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Do you understand why Obama says ISIL when everyone else says ISIS? It is deliberate, and here's why

 
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Do you understand why Obama says ISIL when everyone else says ISIS? It is deliberate, and here's why
The Coded Message Obama Delivers When He Says ISIL Instead Of ISIS


ISIL stands for the Islamic State of Iraq and Levant. Now, to us Westerners we don’t really make much of a distinction, do we? No, honestly from our perspective its all about the same. But how would a Muslim living in the Middle East view it? Just what is the Levant anyway? Let’s take a look.

The geographical term LEVANT refers to a multi-nation region in the Middle East. It’s a land bridge between Turkey to the north and Egypt to the south. If you look on a map, however, in the near exact middle of the nations that comprise the Levant, guess what you see? Come on, guess!

It’s Israel.

When Barack Obama refers over and over to the Islamic State as ISIL, he is sending a message to Muslims all over the Middle East that he personally does not recognize Israel as a sovereign nation, but as territory belonging to the Islamic State.

Now you know why Obama says that he has no plan, no goal, and no stated aim for dealing with ISIS. But he does have a plan, and it’s a really nasty, diabolical one. Obama’s plan is to drag his feet for as long as he can, doing only the bare minimum that Congress forces him to do. His “plan”to buy ISIS as much time as possible to make as many gains as they can.

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The ultimate goal is the destruction of Israel.

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old news...
I remember talking to my friends about this when ISIS became a thing, and that was how long?

and even then it was old news... everything is about Israel, read the bible.
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old news...
I remember talking to my friends about this when ISIS became a thing, and that was how long?

and even then it was old news... everything is about Israel, read the bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70822039


Israel is any man, woman or child who has Jesus as Savior and keeps His commandments.

They are His bride. They are His Israel.

The country means nothing. Israel abandon their covenant. Rejected every prophet and even their Messiah.

Commandment keeping Christians = Israel
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Re: Do you understand why Obama says ISIL when everyone else says ISIS? It is deliberate, and here's why
old news...
I remember talking to my friends about this when ISIS became a thing, and that was how long?

and even then it was old news... everything is about Israel, read the bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70822039


Israel is any man, woman or child who has Jesus as Savior and keeps His commandment.

They are His bride. They are His Israel.

The country means nothing. Israel abandon their covenant. Rejected every prophet and even their Messiah.

Commandment keeping Christians = Israel
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no.

but I don't care what you believe.
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Re: Do you understand why Obama says ISIL when everyone else says ISIS? It is deliberate, and here's why
You're reading far, far, far too much into it.

Levant is just the English word for the near-east coastal region south of Turkey and north of Egypt.

When people say ISIS, they're using the Arabic word for the Levant, which is "al-Sham" or something like that.

It's not different than if you were to say "North Africa" and someone else said "Mahgreb". Or Persia/Iran, France/Gaul, Nordic countries/Scandinavia.
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thanks for that OP

very informative.

now we know then, the end really is upon us
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You're reading far, far, far too much into it.

Levant is just the English word for the near-east coastal region south of Turkey and north of Egypt.

When people say ISIS, they're using the Arabic word for the Levant, which is "al-Sham" or something like that.

It's not different than if you were to say "North Africa" and someone else said "Mahgreb". Or Persia/Iran, France/Gaul, Nordic countries/Scandinavia.
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but he's the 'most important man on the planet', so HIM saying it DOES mean something, when everyone else is saying isiS
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You're reading far, far, far too much into it.

Levant is just the English word for the near-east coastal region south of Turkey and north of Egypt.

When people say ISIS, they're using the Arabic word for the Levant, which is "al-Sham" or something like that.

It's not different than if you were to say "North Africa" and someone else said "Mahgreb". Or Persia/Iran, France/Gaul, Nordic countries/Scandinavia.
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but he's the 'most important man on the planet', so HIM saying it DOES mean something, when everyone else is saying isiS
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Maybe he's just confused as to why people keep using the Arabic term in the acronym when addressing an English speaking audience.
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old news...
I remember talking to my friends about this when ISIS became a thing, and that was how long?

and even then it was old news... everything is about Israel, read the bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70822039


Israel is any man, woman or child who has Jesus as Savior and keeps His commandment.

They are His bride. They are His Israel.

The country means nothing. Israel abandon their covenant. Rejected every prophet and even their Messiah.

Commandment keeping Christians = Israel
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you are correct
all he knows is that he is muslim and his interests and motivations rest there
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old news...
I remember talking to my friends about this when ISIS became a thing, and that was how long?

and even then it was old news... everything is about Israel, read the bible.
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no, it isnt new news
its now news

and every single person on the planet should already have realized this years ago
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old news...
I remember talking to my friends about this when ISIS became a thing, and that was how long?

and even then it was old news... everything is about Israel, read the bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70822039


Israel is any man, woman or child who has Jesus as Savior and keeps His commandment.

