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He Who is Without Sin, Cast The First Stone

 
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John 8:1-11

"Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.

At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”

“No one, sir,” she said.

“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”




The clip doesn't zero in on it much, but the written text does. So, what exactly was Jesus writing when He bent down twice and wrote in the sand?? Their names! He was writing the names of the pharisees!

Jeremiah 17:13 "LORD, you are the hope of Israel; all who forsake you will be put to shame. Those who turn away from you will be written in the dust because they have forsaken the LORD, the spring of living water."


Their names were not written in the Book of Life in heaven, their names were written in the dust of the earth. Pretty telling.


I'd like to also point out that I see this verse "he who is without sin cast the first stone" thrown around alot in the wrong context. Explaining to someone what the bible says sin is, is not "casting the first stone". Casting the first stone would be to condemn that person, which we are NOT supposed to do. Explaining what sin is, is not the same as condemning a person.

Example. Stealing is a sin, and telling people that stealing is a sin is NOT the same as condemning a person, this is not "judging" a person, or "casting stones" at a person. This is telling them that what they are doing is wrong, educating them. What they do with that information from that point forward is between them and God, not any of us.

Jesus taught people and He sent out his disciples to teach people. It is right to teach people what is right, when done in love and kindness.

It is wrong to teach people when done in hate, condemnation and cursing.

I hope this helps someone.


hf
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Five stars for title alone!

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Get lost, bible thumpers!
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Get lost new world order loving satanists!
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The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Christian here on GLP seem to be without sin...
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I'd really appreciate it if the material in the original post can be discussed instead of hundreds of comments just bashing christians.

There are hundreds of threads for that. Thanks for understanding.
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John 8:1-11

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Example. Stealing is a sin, and telling people that stealing is a sin
is NOT the same as condemning a person, this is not "judging" a person, or "casting stones" at a person. This is telling them that what they are doing is wrong, educating them. What they do with that information from that point forward is between them and God, not any of us.

Jesus taught people and He sent out his disciples to teach people. It is right to teach people what is right, when done in love and kindness.

It is wrong to teach people when done in hate, condemnation and cursing.

I hope this helps someone.


hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Who will tell this to the IRS?

Who will tell this to the myriad taxing agencies that confiscate properties we have paid for twice or four times over (interest)?

The "little people" are an easy target. Please go preach to the REAL pirates.
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That would be me but I dont throw shit.
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AWESOME!! THANK YOU.
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Amen Lisa!

1 Corinthians 6

Lawsuits Among Believers
If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord’s people?

Or do you not know that the Lord’s people will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases?

Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, do you ask for a ruling from those whose way of life is scorned in the church?

I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? But instead, one brother takes another to court—and this in front of unbelievers!

The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated?


Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters.

Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.


And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

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thanks Lisa*Lisa. You know the world hated Jesus when he was on earth and they hate him today. As Christian and followers we must realize that we will be hated too. We need to have patience towards these hardened souls and let the holy spirit work on them in God's time. hf
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I hope this helps someone.


hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


More than you know in ways you'd never know. When reading a scripture, I often compare the verse/es in different Bibles.

The John 8:1-11 is not in the New World Translation by Watchtower Bible Tract Society Inc. It's not there. The NWT starts at John 8:12. Eleven verses left out of the Bible. Hmmmm.

scratching

Anyway, nice post you made.

Last Edited by Nine's - IN MEMORIAM on 06/14/2015 06:35 PM
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I hope this helps someone.


hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


More than you know in ways you'd never know. When reading a scripture, I often compare the verse/es in different Bibles.

The John 8:1-11 is not in the New World Translation by Watchtower Bible Tract Society Inc. It's not there. The NWT starts at John 8:12. Eleven verses left out of the Bible. Hmmmm.

scratching

Anyway, nice post you made.
 Quoting: Nine's


Oh wow, really? Are you sure?

I was a JW for 7 years, and never even noticed! LOL!

hf
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It was not the world that hated jesus. It was the religious ones of the day who always wanted him dead. Nothings changed. Christians today hate jesus...for the same reason the pharisees did. He is a threat to their arrogance and smug judgmental pride.

if any of the world do hate jesus its because they only have his reps to judge him by...and all they see from them is arrogance...hate...child abuse...bible fights...smug self rightousness...greed.

yes..if the world hates god...its because christians made damn sure they would.

and then they have the hubris to say the world hates them because they are right.

what a joke.
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Amen Lisa!

