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Dylann Roof exiting the church photo

 
gmigriff

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 Quoting: gmigriff


I don't get it..

I get that IR photos are different than normal ones in terms of colors, that still doesn't explain why the black gun that was on the same background as the black pants didn't change colors while the pants did..

the guy in the picture has a dark shirt and dark pants on the same white surface and both have again same shade of color in the IR photo..
 Quoting: VeldtVW


The "night vision" camera is registering light in the infrared spectrum, which is invisible to the naked eye. As in the example, the materials seen in the image can matter more than their perceived color in the visible spectrum. So it makes sense that the dark pants and dark weapon would appear different in IR.
 Quoting: gmigriff


K....cool..just post up some examples so we can see what you mean.

We will wait.
 Quoting: Halcyon Daze


Nah, i posted a link that clearly illustrates the concept.
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Re: Dylann Roof exiting the church photo
You are my new hero.

No, there has been no threads and/or discussion about this photo. This photo clearly was supposed to disappear. Here's the page that it's from, [link to www.dailycrimeblotter.com]

Here's Dylann entering the church.
:dylannenter:

Here's Dylann exiting the church.
:dylannexit:

That's not the fanny pack in his hand, that's the gun.

The photo originally came from the FBI [link to www.fbi.gov (secure)] . It was part of their "Most Wanted" page. Which they took down as soon as he was captured.

Conveniently, archive.org didn't scan the Wanted page until after his capture.

Who know's how long that page you found it on will be up.

aHEMagain
 Quoting: aHEMagain^2


WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?

You know I saved all of the pictures that was on his facebook page. It all looked like it was taken by a professional camera man in the same day, just changed clothes and locations.
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09/18/2015 11:31 PM
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Re: Dylann Roof exiting the church photo
B.S.
If you are talking about this photo...

[link to www.spitzer.caltech.edu]

All the colors are a different shade of orange or red. The light grey background is black.

This is a piss-poor example to try and explain the color change of the pants.
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09/18/2015 11:33 PM
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Looks like different socks and shoes. Entering church = black socks and dark shoes. At time of arrest = white socks and white shoes.
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Re: Dylann Roof exiting the church photo
No. Look at color of door in first picture, and second picture. Obviously the color is off in the exit photos, possibly due to contrast or photo fuzzying to make roof more clear
 Quoting: magnificent-og

Really?

Look at the pavement. Look at the amount of difference in the pavement between the two photos. Now compare the amount of difference in the pants.

You're certainly right about the photo fuzzing and adjusted contrast, but that doesn't make black pants white.

Of course, we're limited to stills here. What we need is the original video, but that ain't gonna happen.

aHEMagain
 Quoting: aHEMagain^2


I miss pretty sure that the reason his black pants look white is because that exit photo is in night vision/infrared.

It looks like daylight in the entrance photo - how long was he in there I wonder?
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Didn't he get arrested a few days later?
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Re: Dylann Roof exiting the church photo
B.S.
If you are talking about this photo...

[link to www.spitzer.caltech.edu]

All the colors are a different shade of orange or red. The light grey background is black.

This is a piss-poor example to try and explain the color change of the pants.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68817757


You sound like a member of the Dogon tribe when first confronted with aircraft. Keep talking, you're proving my point. Either way. Let me ask you this: Why would it matter that he changed his pants?
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Re: Dylann Roof exiting the church photo
Dylann was supposedly in the church for about 2 hours. An evening service. I agree, I think the camera night view came on and changed the exposure, sadly.
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Why would it matter that he changed his pants?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Where did he hide the pants in the church?

I don't see him carrying a change of clothes with him into the church?

These irregularities compound the lies that need told regarding this alleged incident.

I have infra red game cameras and the photos tend to show shades of grey.
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Re: Dylann Roof exiting the church photo
Dylann was supposedly in the church for about 2 hours. An evening service.
 Quoting: iocosus


I think it was a bible study class.

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Dylann was supposedly in the church for about 2 hours. An evening service.
 Quoting: iocosus


I think it was a bible study class.
 Quoting: gmigriff


Yes, I think you are right.
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09/18/2015 11:56 PM
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If he changed cloths in the church then these should be noted in the "evidence list" part of the investigation?

By the way...

Where is the "evidence list"?

Where is the Autopsy reports?

Thread: Autopsy Reports for the Alleged Shooting in S.C.

Where are the crime-scene photos?

With most investigations, things tend to leak out?

Where are the leaks?
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Re: Dylann Roof exiting the church photo
Dylann was supposedly in the church for about 2 hours. An evening service.
 Quoting: iocosus


I think it was a bible study class.
 Quoting: gmigriff


Yes, I think you are right.
 Quoting: iocosus


But you are right, he was there for a long time, given what he eventually did.
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Re: Dylann Roof exiting the church photo
If he changed cloths in the church then these should be noted in the "evidence list" part of the investigation?

By the way...

Where is the "evidence list"?

Where is the Autopsy reports?

Thread: Autopsy Reports for the Alleged Shooting in S.C.

Where are the crime-scene photos?

With most investigations, things tend to leak out?

Where are the leaks?
?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68817757


Now those are important questions for sure. Much more interesting than pants..
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Re: Dylann Roof exiting the church photo
whole thing was BS
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Re: Dylann Roof exiting the church photo
Actually the first one is in full color and the second is a 'night cam' black and white. I have no idea what time this

occurred or why different cams would be used. That is weird really.
 Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones


Not sure if night cam, but the second photo is clearly blown out. Either that, or the scenic crew painted the door the wrong color for the exit photo.

Ahemagain - bro, I've really enjoyed your input over the years. Almost always on point, but this week... you go back on the reefer?

