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B] In debunking pro-hoax claims which have relied on 2nd generation video footage as opposed to the original NASA footage, do you believe it is now impossible for pro-hoaxers to ever prove their case through the usage of NASA footage?
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The NASA footage is available, I already linked you to where you can buy DVD versions for every mission that landed on the moon. There are countless hours of footage there, I have some of them myself. The Kinescope recording from Apollo 11 is considered by NASA to be the original recording. That is not lost. The 16mm data acquisition camera film isn't lost either. The film from the other missions isn't lost either.
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So...no big deal?

I'm not trying to be an ass here, or this time, however you prefer. I'm tying to understand if it really is a big deal, or should be, or not.

I mean, speaking hypothetically, if someone had broken in and stole them instead...would it not be a big deal to find party responsible and prosecute them?

Not that I actually think that would happen in any case...
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The Rockets were just like missiles. They launched and either blew up somewhere over the ocean or landed in the sea.

Nobody was actually inside them. Later the apollo Command Modules were dumped into the ocean by plane to simulate the astronauts return.

The later developed "space shuttles " are just glorified glider plans used in a similar manner.

Speaking of simulations, the guidance computer software is just that, a simulation. A cheap video game that runs algorithms and crunches numbers but has no bearing on reality.
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Except they were observed in orbit and observed leaving orbit and tracked on the way to and from the Moon.
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Observed by who? NASA, or observatories that require the existence of the space hoax to justify funding.
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Yes, that's it, thousands of astronomers all over the world knew it wasn't really there but lied to say it was in order to "justify funding" and not a single one of them leaked a word about their lies before they died. Oh, and amateurs too. Sky & Telescope, February 1970, pg 127-130. Look it up.
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Yeah if over 100,000 can keep shut on the Manhattan project, a few thousand Professional observers could easily be brought to do the same.

But let's suppose there was a portion of the observers that were either not corrupt / didn't have a conflict of interest or were amateurs.

So they see a blurb in the sky. It could have been space junk or some other celestial phenomena, but they are told by the propagandists at NASA and the U.S. government that this blurb is the "Apollo 11 rocket" . Then they parrot what they are told non-the-wiser.
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NASA admitted in 2006 that they could not locate the authentic video copy of the July 20, 1969, Moon landing.

Since then, Richard Nafzger, an engineer at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center has figured out what happened to the original recordings of the moon landing...

[link to therundownlive.com]
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could not locate something that has never existed

so natural! charlie
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Except they were observed in orbit and observed leaving orbit and tracked on the way to and from the Moon.
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Observed by who? NASA, or observatories that require the existence of the space hoax to justify funding.
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Yes, that's it, thousands of astronomers all over the world knew it wasn't really there but lied to say it was in order to "justify funding" and not a single one of them leaked a word about their lies before they died. Oh, and amateurs too. Sky & Telescope, February 1970, pg 127-130. Look it up.
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Yeah if over 100,000 can keep shut on the Manhattan project,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372

Except that they didn't. The Soviets knew about it before we even detonated the first bomb.
[link to io9.com]
1500 leaks, no biggie. And that's with a more or less sequestered work force. Now try doing that in 29 countries with astronomers all over the world who saw Apollo. Including amateurs. Yeah, good luck.
So they see a blurb in the sky. It could have been space junk or some other celestial phenomena, but they are told by the propagandists at NASA and the U.S. government that this blurb is the "Apollo 11 rocket" . Then they parrot what they are told non-the-wiser.
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How much experience do you have with satellite tracking? I'm guessing none. No, that's not how it works.
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Except they were observed in orbit and observed leaving orbit and tracked on the way to and from the Moon.
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Observed by who? NASA, or observatories that require the existence of the space hoax to justify funding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372


Yes, that's it, thousands of astronomers all over the world knew it wasn't really there but lied to say it was in order to "justify funding" and not a single one of them leaked a word about their lies before they died. Oh, and amateurs too. Sky & Telescope, February 1970, pg 127-130. Look it up.
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Yeah if over 100,000 can keep shut on the Manhattan project, a few thousand Professional observers could easily be brought to do the same.

