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Flat Earth Theory:A Beginner's Guide - Start here before discussing the FET

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Too many beginners popping into Flat Earth Threads and asking questions that are basic to the FET. Do your job, spend some time studying the stuff that is out there.
Flat Earth Theorists are not here to impose their will on you. But they need you , the Ball Earther to be able to stand up to their observations. We are all in the same boat. Flat earth theorists are not easy to debunk. IF you have reality behind you, and describe it, then nothing can debunk it ,can it?
We humans after a break of a few centuries , are now going back to the flat earth understanding we had before they imposed the round Planet (PLANE + ET.....ironic???) model onto us. This is not a conspiracy of any sort, but just observations made from proper study dating back to a couple centuries ago. There are books written by eminent scientists of the time, as yet unclaimed public rewards of thousands of dollars posted a century ago, to anyone who could prove that the earth was ROUND .
To study this is to make a fair debate. To understand this , is to help the cause of the true nature of our existence This benefits everybody. To diss this off as rubish is stupidity.
I'll make it easy for you to start and give you lots of study material.





First:
Why do we even THINK the earth is round. Don't we all KNOW the planet is ROUND?
- We all know that based only on what we have been told. Not through direct observations.

What makes us think the earth is flat in the first instance?
- Simple. Observe a ship docked at port. Note the level at which the water touches the ship. Now allow the ship to travel miles away into the horizon. Get a powerful telescope. You will see that the ship is at the same level as it was when it was in port.

- Lighthouse beams are seen from miles away as a STRAIGHT HORIZONTAL beam. This doesn't tally with the earth's suppposed curvature.
- Buildings can be seen from miles into the curvature with apparently no tilt, or obscurity of the base.

Go on, try it:
Use this earth curvature calculator in your studies.
[link to dizzib.github.io]

- The moon has no hotspot. It seems to be self-illuminated.

- THe sun's reflection at sunset on a flat ocean will reach your feet, impossible if the world were round.
Imagine a curved surface with a line of mirrors on the surface. Now position a bright light just above the mirrors from across you. Would you be able to see the reflection in the mirror that touches your feet? Impossible.

And there's more. Much more .
From any height, the horizon is a curve.
They will tell you that the great secret is that the world is much bigger than what we have been told. Even so, the spin of the earth would be noticeable. Planes would still have difficulty landing or reaching anywhere.


Then there is this huge circus spinning thru space.
As discussed here:
Is the ball Earth spinning at 1000mph, revolving around the Sun at 67,000mph,the solar system spiraling around the Milky Way galaxy at 500,000mph
Thread: Is the ball Earth spinning at 1000mph, revolving around the Sun at 67,000mph,the solar system spiraling around the Milky Way galaxy at 500,000mph

A spinning circus like that will not be stable. The planets would have been thrown out of orbit eons ago. We wouldn't be born. They also ignore that since this big spinning circus is going through some virgin space territory, we should be encountering debris of all sort every once in a while. Or does someone keep cleaning our path through space.


I could go on. But now its your turn to study and understand. There is mind blowing stuff there, linked to the flat earth, but if I can't get a word in edge-ways without being insulted, then Im' not going to be posting any info. So do us a favor,and study up.









You can start here>>>

STUDY MATERIAL:

Since GLP won't allow the link to be posted, you need to google it:

"A Fair Debate of the Flat Earth Theory"
Click on the fifth link in the search results.
YOu will be presented with a discussion lasting about 400 ++ pages. What we need begins on page #11. So start there and study.


How far away is the horizon?
[link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]


Free Book pdf of 229 pages:
Zetetic Astronomy: Earth Not A Globe!
[link to ssoc.selfip.com:81]

Plus countless Youtube channels that adress the subject.

That should be a good starter kit for you to have a good foundation of understanding on the subject you are dealing with.


Study well. And come back.

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The fifth link may not be it.
In which case first google this:


"A Fair Debate of the Flat Earth Theory"

Then search for the link which has these words in the description:
Why would the earth be the only planet in the universe thats flat ?
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Post your links here that help the cause.
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Correction:

"From any height, the horizon is flat"
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Correction:

"From any height, the horizon is flat"
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My understanding is that the horizon stays level with you the higher you go,,, pointing to concave earth.
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Correction:

"From any height, the horizon is flat"
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My understanding is that the horizon stays level with you the higher you go,,, pointing to concave earth.
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i didn't study up as I was a flat farther once
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Correction:

"From any height, the horizon is flat"
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My understanding is that the horizon stays level with you the higher you go,,, pointing to concave earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25812698


i didn't study up as I was a flat farther once
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earther lol
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wow, this is the most idiotic thing I think I've ever read.
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wow, this is the most idiotic thing I think I've ever read.
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Why because some teacher told you the earth is a globe? Your genius is based upon the fact that someone told you the earth is a globe. Did you ever stop to use your own brain and decide for yourself? Therefore you are among the most idiotic people to have walked the planet lol!
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The fifth link may not be it.
In which case first google this:


"A Fair Debate of the Flat Earth Theory"

Then search for the link which has these words in the description:
Why would the earth be the only planet in the universe thats flat ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70110018


EDIT:
What we need begins on page#10
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[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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It don´t matter whether earf is flat,round, a cube or w/e.
What matters is, what is happening on it.
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It don´t matter whether earf is flat,round, a cube or w/e.
What matters is, what is happening on it.
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If it is discovered that earth is flat, what happens on it will be significantly altered for the better.
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It don´t matter whether earf is flat,round, a cube or w/e.
What matters is, what is happening on it.
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Actually this is the only thing that matters.

