California Democrats Pass "Seed Law" that Prevents Farmers From Selling and Trading Seeds | |
Chugiakian User ID: 68640416 United States 10/14/2015 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at the seed law that liberal California Democrats just passed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68123803 It prevents farmers from selling and sharing their seeds three miles away from their own farms (like at a Farmer's Market or Swap Meet) and allows the Sec. of Agriculture to dictate what can and cannot be grown in the state. Bought and paid for lobbyists for Monsanto, Dow etc. Fucking sellouts. There aren't many links on this news and the one I wanted to post is banned at GLP, but this link below talks about the law. [link to www.organicconsumers.org (secure)] give us the link in code please ..... like www. organic consumers .org Chugiakian |
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Chugiakian User ID: 68640416 United States 10/14/2015 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at the seed law that liberal California Democrats just passed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68123803 It prevents farmers from selling and sharing their seeds three miles away from their own farms (like at a Farmer's Market or Swap Meet) and allows the Sec. of Agriculture to dictate what can and cannot be grown in the state. Bought and paid for lobbyists for Monsanto, Dow etc. Fucking sellouts. There aren't many links on this news and the one I wanted to post is banned at GLP, but this link below talks about the law. [link to www.organicconsumers.org (secure)] And we are just now hearing about this??? SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA - In support of small farmers and consumers the California Grange will sponsor Seed Freedom Day on July 1, 2015. Seed Freedom Day will celebrate our agricultural heritage and raise objections to an amendment to California’s “Seed Law”, enacted by state legislators last August. California Assembly Bill 2470 (AB2470) is bad law that seriously impairs the right of farmers to share and sell their seeds, gives the Secretary of Agriculture authority to decide what can and cannot be grown in California counties and cities, and gives corporations the same legal rights and protections as people. “Farmers and consumers should be angry. AB2470 is dangerous law,” warns California Grange President Bob McFarland. [link to leginfo.legislature.ca.gov (secure)] Assembly Bill No. 2470 CHAPTER 294 An act to amend Sections 52256.5, 52288, 52332, and 52452 of, and to add Section 52334 to, the Food and Agricultural Code, relating to seed. [ Approved by Governor August 25, 2014. Filed with Secretary of State August 25, 2014. ] LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST AB 2470, Salas. California Seed Law. Existing law, the California Seed Law, regulates seed sold in California, and requires each container of agricultural seed that is for sale or sold within this state for sowing purposes to be labeled, as specified, unless the sale is an occasional sale of seed grain by the producer of the seed grain to his neighbor for use by the purchaser within the county of production. Existing law defines “person” for purposes of the California Seed Law to mean an individual, partnership, trust association, cooperative association, or any other business unit or organization. This bill would clarify that definition of “person” to include corporations. The bill would also clarify the term “neighbor” for purposes of the labeling requirements specified above to mean a person who lives in close proximity, not to exceed 3 miles, to another. The bill would revise a statement of legislative intent to include ensuring that the amount of seed represented on a tag or label is properly identified. Existing law authorizes the Secretary of Food and Agriculture, by regulation, to adopt a list of plants and crops that the secretary finds are or may be grown in this state from agricultural or vegetable seed. This bill would instead authorize the secretary, by regulation, to adopt a list of plants and crops that the secretary finds are or may be grown in this state. The bill would also prohibit a city, county, or district, including a charter city or county, from adopting or enforcing an ordinance on or after January 1, 2015, that regulates plants, crops, or seeds without the consent of the secretary. The bill would make other nonsubstantive changes. Chugiakian |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 68123803 Germany 10/14/2015 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you sound stupid as fuck on this thread Hey shill... The state senate currently consists of 26 Democrats and 14 Republicans, and the Assembly consists of 52 Democrats and 28 Republicans. Except for the period from 1995 to 1996, the Assembly has been in Democratic hands since the 1970 election (even while the governor's office has gone back and forth between Republicans and Democrats). The Senate has been in Democratic hands continuously since 1970. [link to www.leginfo.ca.gov] [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
thinking... User ID: 59995817 United States 10/15/2015 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking at Google it seems this was signed into law last year. So far, it doesn't interfere with locally passed anti GMO laws but it sure does target ordinary farmers on being able to trade and sell seeds. In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