But let's suppose there was a portion of the observers that were either not corrupt / didn't have a conflict of interest or were amateurs.

So they see a blurb in the sky. It could have been space junk or some other celestial phenomena, but they are told by the propagandists at NASA and the U.S. government that this blurb is the "Apollo 11 rocket" . Then they parrot what they are told non-the-wiser.
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Also, learn to read. No supposing required.
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old news!. "they were part of a batch of 200,000 tapes that were degaussed -- magnetically erased -- and re-used to save money."

i don't blame NASA or think this is some conspiracy, they just erased the tapes to save money as they were very expensive.
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wtf your joking, right?
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old news!. "they were part of a batch of 200,000 tapes that were degaussed -- magnetically erased -- and re-used to save money."

i don't blame NASA or think this is some conspiracy, they just erased the tapes to save money as they were very expensive.



you have got to be kidding right! the most momentous feat in the history of the world and you expect rational people to believe they erased it?

if you are a christain be like well we filmed jesus getting tacked up, but shit we need blank tapes, i've got a way to save money lets just erase those old jesus tapes! brillent and so fucking convienient a mate!
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But we have the kinescope and other recordings. We also have the original 16 mm film. We also have the original recordings and film for the other missions that landed on the moon. So, where's the conspiracy? Apollo 12, 14, 15, 16, 17 all landed on the moon. They didn't stop after 11...
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Not significantly different than the original consoles used to launch the space shuttle.
:lcc4::lcc1::lcc2::lcc3::lcc5:
Was that "fake" too?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


It's readily admitted that all those stage show props only had the computing power of a pocket calculator.

Just enough to make lights blink and screens turn to give the appearance of doing something.
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Prove it. They had the power necessary for the job they had to do. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it didn't work.
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Via: [link to www.physics.org]

1 "Your car has more computing power than the system that guided Apollo astronaut to the moon"

Via: [link to www.popsci.com]

"2. The Apollo computers had less processing power than a cellphone."


Via: [link to www.computerweekly.com]

3. By today's standards, the IT Nasa used in the Apollo manned lunar programme is pretty basic. But while they were no more powerful than a pocket calculator, these ingenious computer systems were able to guide astronauts across 356,000 km of space from the Earth to the Moon and return them safely.
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What I was asking to be proven is the statement "Just enough to make lights blink and screens turn to give the appearance of doing something."
Your links back me up. Thank you.
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So the shuttle is fake too? Interesting. Also interesting, you can build a copy of the original Apollo guidance computer for yourself...
[link to klabs.org]
You can also run the original Apollo guidance computer software in an emulator of the original hardware and even put it into a physically accurate flight simulator and make it think it's flying to the moon all over again.
[link to nassp.sourceforge.net]
It works. Sure, the computer's not particularly fast, and there's no graphical interface at all, it's all just numbers, but the instructions are publicly available and it really does work for getting you to the moon. It didn't need all the bells and whistles of modern computers. All the heavy number crunching was done on the ground to determine the trajectory needed to get to the moon, all the on board computer had to do was follow the flight plan. Its main job was to determine where it was in space using the star and horizon sightings fed to it by the astronauts (no, the command module was not capable of navigating itself to the moon and back accurately; it needed human visual input) and determine the orientation of the spacecraft based on those sightings so that it could hold itself in specified attitudes and perform burns to reach velocities (measured by accelerometers) specified by the astronauts who were following the flight plan.
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The Rockets were just like missiles. They launched and either blew up somewhere over the ocean or landed in the sea.

Nobody was actually inside them. Later the apollo Command Modules were dumped into the ocean by plane to simulate the astronauts return.

The later developed "space shuttles " are just glorified glider plans used in a similar manner.

Speaking of simulations, the guidance computer software is just that, a simulation. A cheap video game that runs algorithms and crunches numbers but has no bearing on reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372


Except they were observed in orbit and observed leaving orbit and tracked on the way to and from the Moon.
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Observed by who? NASA, or observatories that require the existence of the space hoax to justify funding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372


Multiple third parties, amateurs and countries hostile to the US.
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old news!. "they were part of a batch of 200,000 tapes that were degaussed -- magnetically erased -- and re-used to save money."

i don't blame NASA or think this is some conspiracy, they just erased the tapes to save money as they were very expensive.
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Sarcasm, I hope.