Which is why you get shit on for talking about it.


Telling someone that their world doesn't revolve around them.

Is like telling a religious person God isn't real.
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Morons like you give real conspiracy theorists a bad name. I guess the moon and sun are flat too. I guess satellite is fake too and take fake pictures. Idiots.
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If the earth is flat why can’t you stand on the shore of Lake Superior and see the opposite shore?
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Morons like you give real conspiracy theorists a bad name. I guess the moon and sun are flat too. I guess satellite is fake too and take fake pictures. Idiots.
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Prove that the moon and the sun are globes. Prove that satellites are real and that the pictures that they take are real. Right now all you have stated is that flat earthers are wrong because they are idiots. lol
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If the earth is flat why can’t you stand on the shore of Lake Superior and see the opposite shore?
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If you had good enough optics you would be able to. And also after a enough distance the atmosphere will disrupt the light rays enough that you will not be able to resolve it anymore regardless of the optics you use.
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Direct observation here:

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If the earth is flat why can’t you stand on the shore of Lake Superior and see the opposite shore?
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The beginning of this thread says it: please study up before asking some of the basic questions. Do your part. Study then come back.
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If the earth is flat why can’t you stand on the shore of Lake Superior and see the opposite shore?
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If you had good enough optics you would be able to. And also after a enough distance the atmosphere will disrupt the light rays enough that you will not be able to resolve it anymore regardless of the optics you use.
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Why do I need optics? I live 300 miles away from Denali and on a clear day I can see it just fine.
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Direct observation here:


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Thats an amazing video. You can see the curvature of the earf right at treetop level! Yep. That proves it.

But here's another video:
In this video the earf shape shifts from a round earth to a flat earth to a concave earf.
Oh wait, it must be the fish eye lens no?

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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If the earth is flat why can’t you stand on the shore of Lake Superior and see the opposite shore?
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The beginning of this thread says it: please study up before asking some of the basic questions. Do your part. Study then come back.
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Study what? That the earth is flat? I’ll tell you what. You post one bit of convincing empirical evidence that shows the earth is flat. Let’s start with that.
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Morons like you give real conspiracy theorists a bad name. I guess the moon and sun are flat too. I guess satellite is fake too and take fake pictures. Idiots.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70157518


Prove that the moon and the sun are globes. Prove that satellites are real and that the pictures that they take are real. Right now all you have stated is that flat earthers are wrong because they are idiots. lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70447938


1. Observe the shadow of the crescent moon. It's curve implies that the moon is a sphere.

2. When the earth rotates around the sun, wee see the surface of the sun from different angles.

3. Satellites are real because we are using GPS and mobile phones.

4. If you find your house on Google Earth you may agree that the satellite photos are real indeed.
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If the earth is flat why can’t you stand on the shore of Lake Superior and see the opposite shore?
 Quoting: strgzr


The beginning of this thread says it: please study up before asking some of the basic questions. Do your part. Study then come back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69339734


Study what? That the earth is flat? I’ll tell you what. You post one bit of convincing empirical evidence that shows the earth is flat. Let’s start with that.
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Lots of convincing empirical evidence already posted. Tuff to get past the programming of your mind.
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If the earth is flat why can’t you stand on the shore of Lake Superior and see the opposite shore?
 Quoting: strgzr


The beginning of this thread says it: please study up before asking some of the basic questions. Do your part. Study then come back.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69339734


Study what? That the earth is flat? I’ll tell you what. You post one bit of convincing empirical evidence that shows the earth is flat. Let’s start with that.
 Quoting: strgzr


Lots of convincing empirical evidence already posted. Tuff to get past the programming of your mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69339734


Pick just one bit. Show me the light.
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Direct observation here:


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Thats an amazing video. You can see the curvature of the earf right at treetop level! Yep. That proves it.

But here's another video:
In this video the earf shape shifts from a round earth to a flat earth to a concave earf.
Oh wait, it must be the fish eye lens no?

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69339734


This video was shot with a wide-angle lens camera. So you get an effect like in this picture: [link to tmprojection.deviantart.com]
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If you're dumb enough to believe Flat Earth Theory, then boy do I have a treat for you.

I have some beachfront property in Nevada. Dirt cheap.
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I can't believe you have enough brain power to keep your blood full of oxygen.

putin
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hesright
I think a lot of people can not wrap there minds around how big the Earth really is.
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I can't believe you have enough brain power to keep your blood full of oxygen.

putin
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hesright
I think a lot of people can not wrap there minds around how big the Earth really is.
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Well the problem is that all Flat Earthers are morons in poverty.

They lack the money to buy the materials to test any of this crap, so they just spread someone else's words.


Get a job you bums, it's not like testing materials are expensive.





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