They are His bride. They are His Israel.

The country means nothing. Israel abandon their covenant. Rejected every prophet and even their Messiah.

Commandment keeping Christians = Israel
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no.

but I don't care what you believe.
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You didn't care what your Messiah said either. Or His prophets.

And here we are.

You will have your messiah soon. Make no doubt. He will be everything you asked for...
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welcome to the great tribulation

if this isn't waking you up, nothing will
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you are spot on with the levant being the 'l' but there is also an intelligence contractor that used to be called ISIS but has since dropped the first 'i' from the acronym and is going by SIS now. [link to public.isishq.com (secure)] but their web domain is still "isishq".com.

at least 75% of it is Obama claiming Israel in the caliphate and about 25% is him not wanting to offend a government contractor that may be able to cause harm to his agenda.

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you are spot on with the levant being the 'l' but there is also an intelligence contractor that used to be called ISIS but has since dropped the first 'i' from the accronym and is going by SIS now. [link to public.isishq.com (secure)] but their web domain is still "isishq".com.

at least 75% of it is Obama claiming Israel in the caliphate and about 25% is him not wanting to offend a government contractor that may be able to cause harm to his agenda.
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But Lebanon and coastal Syria are also part of the Levant. The Levant isn't just the jewish-colonial adventure in the rightful territory of Christendom.

And ISIS are actively waging war in Syria, often against Shia fighters from Lebanon.
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You're reading far, far, far too much into it.

Levant is just the English word for the near-east coastal region south of Turkey and north of Egypt.

When people say ISIS, they're using the Arabic word for the Levant, which is "al-Sham" or something like that.

It's not different than if you were to say "North Africa" and someone else said "Mahgreb". Or Persia/Iran, France/Gaul, Nordic countries/Scandinavia.
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no, the final 's' was not from "al-sham". the acronym originally was Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).
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you are spot on with the levant being the 'l' but there is also an intelligence contractor that used to be called ISIS but has since dropped the first 'i' from the accronym and is going by SIS now. [link to public.isishq.com (secure)] but their web domain is still "isishq".com.

at least 75% of it is Obama claiming Israel in the caliphate and about 25% is him not wanting to offend a government contractor that may be able to cause harm to his agenda.
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But Lebanon and coastal Syria are also part of the Levant. The Levant isn't just the jewish-colonial adventure in the rightful territory of Christendom.

And ISIS are actively waging war in Syria, often against Shia fighters from Lebanon.
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all to be included in the caliphate.

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now maybe you will understand this prophecy


Revelation! 10 kings, 10 horns of the beast Given no Kingdom as of yet?
"The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13T hey have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. 14 They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

I GIVE YOU 10 KINGS WHO HAVE RECEIVED NO KINGDOM AS OF YET!
The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.


ISIL
AL QAIDA
AL NUSRA
AL SHABAAB
MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
BOKO HARAM
HAMAS
HEZBOLLAH
AL-AQSA MARTYRS BRIGADE
PALESTINE LIBERATION FRONT


TEN KINGS WHO HAVE NO KINGDOM AS OF YET BUT WERE PROMISED ONE IN A MEETING MADE IN ONE HOUR WITH THE BEAST..

OBAMA!
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now maybe you will understand this prophecy


Revelation! 10 kings, 10 horns of the beast Given no Kingdom as of yet?
"The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13T hey have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. 14 They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

I GIVE YOU 10 KINGS WHO HAVE RECEIVED NO KINGDOM AS OF YET!
The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.


ISIL
AL QAIDA
AL NUSRA
AL SHABAAB
MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
BOKO HARAM
HAMAS
HEZBOLLAH
AL-AQSA MARTYRS BRIGADE
PALESTINE LIBERATION FRONT


TEN KINGS WHO HAVE NO KINGDOM AS OF YET BUT WERE PROMISED ONE IN A MEETING MADE IN ONE HOUR WITH THE BEAST..

OBAMA!
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I give you ISIL in the Bible!
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i have to step out for a short bit, but i wanted to get this discussion generating
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now maybe you will understand this prophecy


Revelation! 10 kings, 10 horns of the beast Given no Kingdom as of yet?
"The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13T hey have one purpose and will give their power and authority to the beast. 14 They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings—and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.”

I GIVE YOU 10 KINGS WHO HAVE RECEIVED NO KINGDOM AS OF YET!
The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.