NASA only has like a trillion dollars since the 60s.
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You're kidding, right? Their budget has been slashed since the 60s. And what is left they don't get to just use on whatever they want. Every part of their budget is set aside for specific items.
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Shill. One of the most important events in human history and the documentation gets erased? They are either lying and don't wish to give them up or its incompetency beyond comprehension.

If they needed money then start a National fund raiser. They would have made 100 million dollars in short order.
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Resorting to the shill gambit. How typical.

The documentation was all backed up elsewhere. You only even know the data tapes were lost because NASA told you.
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whale oil

really, really

Oh My
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The dolphins said so long and thanks for all the fish..not.

the whales..well the whales wail.

and the tape is erased..did Nixon actually put them somewhere with his missing tapes?

having an erasure like that is of a slightly higher magnitude than taping over a wedding video with a football game.

but then again, it's all a set anyway.
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Why should we believe anything these people say?
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old news!. "they were part of a batch of 200,000 tapes that were degaussed -- magnetically erased -- and re-used to save money."

i don't blame NASA or think this is some conspiracy, they just erased the tapes to save money as they were very expensive.
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wtf your joking, right?
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That's pretty ridiculous, that something so monumental in the history of mankind would be erased to save money in a federal government that spends money like rain drops in a hurricane. It's ludicrous, I'm sorry, but why should we believe ANYTHING THESE PEOPLE SAY? At BEST, they're completely incompetent, and at worst they are abysmal lying sacks of shit.
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Observed by who? NASA, or observatories that require the existence of the space hoax to justify funding.
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Yes, that's it, thousands of astronomers all over the world knew it wasn't really there but lied to say it was in order to "justify funding" and not a single one of them leaked a word about their lies before they died. Oh, and amateurs too. Sky & Telescope, February 1970, pg 127-130. Look it up.
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Yeah if over 100,000 can keep shut on the Manhattan project,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372

Except that they didn't. The Soviets knew about it before we even detonated the first bomb.
[link to io9.com]
1500 leaks, no biggie. And that's with a more or less sequestered work force. Now try doing that in 29 countries with astronomers all over the world who saw Apollo. Including amateurs. Yeah, good luck.
So they see a blurb in the sky. It could have been space junk or some other celestial phenomena, but they are told by the propagandists at NASA and the U.S. government that this blurb is the "Apollo 11 rocket" . Then they parrot what they are told non-the-wiser.
 Quoting: AC

How much experience do you have with satellite tracking? I'm guessing none. No, that's not how it works.
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The Russians may have known about it...because they planted spys.

But even with an alleged 1,500 leaks it still somehow NEVER REACHED PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS! Which makes the conspiracy behind the Manhattan project all the more impressive!

It shows that even with leaks the government has the ability collude with others to suppress the truth and keep it from the public.

How much easier would this be with a much smaller number of professional observers?

On Apollo 11. Enlighten us. Explain the satellite tracking capacity in 1969, and name an independent amateur observer that had such technology and was independently tracking Apollo 11.
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Observed by who? NASA, or observatories that require the existence of the space hoax to justify funding.
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Yes, that's it, thousands of astronomers all over the world knew it wasn't really there but lied to say it was in order to "justify funding" and not a single one of them leaked a word about their lies before they died. Oh, and amateurs too. Sky & Telescope, February 1970, pg 127-130. Look it up.
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Yeah if over 100,000 can keep shut on the Manhattan project, a few thousand Professional observers could easily be brought to do the same.

But let's suppose there was a portion of the observers that were either not corrupt / didn't have a conflict of interest or were amateurs.

So they see a blurb in the sky. It could have been space junk or some other celestial phenomena, but they are told by the propagandists at NASA and the U.S. government that this blurb is the "Apollo 11 rocket" . Then they parrot what they are told non-the-wiser.
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Also, learn to read. No supposing required.
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Learn to debate. You didn't address this point. Did the amateurs have detailed visual of a rocket jetting through the sky to the moon or just a blurb of light in the sky with NASA's explanation as to what it was?
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It's readily admitted that all those stage show props only had the computing power of a pocket calculator.