Either way, get it together, man!
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Re: Dylann Roof exiting the church photo
One thing I find interesting about the photo of him leaving the church, is that he still has the gun in his hand. Was he worried that police might already be outside waiting to confront him? Or was he sure he was gonnna be fine leaving a church visibly armed. I hadnt seen the exit photo until now, but i figured he'd stash it back in the manpurse before he split. Dunno.
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Re: Dylann Roof exiting the church photo
Something else I noticed...

That plant partially hidden by the column doesn't look the same?

It looks bigger? But maybe due to the zoom?
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Re: Dylann Roof exiting the church photo
I don't see a gun in his hand, I see an unidentified dark area near his right hand.

It could be the bag that he had on when he entered?
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How does the camera take two different exposures from the same area?...

No seriously, it's a stability camera mounted, it has a prime lens. It doesn't zoom, it doesn't compensate for lighting...it just takes an image.

I don't fall in either category of staged or not. I just want to know how a security cam, can do this.
 Quoting: Redpaw_TheArcher


Me too! The second image looks like it was taken from a deer cam at nightlolsign.
 Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones

It isn't a night cam photo, you can see color in his face.

What I would like to know is why the FBI would release this photo that has obviously been degraded in quality and had the contrast blown. The cropping also indicates things in the image they don't want us to see. Like the time stamp.

It's like someone working in the FBI thinks people will just say, "Oh, look. That photo is kinda blurry. Too bad they didn't get the camera focused."

The thing is, for all our jokes about "sheeple ", people aren't stupid. They understand these are digital photos taken with a camera capable of much higher resolution.

I also find it amazing that NO ONE else appears to have reposted the photo. That makes me think the FBI only had it up a short time.

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It's the camera....conspiracy off.
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You do know your late stage syphilis is untreatable right?
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Re: Dylann Roof exiting the church photo
I don't see a gun in his hand, I see an unidentified dark area near his right hand.

It could be the bag that he had on when he entered?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68817757


Looked again. And yes, just as likely its the black bag. I kept seeong the tip of his index finger wrapped around the trigger. But just as likely, its the strap of the bag. Fair point.

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Re: Dylann Roof exiting the church photo
How does the camera take two different exposures from the same area?...

No seriously, it's a stability camera mounted, it has a prime lens. It doesn't zoom, it doesn't compensate for lighting...it just takes an image.

I don't fall in either category of staged or not. I just want to know how a security cam, can do this.
 Quoting: Redpaw_TheArcher


Me too! The second image looks like it was taken from a deer cam at nightlolsign.
 Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones

It isn't a night cam photo, you can see color in his face.

What I would like to know is why the FBI would release this photo that has obviously been degraded in quality and had the contrast blown. The cropping also indicates things in the image they don't want us to see. Like the time stamp.

It's like someone working in the FBI thinks people will just say, "Oh, look. That photo is kinda blurry. Too bad they didn't get the camera focused."

The thing is, for all our jokes about "sheeple ", people aren't stupid. They understand these are digital photos taken with a camera capable of much higher resolution.

I also find it amazing that NO ONE else appears to have reposted the photo. That makes me think the FBI only had it up a short time.

aHEMagain
 Quoting: aHEMagain^2


billclinton1

DOrolleyes
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The dark area on the right shoulder is seen in both entry and exit photos.

It looks like they tried to smudge the grubby shoes he was wearing in the entry photo, and then opted to chop the shoes off on the exit photo?

Shooting 9 people at close range a Moron would likely have some blood on them, especially the shoes?

Why no shoes in the exit photo?
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whole thing was BS
 Quoting: UseLessRepEATER


As was 9/11.

Best advice: pay your taxes to lois learner or else.
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The second half of the two part exit photo...

It looks like someone took a cell-phone photograph from the screen of a large Television CRT screen.

It doesn't have the clarity of the entry photo?

You can sort of see the television scan lines in the exit photo?

Not so on the entry photo?
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Actually the first one is in full color and the second is a 'night cam' black and white. I have no idea what time this

occurred or why different cams would be used. That is weird really.
 Quoting: KimmieAnnaJones


Not sure if night cam, but the second photo is clearly blown out. Either that, or the scenic crew painted the door the wrong color for the exit photo.

Ahemagain - bro, I've really enjoyed your input over the years. Almost always on point, but this week... you go back on the reefer?

Either way, get it together, man!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70181027


Yeah, you think I'm brilliant when you agree with me and think I'm high when you don't.

I guess that is significantly better than the standard response, to call me a shill.

Look, I didn't suddenly get stupider, or high, or shilly. I always am this way. I always post my honest opinion, my best possible analysis at the time. I'm wrong fairly frequently, and whenever I realize I am, I share it and the reasons why.

If I earlier used an over abundance of declarative, conclusive statement's about this issue, I apologize. I did so because I find this photo very exciting. For our community, this should be huge. A GLP exclusive.

There are a bevy of anomalies with this photo. It's very existence is an anomaly. Of course opinions are going to differ about the specifics. And if you disagree with my opinion about the pants, fine. Let's talk about that.

But it pisses me off to no end when people just discount something out of hand, aren't willing to debate the matter, and fire straw men arguments and ad hominem's while they're at it.

aHEMagain

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Re: Dylann Roof exiting the church photo
No. Look at color of door in first picture, and second picture. Obviously the color is off in the exit photos, possibly due to contrast or photo fuzzying to make roof more clear
 Quoting: magnificent-og


Hair and shirt are the same colors, and it appears the grey pants has pockets and are loooser fitting that the black legging type pnts.
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...
 Quoting: aHEMagain^2


billclinton1

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 Quoting: gmigriff

Where you been gmigriff? Oh, that's right.

Thanks for the insightful reply.

corbinclappa

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"It is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything upon insufficient evidence.-- William Clifford [link to myweb.lmu.edu]





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