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AWESOME!! THANK YOU.
 Quoting: savshorte 69243846


Five stars for title alone!

:5suns:
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Glad you guys liked it!

hf
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thanks Lisa*Lisa. You know the world hated Jesus when he was on earth and they hate him today. As Christian and followers we must realize that we will be hated too. We need to have patience towards these hardened souls and let the holy spirit work on them in God's time. hf
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True!

hf
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"Casting stones" was public execution, you know...
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It was not the world that hated jesus. It was the religious ones of the day who always wanted him dead. Nothings changed. Christians today hate jesus...for the same reason the pharisees did. He is a threat to their arrogance and smug judgmental pride.

if any of the world do hate jesus its because they only have his reps to judge him by...and all they see from them is arrogance...hate...child abuse...bible fights...smug self rightousness...greed.

yes..if the world hates god...its because christians made damn sure they would.

and then they have the hubris to say the world hates them because they are right.

what a joke.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69500625


Do you love Jesus more than they do?

Do you love God?
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*throws stone, hits lisa lisa on the head*....
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... I always found the account a little strange BECAUSE they brought the WOMAN to be stoned ... for adultery ... and wouldn't a man be involved too? ...
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... unless the man was NOT jewish? ...
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... and how did they know this was going on? ... were they spying? ...
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"Casting stones" was public execution, you know...
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not just saying somebody is wrong or sinful...
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I hope this helps someone.


hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


More than you know in ways you'd never know. When reading a scripture, I often compare the verse/es in different Bibles.

The John 8:1-11 is not in the New World Translation by Watchtower Bible Tract Society Inc. It's not there. The NWT starts at John 8:12. Eleven verses left out of the Bible. Hmmmm.

scratching

Anyway, nice post you made.
 Quoting: Nine's


Oh wow, really? Are you sure?

I was a JW for 7 years, and never even noticed! LOL!

hf
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Yes. I'm positive. They have the New World Translation on their website and you can check. It's not there. Going to check out some older copies of their Bibles later (was passed on a large collection of their books from a dear woman who passed away). Will check it later if I locate my reading glasses so I can scour the fine print.
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ill cast the first stone
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... I always found the account a little strange BECAUSE they brought the WOMAN to be stoned ... for adultery ... and wouldn't a man be involved too? ...
.
... unless the man was NOT jewish? ...
.
... and how did they know this was going on? ... were they spying? ...
.
 Quoting: Wisconsin


Somehow, there is more going on there.

She was caught "in the very act"!
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... I always found the account a little strange BECAUSE they brought the WOMAN to be stoned ... for adultery ... and wouldn't a man be involved too? ...
.
... unless the man was NOT jewish? ...
.
... and how did they know this was going on? ... were they spying? ...
.
 Quoting: Wisconsin


Somehow, there is more going on there.

She was caught "in the very act"!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69505942


That was their accusation............who knows what she was doing. If i had lived back then I wouldn't have trusted the pharisees as far as I could throw them.......lol.
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Let us also consider that Jesus said to kick up the dust at those who would just continue to refuse the truth.

And also to figuratively pluck the eye that out embraces evil doctrines that might otherwise kill the entire body. Rapture doctrines that lead the living into the arms of the devil would be one such example.


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Let us also consider that Jesus said to kick up the dust at those who would just continue to refuse the truth.

And also to figuratively pluck the eye that out embraces evil doctrines that might otherwise kill the entire body. Rapture doctrines that lead the living into the arms of the devil would be one such example.



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24908410


Ummmmm........I believe in the rapture.......let's save that topic for another day, ok?
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That's good. I came across that Jeremiah passage a couple weeks agi, and I totally thought of the adulterous woman.
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Stealing is a sin
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You may already know this, but let me add this for others. People often think sins are limited to lying, murder, stealing, etc.

But it's also a sin, when we don't love and help others:

Ezekiel 16:49 Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
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Stealing is a sin
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


You may already know this, but let me add this for others. People often think sins are limited to lying, murder, stealing, etc.

But it's also a sin, when we don't love and help others:

Ezekiel 16:49 Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69485622


You're absolutely right! And to take that one step farther, people will be judged on what they did do and what they didn't do!

And sometimes what you didn't do is worse!

hf





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