Just enough to make lights blink and screens turn to give the appearance of doing something.
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Prove it. They had the power necessary for the job they had to do. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it didn't work.
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Via: [link to www.physics.org]

1 "Your car has more computing power than the system that guided Apollo astronaut to the moon"

Via: [link to www.popsci.com]

"2. The Apollo computers had less processing power than a cellphone."


Via: [link to www.computerweekly.com]

3. By today's standards, the IT Nasa used in the Apollo manned lunar programme is pretty basic. But while they were no more powerful than a pocket calculator, these ingenious computer systems were able to guide astronauts across 356,000 km of space from the Earth to the Moon and return them safely.
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What I was asking to be proven is the statement "Just enough to make lights blink and screens turn to give the appearance of doing something."
Your links back me up. Thank you.
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No it doesn't. The links confirm that the Apollo mission only had the computing power of a pocket calculator.
And they conclude with the ridiculously but officially sanctioned narrative from NASA that we somehow landed men on the moon with so little computing power. The links don't prove nor to they set out to try and prove NASA absurd claim, they just use it as a starting point for articles on computing power.
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Prove it. They had the power necessary for the job they had to do. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it didn't work.
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Via: [link to www.physics.org]

1 "Your car has more computing power than the system that guided Apollo astronaut to the moon"

Via: [link to www.popsci.com]

"2. The Apollo computers had less processing power than a cellphone."


Via: [link to www.computerweekly.com]

3. By today's standards, the IT Nasa used in the Apollo manned lunar programme is pretty basic. But while they were no more powerful than a pocket calculator, these ingenious computer systems were able to guide astronauts across 356,000 km of space from the Earth to the Moon and return them safely.
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What I was asking to be proven is the statement "Just enough to make lights blink and screens turn to give the appearance of doing something."
Your links back me up. Thank you.
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No it doesn't. The links confirm that the Apollo mission only had the computing power of a pocket calculator.
And they conclude with the ridiculously but officially sanctioned narrative from NASA that we somehow landed men on the moon with so little computing power. The links don't prove nor to they set out to try and prove NASA absurd claim, they just use it as a starting point for articles on computing power.
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then prove it wasn't enough. You did know that the necessary calculation could be done on a slide-rule if necessary, right?
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Yes, that's it, thousands of astronomers all over the world knew it wasn't really there but lied to say it was in order to "justify funding" and not a single one of them leaked a word about their lies before they died. Oh, and amateurs too. Sky & Telescope, February 1970, pg 127-130. Look it up.
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Yeah if over 100,000 can keep shut on the Manhattan project, a few thousand Professional observers could easily be brought to do the same.

But let's suppose there was a portion of the observers that were either not corrupt / didn't have a conflict of interest or were amateurs.

So they see a blurb in the sky. It could have been space junk or some other celestial phenomena, but they are told by the propagandists at NASA and the U.S. government that this blurb is the "Apollo 11 rocket" . Then they parrot what they are told non-the-wiser.
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Also, learn to read. No supposing required.
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Learn to debate. You didn't address this point.
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Learn to read, the point was already addressed before you tried to make it.
Did the amateurs have detailed visual of a rocket jetting through the sky to the moon or just a blurb of light in the sky with NASA's explanation as to what it was?
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With just a "blurb of light" I can determine what orbit an object is in, where it came from, and where it is going. No, it was not random space junk. Your claim is false and betrays your ignorance of satellite tracking. You are debunked.
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Yes, that's it, thousands of astronomers all over the world knew it wasn't really there but lied to say it was in order to "justify funding" and not a single one of them leaked a word about their lies before they died. Oh, and amateurs too. Sky & Telescope, February 1970, pg 127-130. Look it up.
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Yeah if over 100,000 can keep shut on the Manhattan project,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372

Except that they didn't. The Soviets knew about it before we even detonated the first bomb.
[link to io9.com]
1500 leaks, no biggie. And that's with a more or less sequestered work force. Now try doing that in 29 countries with astronomers all over the world who saw Apollo. Including amateurs. Yeah, good luck.
So they see a blurb in the sky. It could have been space junk or some other celestial phenomena, but they are told by the propagandists at NASA and the U.S. government that this blurb is the "Apollo 11 rocket" . Then they parrot what they are told non-the-wiser.
 Quoting: AC

How much experience do you have with satellite tracking? I'm guessing none. No, that's not how it works.
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The Russians may have known about it...because they planted spys.