ISIL
AL QAIDA
AL NUSRA
AL SHABAAB
MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
BOKO HARAM
HAMAS
HEZBOLLAH
AL-AQSA MARTYRS BRIGADE
PALESTINE LIBERATION FRONT


TEN KINGS WHO HAVE NO KINGDOM AS OF YET BUT WERE PROMISED ONE IN A MEETING MADE IN ONE HOUR WITH THE BEAST..

OBAMA!
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I give you ISIL in the Bible!
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Beasts are nations in prophecy. Not men.

Obama is just a puppet for the Vatican.

Nothing more. Nothing less.
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Best deduction for why he calls it ISIL that I've heard.

When everyone else calls it one thing, and only one person (or one administration) deviates, there must be a conscious reason for that deviation. Else, why not just call it ISIS like everyone else?

I think using "Levant" instead of "Syria" is, indeed, worthy of note. But maybe for a different reason that you stated...

Could it be that Obama is trying to subtly tell Americans and the world that ISIS/ISIL is a creation of Israel, as so many have posted about (with evidence)? And might he be dragging his feet on confronting ISIS/ISIL militarily because he knows that's what the neocons (in the U.S. and Israel) and the military industrial complex want?
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old news...
I remember talking to my friends about this when ISIS became a thing, and that was how long?

and even then it was old news... everything is about Israel, read the bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70822039


Israel is any man, woman or child who has Jesus as Savior and keeps His commandment.

They are His bride. They are His Israel.

The country means nothing. Israel abandon their covenant. Rejected every prophet and even their Messiah.

Commandment keeping Christians = Israel
 Quoting: Itiswhatitisheh


yep somehow mainstream christians buy into the baloney of ISrealites in the current geographical region called Israel as 'being the chosen'. Perhaps they missed revelation chap 2 verse 9......

I know the blasphemy of those that say they are jews but are liars and impostors, and are of the synagogue of satan....
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Israel is any man, woman or child who has Jesus as Savior and keeps His commandment.

They are His bride. They are His Israel.

The country means nothing. Israel abandon their covenant. Rejected every prophet and even their Messiah.

Commandment keeping Christians = Israel

If it were not possible for us to be commandment-keepers, then why does He make the obedience to His
commandments the proof that we love Him?

John 14 : 15
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John wrote what the new covenant commandments are:

“If you love me, you will obey my commandments.
(John 14:15)

And now I give you a new commandment: love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 If you have love for one another, then everyone will know that you are my disciples.”
(John 13:34)

My commandment is this: love one another, just as I love you.
(John 15:12)

What he commands is that we believe in his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as Christ commanded us.
(1 John 3:23)

The bible doesn't say anywhere that Christians become Israel. In fact it is clear that Israel is separate because they reject Jesus.


25 There is a secret truth, my friends, which I want you to know, for it will keep you from thinking how wise you are. It is that the stubbornness of the people of Israel is not permanent, but will last only until the complete number of Gentiles comes to God. 26 And this is how all Israel will be saved. As the scripture says,

“The Savior will come from Zion and remove all wickedness from the descendants of Jacob. I will make this covenant with them when I take away their sins.”
(Romans 11:25-27)

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Note the distinction between Israel and Gentiles. The definition of Gentile is "not Israel".
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Thank you Salt, didn't know and not surprised
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Israel is any man, woman or child who has Jesus as Savior and keeps His commandment.

They are His bride. They are His Israel.

The country means nothing. Israel abandon their covenant. Rejected every prophet and even their Messiah.

Commandment keeping Christians = Israel

If it were not possible for us to be commandment-keepers, then why does He make the obedience to His
commandments the proof that we love Him?

John 14 : 15
 Quoting: Itiswhatitisheh


John wrote what the new covenant commandments are:

“If you love me, you will obey my commandments.
(John 14:15)

And now I give you a new commandment: love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 If you have love for one another, then everyone will know that you are my disciples.”
(John 13:34)

My commandment is this: love one another, just as I love you.
(John 15:12)

What he commands is that we believe in his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as Christ commanded us.
(1 John 3:23)

The bible doesn't say anywhere that Christians become Israel. In fact it is clear that Israel is separate because they reject Jesus.


25 There is a secret truth, my friends, which I want you to know, for it will keep you from thinking how wise you are. It is that the stubbornness of the people of Israel is not permanent, but will last only until the complete number of Gentiles comes to God. 26 And this is how all Israel will be saved. As the scripture says,

“The Savior will come from Zion and remove all wickedness from the descendants of Jacob. I will make this covenant with them when I take away their sins.”
(Romans 11:25-27)

[link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)]

Note the distinction between Israel and Gentiles. The definition of Gentile is "not Israel".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70823438


In Jeremiah many many times God refers to Israel as His bride.