Copperhead User ID: 70502012 United States 10/15/2015 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is unconstituional, i would not follow it. it's all about money and control Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30191924 No one should follow the law. It's doubtful the police will enforce it, but you know that the greedy Monsanto fuckers will do whatever they can to take regular famers to court for selling their seeds at Farmer's Markets etc. They want total control over food production and all seeds patented so they can profit from them. It will be enforced, believe me. About 20 years ago or so before "Terminator" genes were put into the mix they were going after farmers who were holding back some of their patented soybeans after harvest to plant the next year. They have their own security type agents that will find you and take you to court. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 68123803 Germany 10/15/2015 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at the seed law that liberal California Democrats just passed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68123803 It prevents farmers from selling and sharing their seeds three miles away from their own farms (like at a Farmer's Market or Swap Meet) and allows the Sec. of Agriculture to dictate what can and cannot be grown in the state. Bought and paid for lobbyists for Monsanto, Dow etc. Fucking sellouts. There aren't many links on this news and the one I wanted to post is banned at GLP, but this link below talks about the law. [link to www.organicconsumers.org (secure)] And we are just now hearing about this??? SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA - In support of small farmers and consumers the California Grange will sponsor Seed Freedom Day on July 1, 2015. Seed Freedom Day will celebrate our agricultural heritage and raise objections to an amendment to California’s “Seed Law”, enacted by state legislators last August. California Assembly Bill 2470 (AB2470) is bad law that seriously impairs the right of farmers to share and sell their seeds, gives the Secretary of Agriculture authority to decide what can and cannot be grown in California counties and cities, and gives corporations the same legal rights and protections as people. “Farmers and consumers should be angry. AB2470 is dangerous law,” warns California Grange President Bob McFarland. [link to leginfo.legislature.ca.gov (secure)] Assembly Bill No. 2470 CHAPTER 294 An act to amend Sections 52256.5, 52288, 52332, and 52452 of, and to add Section 52334 to, the Food and Agricultural Code, relating to seed. [ Approved by Governor August 25, 2014. Filed with Secretary of State August 25, 2014. ] LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST AB 2470, Salas. California Seed Law. Existing law, the California Seed Law, regulates seed sold in California, and requires each container of agricultural seed that is for sale or sold within this state for sowing purposes to be labeled, as specified, unless the sale is an occasional sale of seed grain by the producer of the seed grain to his neighbor for use by the purchaser within the county of production. Existing law defines “person” for purposes of the California Seed Law to mean an individual, partnership, trust association, cooperative association, or any other business unit or organization. This bill would clarify that definition of “person” to include corporations. The bill would also clarify the term “neighbor” for purposes of the labeling requirements specified above to mean a person who lives in close proximity, not to exceed 3 miles, to another. The bill would revise a statement of legislative intent to include ensuring that the amount of seed represented on a tag or label is properly identified. Existing law authorizes the Secretary of Food and Agriculture, by regulation, to adopt a list of plants and crops that the secretary finds are or may be grown in this state from agricultural or vegetable seed. This bill would instead authorize the secretary, by regulation, to adopt a list of plants and crops that the secretary finds are or may be grown in this state. The bill would also prohibit a city, county, or district, including a charter city or county, from adopting or enforcing an ordinance on or after January 1, 2015, that regulates plants, crops, or seeds without the consent of the secretary. The bill would make other nonsubstantive changes. I had to hear about it at a Neil Young concert. His new album Promise of the Real is all about fascist corporate control/Monsanto. They are intentionally keeping the news that this law passed off MSM. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70430312 United States 10/15/2015 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is old hat, seeders lobby have been chiseling on this for generations, its not just Monsanto....its a union filth kinda thing Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70430312 Yes, we all know they have been playing dirty for generations, but this LAW is the first of its kind to be passed in California so it IS newsworthy. there are more than a few states that have been doing this for a very long time with codes, rules and standards set by BS regulatory agencies including cali for a long time..no one cared because it was only dumb farmers being fucked..they didn't care for so long the legislators were emboldened enough to make it law of the whole state...and it just coincidentally comes when there is sea change of people trying to go back to nature and provide for themselves..and as I mentioned..the story of the very few seeders unions or collectives is very telling research and it goes back along ways for any who care to know that it aint just big corporate ag doing this |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69692969 United States 10/15/2015 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not new.. Monsanto forces people to use their seeds.. If you get a farm loan and don't, they can comfiscate your farm. That's why they're gmo'd not because of nutrients, or bug resistant.. So they can test if the plants are theirs. .. This has spread to other countries as well, it's one of the most corrupt businesses on the plant. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 68123803 Germany 10/15/2015 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking at Google it seems this was signed into law last year. So far, it doesn't interfere with locally passed anti GMO laws but it sure does target ordinary farmers on being able to trade and sell seeds. Quoting: thinking... I can't find much information on it, but it looks like the law was passed last year and there were amendments to it that went into effect on Jan 1, 2015. [link to seedfreedom.info] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70505278 United States 10/15/2015 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol. Sounds like an opportunity to start a commerce chain. Everyone who is interested plays middle man with a 3 miles radius. Nothing is paid to the middleman, just a way to bypass the laws. I'm sure people would gladly do it just to eff with the system. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57366417 United States 10/15/2015 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is what they did with pot - and it flourished so much so that they are desperately trying to legalize it so they can get a piece of what they lost control of by outlawing it ... now it's seeds - most people I know bought one set of organic heirloom seeds and just keep harvesting the seeds from the bounty produced - trade them with friends and neighbors - you see around here the grocery store fruits and veggies all taste like they've been sitting on a frozen truck for days and then they are way overpriced at that ... everyone grows there own - lives self sufficient now the frozen shipped in food will be controlled by hybrid seeds full of chemicals - I think California just made growing your own food and harvesting the seeds the new in thing to do ... they'll reverse it when sales decline do a taste test with a home grown veggie vs a store bought one you'll get what's up |
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LADY ENIGMA User ID: 35426176 United States 10/15/2015 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not new.. Monsanto forces people to use their seeds.. If you get a farm loan and don't, they can comfiscate your farm. That's why they're gmo'd not because of nutrients, or bug resistant.. So they can test if the plants are theirs. .. This has spread to other countries as well, it's one of the most corrupt businesses on the plant. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69692969 Monsanto is the most corrupt corporation on this planet. ENIGMA |
Bush Master User ID: 63584898 United States 10/15/2015 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at the seed law that liberal California Democrats just passed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68123803 It prevents farmers from selling and sharing their seeds three miles away from their own farms (like at a Farmer's Market or Swap Meet) and allows the Sec. of Agriculture to dictate what can and cannot be grown in the state. Bought and paid for lobbyists for Monsanto, Dow etc. Fucking sellouts. There aren't many links on this news and the one I wanted to post is banned at GLP, but this link below talks about the law. [link to www.organicconsumers.org (secure)] Fuck monsatin |
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TwoInThePink User ID: 70412164 United States 10/15/2015 02:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fucking Bullshit. I had a feeling we would be seeing more BS from Monsanto soon. Still on the lookout for this: Thread: Drones may save the planet by bombing it with seed pods - Watch for Monsanto! My penis extension can save my life. What can yours do? One in the stink. |
Daggo User ID: 68822618 United States 10/15/2015 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is unconstituional, i would not follow it. it's all about money and control Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30191924 No one should follow the law. It's doubtful the police will enforce it, but you know that the greedy Monsanto fuckers will do whatever they can to take regular famers to court for selling their seeds at Farmer's Markets etc. They want total control over food production and all seeds patented so they can profit from them. LoL not enforce it? I'm guessing you don't know Monsanto's track record too well. They will send people out to farms around the farmers who purchases their seeds to their neighbors farms who won't, take samples of said produce after pollination and seeding growth has occurred, where there's no doubt theres been some cross pollination due to the farms being so close and and charge the farmers with theft and all kinds of patent violations and just plain evil liberal shit, have the farmers tried and jailed, clean out their bank accounts, and ultimately end up with the farmers farm due to the outrageous and draconian fines just so they can get another farm on the Corporate roster and keep all that natural unmodified produce out of the grocery store that's so bad for you. Last Edited by Daggo on 10/15/2015 02:47 AM :Pirate Flag: 8-14-2018 The day Free Speech died in America |
Coppercoal User ID: 69484035 United States 10/15/2015 02:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at the seed law that liberal California Democrats just passed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68123803 It prevents farmers from selling and sharing their seeds three miles away from their own farms (like at a Farmer's Market or Swap Meet) and allows the Sec. of Agriculture to dictate what can and cannot be grown in the state. Bought and paid for lobbyists for Monsanto, Dow etc. Fucking sellouts. There aren't many links on this news and the one I wanted to post is banned at GLP, but this link below talks about the law. [link to www.organicconsumers.org (secure)] I see communism is alive and well in California. The state owns all the farms! The people are the heroes now, behemoth pulls the peasants' plow. The big shots tried to hold it back; Fools tried to wish it away The hopeful depend on a world without end; Whatever the hopeless may say |
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