But even with an alleged 1,500 leaks it still somehow NEVER REACHED PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS!
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1500 leaks. 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks.1500 leaks. 1500 leaks.1500 leaks.1500 leaks.1500 leaks. And yes, it reached public consciousness, that's why you know about it today. Get it yet? If you were trying to find out about it back then it would not have been hard to find leaked info. Fortunately for them the internet didn't exist yet. 1500 leaks. Apollo? None. Because it wasn't a conspiracy.
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How much easier would this be with a much smaller number of professional observers?
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Hey dipshit liar, it wasn't a few professional observers, it was HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE INCLUDING FUCKING AMATEURS! YOU ARE ACCUSING MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY OF BEING IN ON A MASSIVE CONSPIRACY!
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Yeah if over 100,000 can keep shut on the Manhattan project,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372

Except that they didn't. The Soviets knew about it before we even detonated the first bomb.
[link to io9.com]
1500 leaks, no biggie. And that's with a more or less sequestered work force. Now try doing that in 29 countries with astronomers all over the world who saw Apollo. Including amateurs. Yeah, good luck.
So they see a blurb in the sky. It could have been space junk or some other celestial phenomena, but they are told by the propagandists at NASA and the U.S. government that this blurb is the "Apollo 11 rocket" . Then they parrot what they are told non-the-wiser.
 Quoting: AC

How much experience do you have with satellite tracking? I'm guessing none. No, that's not how it works.
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The Russians may have known about it...because they planted spys.

But even with an alleged 1,500 leaks it still somehow NEVER REACHED PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS!
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1500 leaks. 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks.1500 leaks. 1500 leaks.1500 leaks.1500 leaks.1500 leaks. And yes, it reached public consciousness, that's why you know about it today. Get it yet? If you were trying to find out about it back then it would not have been hard to find leaked info. Fortunately for them the internet didn't exist yet. 1500 leaks. Apollo? None. Because it wasn't a conspiracy.
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We know about it today because the U.S. dropped a bomb Hiroshima causing an atomic explosion. That's when it became public knowledge that government had engaged in a massive conspiracy to create the weapon. It was not public knowledge before that.
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Yeah if over 100,000 can keep shut on the Manhattan project, a few thousand Professional observers could easily be brought to do the same.

But let's suppose there was a portion of the observers that were either not corrupt / didn't have a conflict of interest or were amateurs.

So they see a blurb in the sky. It could have been space junk or some other celestial phenomena, but they are told by the propagandists at NASA and the U.S. government that this blurb is the "Apollo 11 rocket" . Then they parrot what they are told non-the-wiser.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372


Also, learn to read. No supposing required.
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Learn to debate. You didn't address this point.
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Learn to read, the point was already addressed before you tried to make it.
Did the amateurs have detailed visual of a rocket jetting through the sky to the moon or just a blurb of light in the sky with NASA's explanation as to what it was?
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With just a "blurb of light" I can determine what orbit an object is in, where it came from, and where it is going. No, it was not random space junk. Your claim is false and betrays your ignorance of satellite tracking. You are debunked.
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Enlighten my ignorance on satellite tracking then.

