besides incompetence to have a train go over 2 times the speed limit in a city full of curves.
You have to be a real fucked in the head morad to think that there is any reason other than the driver fucked up, you'd have to be a real stooge to believe that he cannot remember because he got a cut on his head although he did think clearly enough to shut up and pay for a lawyer to hide behind.
I dont remember, I dont recall I cant think of anything at all.
What's wrong with you people?
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A real man would have owned up to his negligence, asked for forgiveness, and resolved to face whatever punishment is in store.
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There's absolutely zero proof this was the engineer's fault.
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Wrong. Everything that we know suggests it was the engineer's fault: he was doing twice the speed limit, he activated the emergency brake, he called for a lawyer, and he forget everything. Now, I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I smell a rat.
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Quote me where I said a terrorist did this. I am not the only person who uses Fox links on here.
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You didn use the word but you did want ppl to think so . You implied it in your tittle in your post everywhere now you play the i didn said terrorist ?

You are the one with pinned thread about MSM source all the time . In fact your only source are Anita Fuentez and the MSM . Ppl know they are both full of shit .

I suspect you to work for one of them or something gov .

It is pretty obivous you have an agenda here and you are paid for it .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63698888

It is pretty obvious, you are a liar, delusional, jealous, and you must feel very impotent. I can guarantee you ...you are a man...a little one at that. Now it is time to shut up.
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See you make my point . It is clear you are a zio-shill .
Next time you try to insult me try to not use the word i said to you earlier like come on ....

gtfo5
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The sad part is that while MW was up in them thar hills learning to play the theme from Deliverance and seaching for sign that her family tree had branches the rest of us were learning how the real world works.





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