All you religious people are giving Trans-humanism a bad rap, because you all know nothing about it.

1) You will surely die, no matter how much you want what the serpent promised you.

2) You are getting dumber, each successive generation.

It's not because we don't know, we know exactly what this shit leads to.

You're just the next step of the Aryan Superman bullshit popularized by one Adolf Hitler.

Forgot to add, that shit always leads to the death of a shitload of people that don't agree with your ideas.

There will be from your side:
"they're too dumb to live so we must exterminate them"
"the planet is overpopulated so we have to kill them so the resources for our transhumanism stays on the level"
"their beliefs are wrong and superstitious so we must kill them"

Last Edited by -GLP-Christian- on 07/06/2015 06:05 AM

Yeap.

We don't expect to live forever, so that illustrates your ignorance about us.

We are also using technological tools to learn what we need to know when we need to. We can assimilate any knowledge faster than any generation before us. This also illustrates your ignorance.

Funny the Bible knows about you, and wanting to live longer, kind of like building the tower of Babylon. He said that you would come to wish you were dead but will not die. Something about while tinkering with things that are not meant for man.

The machines can use them, and the like not man.

Opie has been watching WAY too many Star Trek 'Borg' episodes.

What did people know 2000 years ago, about current modern times? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Actually this is the apex of what we were given in the Garden of Eden..

You can not prove a garden of eden. How can you possibly believe is something you can not prove? Is that not the VERY definition of insanity?

And If I want to have twelve penises, that's my Trans-Human right! Right? I mean... like... you know... not that I WANT that. No. It's just, like, Gun Rights, ya know?

If we let them take assault rifles, they'll take all the guns.

If we let them take most of our penises, they eventually want all of them.

Same thing, really, when you think about it.

Typo: *in* something

Let me repeat for the sanity of this discussion:

We want longer, healthier lives via technology. (That does not include 12 penises - WEIRDO!)

Okay, dude?

1. Stop taking yourself too seriously. Unless you PERSONALLY are building the means to copy your brain into the internet, chill. Science is awesome and no way a bunch of bible-thumpers are going to stop it.

2. You are talking to people who cannot get through the day without talking to an imaginary friend. In fact, I suspect the "imaginary friend" might be talking back to some of them. So you might want to back away slowly, avoiding eye contact, while keeping the sudden moves to a minimum.

3. Actually, the definition of insanity is mostly culturally based. Insanity is subjective. For example, if I said I was the king of England, I'd be insane. Unless everyone else on the planet thought I was the King of England, then I wouldn't be.

That's why people with imaginary friends have to band together, so they can CREATE a culture where they aren't insane. Of course this results in them thinking everyone else's imaginary friend is wrong, then they talk to their imaginary friends and the friends don't talk back (or worse, do) and suddenly you got people thinking that Women need to cover their hair or angels will come down and rape them.

And that the women will have had it coming, for exposing their hair to heaven.

Seriously. Islam. What's up with that?

Now this is the point where the Christians are all bobbing their heads in agreement, but completely failing to see the irony when I next point out that if they ever ate a Bacon Cheeseburger, and failed to confess to a priest about it, they are going straight to hell.

The only religion I respect Is the Amish, and half of them are crooks. They might never pay their bills, but at least they are consistent and don't pick and choose what parts of the bible they believe in.

Last Edited by Bob on 07/06/2015 06:24 AM

Bob, if I may summarize your post, many people believe in things which are not provable.

That makes them insane.
Proceed.

I am not religious
Trans humanism is the extreme of narcissism, a mental disease

Ok so your a health freak, not a transhumanist.

Actually, you're wrong.

It is about being able to modify yourself in any fashion you desire, including immortality, but does include having 12 penises.

Sorry, I know you want to take the high road, but point to a SINGLE mass audience technology that wasn't EVENTUALLY turned to Porn in some fashion.

The second man figures out how to grow 12 penises, someone is going to grow 12 penises. Do not even TRY to take the high road on this one.

