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WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary

 
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WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
I am beginning to think that the 6 million is based on some sort of esoteric numerology significant to Jewish culture. I cannot see any credible evidence anywhere to support this and most significant of all, it appears in 1941 in some Zionist writings and also "6 million" was used before the Russian Bolshevic revolution by anti-Czarist Jewish propaganda to show the magnitude of the plight of Jews under the Czar.

So it seems like a bit of a history with that magic 6 million number and it's not based on fact but something else.

So, does anyone on GLP know of a substantiated source for this figure?
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
E.g. A list of the names.
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
who gives a fuck. Hitler and his regime were monsters who delighted in human suffering.

oh wait, you probably don't consider jews to be human right?

get help you pig.
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
The six million figure has been debunked by many credible sources . . . and even if true, the Russians lost more than that and the over all loss in WWII was over fifty million . . . it's interesting what a industry has been made with this figure and the club that it has become to whack anyone who may question the policies of Israel.....
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
The HOLOHOAX has become a religion with all the accompanying dogma!
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
The germans murdered jews no doubt. It doesn't really matter how many. The question is why?
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
who gives a fuck.
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You dont give a fuck? OK, I'm calling ADL! shitstir2
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jews jews jews always only the jews everyone and their dog thinks it was only the jews that where killed and only believe it was the jews that mettered, the genodide in africa and darfur is far worse, do people give a shit about , no they dont.
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
nobody cares if it was six million or four million. It was what the Nazis did to people. Are you trying to say that if the actual number was exagerated by the press, that makes the Nazi's crimes excuseable?

Do you hate jews? if so, why not just discuss that instead? you grab onto an unprovable and totally irrelevant "fact" because you know the rest of it, the entire story about the hohocaust is so horrible and unimaginable to people that you'd be treated like a shitburger just for trying to excuse or minimize it.

You are a shitburger aren't you?
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The rich Jewish bankers & Jewish industry leaders abused the workers by making them work hard and paying little in wages, they have been reknown for it. Thats why the other ethnicity Germans hated the Jews, because of their pernicious ways.
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
Cause it's only fulfilled with sixes.

Btw Israel, MOSSAD count the letters here.
And do not forget the six pointed star.
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
The germans murdered jews no doubt. It doesn't really matter how many. The question is why?
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I would agree with you. Any racist murders are bad. I just would like to see what the rationale is behind the 6 million number. The posters who have replied here have all made very valubale comments. Thank you.
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
Cause it's only fulfilled with sixes.

Btw Israel, MOSSAD count the letters here.
And do not forget the six pointed star.
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WOAH!

Wow!

I am amazed that this isn't better public knowledge.
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
60 million in total, probably more

whats six got to do with anything?

why does that demographic take precedence?

confusing
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74711
you gotta be a Jew. I don't know of anyone else who would write with quite the same level of hate and hysteria.

The worst racists I ever knew were Jews toward Blacks.
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
Even bar codes have useless sixes in between as separators. It's the longer lines and they could have used just any other number, letter or sign to inplement that but no, it had to be three sixes there too.

Now this is a real beast.
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
Cause it's only fulfilled with sixes.

Btw Israel, MOSSAD count the letters here.
And do not forget the six pointed star.
 Quoting: Dil 51202


The New Torture Law written by the Jewish NeoCons has the number: 6166. Occultic/Kabbalistic in significance?
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Its interesting that a similar 6 million figure is used in WW1 propaganda to emphasise the plight of jews
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
nobody cares if it was six million or four million. It was what the Nazis did to people. Are you trying to say that if the actual number was exagerated by the press, that makes the Nazi's crimes excuseable?

Do you hate jews? if so, why not just discuss that instead? you grab onto an unprovable and totally irrelevant "fact" because you know the rest of it, the entire story about the hohocaust is so horrible and unimaginable to people that you'd be treated like a shitburger just for trying to excuse or minimize it.

You are a shitburger aren't you?
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Dude... you are so way off the mark. Like... have you READ any of the posts?

The significance of the number is made by Jewish interests, no-one else. I started trying to find the facts when I discovered that historians who question the number lose their jobs at best, but have even been jailed!

Jailed, buddy. For asking a question.

So, that got me thinking: What are "they", as in the people who created this persecution of those who ask questions, afraid of? And over and over again, it has been the 6 million figure that seems to be disputed and is common to the persecution of those who ask questions.

So this has to be a very special number.

Since when is asking questions a crime?

Get it?
There are hugely powerful interests that go a very long way and have no limits to which they will go in order to stop this number from being questioned.

Which begs the question: Why? What are they scared of?

And that, in turn, begs the question: Where this this number come from.

So just hold up there, buddy. It's those Jewish interests you should be attacking like that if you are so enraged about the significance of this number.

And, to be blunt, I agree with your sentiment. Only applied to the RIGHT people. I think it's diabolic that the NUMBER of victims is important. It's the CRIME that is important. Now how many suffered.
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
I am not so into that stuff but probably it's a kabballistic number magic.
Take the famous 144.000 chosen ones from the bible eg:
Divide 144.000 by 6 three times in a row and you'll get 666,666 periodic!!!!
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So 666,666 periodic multiplied with 6 three times (666,666...*6*6*6) makes 144.000!!!!