Explain the satellite tracking capacity in 1969, and name an independent amateur observer that had such technology and was independently tracking Apollo 11.
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How much easier would this be with a much smaller number of professional observers?
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Hey dipshit liar, it wasn't a few professional observers, it was HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE INCLUDING FUCKING AMATEURS! YOU ARE ACCUSING MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY OF BEING IN ON A MASSIVE CONSPIRACY!
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Now you are just calling names.
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How much easier would this be with a much smaller number of professional observers?
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Hey dipshit liar, it wasn't a few professional observers, it was HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE INCLUDING FUCKING AMATEURS! YOU ARE ACCUSING MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY OF BEING IN ON A MASSIVE CONSPIRACY!
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Now you are just calling names.
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Answer me, yes or no, did amateur astronomers observe the Apollo missions in transit to the moon or not?
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Also, learn to read. No supposing required.
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Learn to debate. You didn't address this point.
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Learn to read, the point was already addressed before you tried to make it.
Did the amateurs have detailed visual of a rocket jetting through the sky to the moon or just a blurb of light in the sky with NASA's explanation as to what it was?
 Quoting: AC

With just a "blurb of light" I can determine what orbit an object is in, where it came from, and where it is going. No, it was not random space junk. Your claim is false and betrays your ignorance of satellite tracking. You are debunked.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Enlighten my ignorance on satellite tracking then.

Explain the satellite tracking capacity in 1969, and name an independent amateur observer that had such technology and was independently tracking Apollo 11.
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I have cited you an article from Sky & Telescope which explains all this and names quite a few trackers for Apollo 12.
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Let us know, OP, when nassa admits they have always & are participating in the black occult arts to the detriment of nature and humanity.

That would be newsworthy and believable .

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Except that they didn't. The Soviets knew about it before we even detonated the first bomb.
[link to io9.com]
1500 leaks, no biggie. And that's with a more or less sequestered work force. Now try doing that in 29 countries with astronomers all over the world who saw Apollo. Including amateurs. Yeah, good luck.
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How much experience do you have with satellite tracking? I'm guessing none. No, that's not how it works.
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The Russians may have known about it...because they planted spys.

But even with an alleged 1,500 leaks it still somehow NEVER REACHED PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS!
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1500 leaks. 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks. 1500 leaks.1500 leaks. 1500 leaks.1500 leaks.1500 leaks.1500 leaks. And yes, it reached public consciousness, that's why you know about it today. Get it yet? If you were trying to find out about it back then it would not have been hard to find leaked info. Fortunately for them the internet didn't exist yet. 1500 leaks. Apollo? None. Because it wasn't a conspiracy.
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We know about it today because the U.S. dropped a bomb Hiroshima causing an atomic explosion. That's when it became public knowledge that government had engaged in a massive conspiracy to create the weapon. It was not public knowledge before that.
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Why do you know about the project to develop said bomb? I thought the government could pull off a perfect massive leakless conspiracy according to you? How is it that we know about the project to develop it? Why weren't they able to keep the methods used to develop said bomb a perfect secret, why weren't they able to keep the very nature of the weapon used a complete and total secret? Sure, we'd know something had blown up an entire city, but why do we even know about the basics of what it was if such a conspiracy were possible? Why do our enemies know? Because they can't keep a conspiracy that large a secret indefinitely or even for very long!

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How much easier would this be with a much smaller number of professional observers?
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Hey dipshit liar, it wasn't a few professional observers, it was HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE INCLUDING FUCKING AMATEURS! YOU ARE ACCUSING MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY OF BEING IN ON A MASSIVE CONSPIRACY!
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Now you are just calling names.
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Answer me, yes or no, did amateur astronomers observe the Apollo missions in transit to the moon or not?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Answer the question. Yes or no. Let's see how honest you're willing to be...
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Learn to debate. You didn't address this point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372

Learn to read, the point was already addressed before you tried to make it.
Did the amateurs have detailed visual of a rocket jetting through the sky to the moon or just a blurb of light in the sky with NASA's explanation as to what it was?
 Quoting: AC

With just a "blurb of light" I can determine what orbit an object is in, where it came from, and where it is going. No, it was not random space junk. Your claim is false and betrays your ignorance of satellite tracking. You are debunked.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Enlighten my ignorance on satellite tracking then.

Explain the satellite tracking capacity in 1969, and name an independent amateur observer that had such technology and was independently tracking Apollo 11.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68636372

I have cited you an article from Sky & Telescope which explains all this and names quite a few trackers for Apollo 12.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Perhaps I missed it. Because I went back through the comments and I don't see any link to a Sky & Telescope article.





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