That said, EVERYTHING has a dark side. The Crusades. Sorry Judeo-Christians. Bad time for you guys.

DO you know that shortly after creating the phonograph, they started recording baudy and crude limericks?

Don't claim to understand the mind of man. Make a device to let man reach the stars, and someone will immediately use it to go after the ones reflected in the bottom of a sewer.

Another deluded fool and his secular humanist folly. You don't have enough time left to "live for ever", haa,haaa. Wait for it, it's coming soon.

I am 100% against Trans-humanism or even taking a step in that direction.

Probably, because I'm an old, spiritual, mystic with a lifetime of humbling human experiences (and when I say humbling, I mean the "shock and awe" type).

Anyhow, I have done many spiritual disciplines over the years, and just recently I did a hypno-regression for past lives. 3 lives came up in that particular session (it's on tape, and it's the subconscious talking).

One of the lives, was as a soul trapped in a biobot body/mind convergence. The life was sad, because as a mechanical object the life was about being used for a sole purpose, to the level of abuse. (To clarify, when I say the biobot had a soul, I mean the experiences are recorded in the akashic records, just the same as any life lived are). The use was in some kind of chemical/ or poisons lab, and biobots were used as they could not fall sick and die from contact with it. There were no meaningful relationships for the biobot. When worn out and of no more use, the biobot bodies were just thrown on the trash heap.

The thing is, the hypnotist asked the question: "Where is the star system?" And on tape, clear as day, I say "Aurora".

Now, when I got home, I looked that up on Wikipedia, etc to see if I could get any confirmation. No, nothing to be found. So then I forgot about it.

A couple of months later, I was reading some channelled information on the internet, and there was a reference to the Aurora galaxy.

Another thing, lived lives are not linear - so I could be living this biobot life concurrently.

I feel certain that my Higher Self let me have this information in this format so that I could be made aware of the dangers presenting to the human race at this time....
Awareness is the key and I for one will be refusing any kind of chip or technological implant.

Bob, if I may, please alow me to clear up some confusion.

Trans-humanists are interested in extending life span and intelligence. Not 12 penises.

That means your still a WEIRDO for even suggesting it.
Proceed.

Chip, you are correct. That is also why we use computers to design the next Intel Processor. The details are too complex for any human to handle. Thankfully, with the help computers, we now have the insanely complex I7 processors.

Likewise...
Thankfully, with the help of computers, we can design DNA that when translated into RNA and transcribed by PCR, it can correctly fold into the protein we desire.

CAD - Computer Assisted Design.

Look, no matter what side you're on, this is what it will boil down to:

The Egyptians had Hieroglyphics. They have found chisled in walls what basically translates to "Priestess X gives good head".

8,000 year old bathroom wall scrawls.


The romans mad the Aquaduct. Whats one of the FIRST things they did with it?

Better whore houses.


Some people will corrupt it. Just because SOMEONE will corrupt something doesn't make it bad. Goes for any technology or idea.

Bob, your post has no relevance to the conversation. In addition, I now suspect you are a homosexual.

OP if someone were to grow 12 penises, do you think the best way to do it would be to have them all kinda near the crotch or would it be better to spread them out over your body?

Ma pantha, your post was not relevant to the thread. All you did was bloviate your unprovable fantasies.

Thanks for playing.

Chip, there are people WAY SMARTER than you or I, getting improved results already.

May I submit a link?
[link to www.independent.co.uk]

I'll state a fact then: a transhumanist bot will not be able to have a mystical experience.

God put a cap on our age. It even says it in the bible. We have found out the some of the mechanisms he used, but I don't think anyone will be able to override it without some seriously messed up side effects at least.

Chip, I did not use the words 'elimination of death'. Those are purely your words, not mine.

OK, people, what I see happening with several of you is your insertion of your fears, and UNPROAVABLE assumptions.

If your going to say something, you better have the facts to back it up.

That's fair, right?