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gmigriff User ID: 29091837 United States 09/18/2015 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get it.. I get that IR photos are different than normal ones in terms of colors, that still doesn't explain why the black gun that was on the same background as the black pants didn't change colors while the pants did.. the guy in the picture has a dark shirt and dark pants on the same white surface and both have again same shade of color in the IR photo.. The "night vision" camera is registering light in the infrared spectrum, which is invisible to the naked eye. As in the example, the materials seen in the image can matter more than their perceived color in the visible spectrum. So it makes sense that the dark pants and dark weapon would appear different in IR. K....cool..just post up some examples so we can see what you mean. We will wait. Nah, i posted a link that clearly illustrates the concept. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14771203 United States 09/18/2015 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are my new hero. Quoting: aHEMagain^2 No, there has been no threads and/or discussion about this photo. This photo clearly was supposed to disappear. Here's the page that it's from, [link to www.dailycrimeblotter.com] Here's Dylann entering the church. :dylannenter: Here's Dylann exiting the church. :dylannexit: That's not the fanny pack in his hand, that's the gun. The photo originally came from the FBI [link to www.fbi.gov (secure)] . It was part of their "Most Wanted" page. Which they took down as soon as he was captured. Conveniently, archive.org didn't scan the Wanted page until after his capture. Who know's how long that page you found it on will be up. aHEMagain WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT? You know I saved all of the pictures that was on his facebook page. It all looked like it was taken by a professional camera man in the same day, just changed clothes and locations. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68817757 United States 09/18/2015 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | B.S. If you are talking about this photo... [link to www.spitzer.caltech.edu] All the colors are a different shade of orange or red. The light grey background is black. This is a piss-poor example to try and explain the color change of the pants. ? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70361438 United States 09/18/2015 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Look at color of door in first picture, and second picture. Obviously the color is off in the exit photos, possibly due to contrast or photo fuzzying to make roof more clear Quoting: magnificent-og Really? Look at the pavement. Look at the amount of difference in the pavement between the two photos. Now compare the amount of difference in the pants. You're certainly right about the photo fuzzing and adjusted contrast, but that doesn't make black pants white. Of course, we're limited to stills here. What we need is the original video, but that ain't gonna happen. aHEMagain I miss pretty sure that the reason his black pants look white is because that exit photo is in night vision/infrared. It looks like daylight in the entrance photo - how long was he in there I wonder? |
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gmigriff User ID: 29091837 United States 09/18/2015 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | B.S. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68817757 If you are talking about this photo... [link to www.spitzer.caltech.edu] All the colors are a different shade of orange or red. The light grey background is black. This is a piss-poor example to try and explain the color change of the pants. ? You sound like a member of the Dogon tribe when first confronted with aircraft. Keep talking, you're proving my point. Either way. Let me ask you this: Why would it matter that he changed his pants? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68817757 United States 09/18/2015 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would it matter that he changed his pants? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Where did he hide the pants in the church? I don't see him carrying a change of clothes with him into the church? These irregularities compound the lies that need told regarding this alleged incident. I have infra red game cameras and the photos tend to show shades of grey. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68817757 United States 09/18/2015 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If he changed cloths in the church then these should be noted in the "evidence list" part of the investigation? By the way... Where is the "evidence list"? Where is the Autopsy reports? Thread: Autopsy Reports for the Alleged Shooting in S.C. Where are the crime-scene photos? With most investigations, things tend to leak out? Where are the leaks? ? |
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gmigriff User ID: 29091837 United States 09/18/2015 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If he changed cloths in the church then these should be noted in the "evidence list" part of the investigation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68817757 By the way... Where is the "evidence list"? Where is the Autopsy reports? Thread: Autopsy Reports for the Alleged Shooting in S.C. Where are the crime-scene photos? With most investigations, things tend to leak out? Where are the leaks? ? Now those are important questions for sure. Much more interesting than pants.. |
UseLessRepEATER User ID: 70360434 United States 09/19/2015 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | whole thing was BS Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies..... Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~H. L. Mencken~ We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. ~Plato~ When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. ~Dresden James~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70181027 United States 09/19/2015 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually the first one is in full color and the second is a 'night cam' black and white. I have no idea what time this Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones occurred or why different cams would be used. That is weird really. Not sure if night cam, but the second photo is clearly blown out. Either that, or the scenic crew painted the door the wrong color for the exit photo. Ahemagain - bro, I've really enjoyed your input over the years. Almost always on point, but this week... you go back on the reefer? Either way, get it together, man! |
gmigriff User ID: 29091837 United States 09/19/2015 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing I find interesting about the photo of him leaving the church, is that he still has the gun in his hand. Was he worried that police might already be outside waiting to confront him? Or was he sure he was gonnna be fine leaving a church visibly armed. I hadnt seen the exit photo until now, but i figured he'd stash it back in the manpurse before he split. Dunno. |