Guess what that number can be broken down into sixes only.
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74711
you gotta be a Jew. I don't know of anyone else who would write with quite the same level of hate and hysteria.

The worst racists I ever knew were Jews toward Blacks.
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nope, Irish Catholic asshole... and I hate Nazis and pricks who take pleasure in human suffering. Hitler murdered people, ordinary people, women and children, and he and his fellow perverts took pleasure in it. It's the sickest thing our world has ever had to face in modern times.

you really should get help. I'm serious. What you espouse is worse than Hastert and Foley's homosexual pedophilia. You have a disease that can be cured but you need to seek help and try to connect with whatever human spirit is left buried inside you.
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Shortly after the war, Churchill, Roosevelt and De Gaulle all published memoirs.
And yet not one of them so much as mentioned any 'holocaust' any gas chambers, or any program by the Nazis to exterminate the jews.

The simple question is, how come?...

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No doubt that the nazis murdered jews and a lot of others like catholics, roma, communists but we are questioning why it always has to be six here.
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
**The significance of the number is made by Jewish interests, no-one else. **

horseshit

It's ALWAYS brought up by assholes like you. I never hear it mentioned by jews or any other normal people. It's pricks like you that love Hitler that constantly bring up that number!

Only Nazis and white supremacist bed wetter assholes EVER bring up that number and I'm sick and tired of it beiong thrown into the discussion CONSTANTLY by pricks who only want to confuse other people.

Hitler and the Third Reich murdered innocent women and children! They did unspeakable horrors to living people! They tortured, starved and mutilated millions of people FOR KICKS!

you are one sick motherfucker.

I'm done... go fuck yourself.
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No doubt that the nazis murdered jews and a lot of others like catholics, roma, communists but we are questioning why it always has to be six here.
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Sorry Dil, but its far from clear that there was ANY orchestrated policy of murder by the nazi armed forces.

And its dangerous and lazy to just assume that it is so because 'evferbody knows'.
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
The New Torture Law written by the Jewish NeoCons has the number: 6166. Occultic/Kabbalistic in significance?
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Yep you named it and it also has to do with sex of course, means they corrupted sex to a high degree. Look at all the gay politicians eg.
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
**The significance of the number is made by Jewish interests, no-one else. **

horseshit

It's ALWAYS brought up by assholes like you. I never hear it mentioned by jews or any other normal people. It's pricks like you that love Hitler that constantly bring up that number!

Only Nazis and white supremacist bed wetter assholes EVER bring up that number and I'm sick and tired of it beiong thrown into the discussion CONSTANTLY by pricks who only want to confuse other people.

Hitler and the Third Reich murdered innocent women and children! They did unspeakable horrors to living people! They tortured, starved and mutilated millions of people FOR KICKS!

you are one sick motherfucker.

I'm done... go fuck yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74711


You are one angry dude, but do you ever let facts get in the way of your ranting?

Did you know for instance, that until Churchilll took over, war was prosecuted under a series of agreed rules: the Geneva conventions.
The very DAY Churchill took over, the 'phoney war' vanished in the mist when he ordered the RAF to begin bombing civillian target as ht eoverture to his 'total war'.

Try educating yourself instead of ranting about regurgitated propaganda
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
Hitler and the Third Reich murdered innocent women and children! They did unspeakable horrors to living people! They tortured, starved and mutilated millions of people FOR KICKS!
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So did the soviet joos but that didnt stop the joo infested anglo-saxon democracies from getting into an alliance with the USSR.
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
Sorry Dil, but its far from clear that there was ANY orchestrated policy of murder by the nazi armed forces.

And its dangerous and lazy to just assume that it is so because 'evferbody knows'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74035


Don't forget that many were immediately shot in Eastern Europe and the SU when caught so by far not all died in the camps.
Hitler wasn't a good guy and that makes the revelation of the real dead numbers even more difficult.
Close countings come to a 1,5 million figure, sounds much more realistic than the six million and still 1.5 million too many killed.
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Re: WHere did the 6 million figure come from? It doesn't appear in any credible source document. Seems completely arbitrary
Sorry Dil, but its far from clear that there was ANY orchestrated policy of murder by the nazi armed forces.

And its dangerous and lazy to just assume that it is so because 'evferbody knows'.


Don't forget that many were immediately shot in Eastern Europe and the SU when caught so by far not all died in the camps.
Hitler wasn't a good guy and that makes the revelation of the real dead numbers even more difficult.
Close countings come to a 1,5 million figure, sounds much more realistic than the six million and still 1.5 million too many killed.
 Quoting: Dil 51202


1 is too many, but thats not the issue.
The issue is whether we were and continue to be, misled by a series of lies so huge its almost impossible to comprehend.

There is very compelling evidence that those who dies in the camps did so as a result of privation and disease caused, in a large part, by the allies themsleves in their bombing campaign.

Whether the inmates should have been in the camps, is another issue again, but cannot be considered in isolation of the fact that jews declared war on germany very publicly and with no small effect in 1933, thereby declaring themsleves to be 'enemy combatants' within their host country.





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