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aHEMagain^2 User ID: 70175505 United States 09/19/2015 12:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How does the camera take two different exposures from the same area?... Quoting: Redpaw_TheArcher No seriously, it's a stability camera mounted, it has a prime lens. It doesn't zoom, it doesn't compensate for lighting...it just takes an image. I don't fall in either category of staged or not. I just want to know how a security cam, can do this. Me too! The second image looks like it was taken from a deer cam at night. It isn't a night cam photo, you can see color in his face. What I would like to know is why the FBI would release this photo that has obviously been degraded in quality and had the contrast blown. The cropping also indicates things in the image they don't want us to see. Like the time stamp. It's like someone working in the FBI thinks people will just say, "Oh, look. That photo is kinda blurry. Too bad they didn't get the camera focused." The thing is, for all our jokes about "sheeple ", people aren't stupid. They understand these are digital photos taken with a camera capable of much higher resolution. I also find it amazing that NO ONE else appears to have reposted the photo. That makes me think the FBI only had it up a short time. aHEMagain Last Edited by aHEMagain^2 on 09/19/2015 12:40 AM "And once again, Probability proves itself willing to sneak into a back alley and service Drama as would a copper piece harlot." -- Vaarsuvius, The Order of the Stick [link to tvtropes.org] "History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme" -- Mark Twain "It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence.-- William Clifford [link to myweb.lmu.edu] |
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gmigriff User ID: 29091837 United States 09/19/2015 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't see a gun in his hand, I see an unidentified dark area near his right hand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68817757 It could be the bag that he had on when he entered? Looked again. And yes, just as likely its the black bag. I kept seeong the tip of his index finger wrapped around the trigger. But just as likely, its the strap of the bag. Fair point. Last Edited by gmigriff on 09/19/2015 01:02 AM |
gmigriff User ID: 29091837 United States 09/19/2015 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How does the camera take two different exposures from the same area?... Quoting: Redpaw_TheArcher No seriously, it's a stability camera mounted, it has a prime lens. It doesn't zoom, it doesn't compensate for lighting...it just takes an image. I don't fall in either category of staged or not. I just want to know how a security cam, can do this. Me too! The second image looks like it was taken from a deer cam at night. It isn't a night cam photo, you can see color in his face. What I would like to know is why the FBI would release this photo that has obviously been degraded in quality and had the contrast blown. The cropping also indicates things in the image they don't want us to see. Like the time stamp. It's like someone working in the FBI thinks people will just say, "Oh, look. That photo is kinda blurry. Too bad they didn't get the camera focused." The thing is, for all our jokes about "sheeple ", people aren't stupid. They understand these are digital photos taken with a camera capable of much higher resolution. I also find it amazing that NO ONE else appears to have reposted the photo. That makes me think the FBI only had it up a short time. aHEMagain |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68817757 United States 09/19/2015 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The dark area on the right shoulder is seen in both entry and exit photos. It looks like they tried to smudge the grubby shoes he was wearing in the entry photo, and then opted to chop the shoes off on the exit photo? Shooting 9 people at close range a Moron would likely have some blood on them, especially the shoes? Why no shoes in the exit photo? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68817757 United States 09/19/2015 01:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The second half of the two part exit photo... It looks like someone took a cell-phone photograph from the screen of a large Television CRT screen. It doesn't have the clarity of the entry photo? You can sort of see the television scan lines in the exit photo? Not so on the entry photo? |
aHEMagain^2 User ID: 70175505 United States 09/19/2015 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually the first one is in full color and the second is a 'night cam' black and white. I have no idea what time this Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones occurred or why different cams would be used. That is weird really. Not sure if night cam, but the second photo is clearly blown out. Either that, or the scenic crew painted the door the wrong color for the exit photo. Ahemagain - bro, I've really enjoyed your input over the years. Almost always on point, but this week... you go back on the reefer? Either way, get it together, man! Yeah, you think I'm brilliant when you agree with me and think I'm high when you don't. I guess that is significantly better than the standard response, to call me a shill. Look, I didn't suddenly get stupider, or high, or shilly. I always am this way. I always post my honest opinion, my best possible analysis at the time. I'm wrong fairly frequently, and whenever I realize I am, I share it and the reasons why. If I earlier used an over abundance of declarative, conclusive statement's about this issue, I apologize. I did so because I find this photo very exciting. For our community, this should be huge. A GLP exclusive. There are a bevy of anomalies with this photo. It's very existence is an anomaly. Of course opinions are going to differ about the specifics. And if you disagree with my opinion about the pants, fine. Let's talk about that. But it pisses me off to no end when people just discount something out of hand, aren't willing to debate the matter, and fire straw men arguments and ad hominem's while they're at it. aHEMagain Last Edited by aHEMagain^2 on 09/19/2015 01:37 AM "And once again, Probability proves itself willing to sneak into a back alley and service Drama as would a copper piece harlot." -- Vaarsuvius, The Order of the Stick [link to tvtropes.org] "History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme" -- Mark Twain "It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence.-- William Clifford [link to myweb.lmu.edu] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67402685 United States 09/19/2015 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Look at color of door in first picture, and second picture. Obviously the color is off in the exit photos, possibly due to contrast or photo fuzzying to make roof more clear Quoting: magnificent-og Hair and shirt are the same colors, and it appears the grey pants has pockets and are loooser fitting that the black legging type pnts. |
aHEMagain^2 User ID: 70175514 United States 09/19/2015 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where you been gmigriff? Oh, that's right. Thanks for the insightful reply. aHEMagain Last Edited by aHEMagain^2 on 09/19/2015 01:44 AM "And once again, Probability proves itself willing to sneak into a back alley and service Drama as would a copper piece harlot." -- Vaarsuvius, The Order of the Stick [link to tvtropes.org] "History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme" -- Mark Twain "It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence.-- William Clifford [link to myweb.lmu.edu] |