Seeing as though He does not want rocks and trees as His bride, He is obviously speaking about the people.

And seeing as the Hebrews have forsaken their covenant, and all promises associated with it, they are no longer His bride or "Israel"

Israel is any man, woman or child who has Jesus as Savior and keeps His commandments. Those commandments are found in Exodus 20. He condensed them into 2.


1 - 4 deal with mankinds love relationship with God.
5- 10 deal with mankinds love realtionship with each other.

Christ removed not 1 jot or title from the Law. (He also warns woe to them who teach as such)

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In Jeremiah many many times God refers to Israel as His bride.

Seeing as though He does not want rocks and trees as His bride, He is obviously speaking about the people.

And seeing as the Hebrews have forsaken their covenant, and all promises associated with it, they are no longer His bride or "Israel"

Israel is any man, woman or child who has Jesus as Savior and keeps His commandments. Those commandments are found in Exodus 20. He condensed them into 2.


1 - 4 deal with mankinds love relationship with God.
5- 10 deal with mankinds love realtionship with each other.

Christ removed not 1 jot or title from the Law. (He also warns woe to them who teach as such)
 Quoting: Itiswhatitisheh


Jesus did not change the old testament laws at all. There are a lot more old testament laws that just the ten commandments, as anybody can find out by reading all the laws in the first five books of the bible.

If God just wanted everybody to obey the ten commandments, why would Jesus give us new commandments?

“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
(John 13:34)


If God wanted everybody to be under the old covenant, why would Jesus give us a new covenant?

For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
(Matthew 26:28)


By speaking of a new covenant, God has made the first one old; and anything that becomes old and worn out will soon disappear.
(Hebrews 9:13)

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Why do you say that John 14:15 refers to the ten commandments? Read the surrounding chapters. In Chapter 13, Jesus gives us a new commandment, and in chapter 15, He repeats it. Why would John 14:15 not refer to the new covenant commandments?

And now I give you a new commandment: love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
(John 13:34)

“If you love me, you will obey my commandments.
(John 14:15)

My commandment is this: love one another, just as I love you.
(John 15:12)
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You're reading far, far, far too much into it.

Levant is just the English word for the near-east coastal region south of Turkey and north of Egypt.

When people say ISIS, they're using the Arabic word for the Levant, which is "al-Sham" or something like that.

It's not different than if you were to say "North Africa" and someone else said "Mahgreb". Or Persia/Iran, France/Gaul, Nordic countries/Scandinavia.
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OP is right, anything barry does is for his own enhancement.
as well as being evil.

The name in the Middle East is DAESH and they hate that name.

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In Jeremiah many many times God refers to Israel as His bride.

Seeing as though He does not want rocks and trees as His bride, He is obviously speaking about the people.

And seeing as the Hebrews have forsaken their covenant, and all promises associated with it, they are no longer His bride or "Israel"

Israel is any man, woman or child who has Jesus as Savior and keeps His commandments. Those commandments are found in Exodus 20. He condensed them into 2.


1 - 4 deal with mankinds love relationship with God.
5- 10 deal with mankinds love realtionship with each other.

Christ removed not 1 jot or title from the Law. (He also warns woe to them who teach as such)
 Quoting: Itiswhatitisheh


Jesus did not change the old testament laws at all. There are a lot more old testament laws that just the ten commandments, as anybody can find out by reading all the laws in the first five books of the bible.

If God just wanted everybody to obey the ten commandments, why would Jesus give us new commandments?

“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
(John 13:34)


If God wanted everybody to be under the old covenant, why would Jesus give us a new covenant?

For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
(Matthew 26:28)


By speaking of a new covenant, God has made the first one old; and anything that becomes old and worn out will soon disappear.
(Hebrews 9:13)

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Why do you say that John 14:15 refers to the ten commandments? Read the surrounding chapters. In Chapter 13, Jesus gives us a new commandment, and in chapter 15, He repeats it. Why would John 14:15 not refer to the new covenant commandments?

And now I give you a new commandment: love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
(John 13:34)

“If you love me, you will obey my commandments.
(John 14:15)

My commandment is this: love one another, just as I love you.
(John 15:12)
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Sound familiar?

Matthew 5 : 18 - 19

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven:



That "and shall teach men so" is speaking about you.
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Re: Do you understand why Obama says ISIL when everyone else says ISIS? It is deliberate, and here's why
you are spot on with the levant being the 'l' but there is also an intelligence contractor that used to be called ISIS but has since dropped the first 'i' from the accronym and is going by SIS now. [link to public.isishq.com (secure)] but their web domain is still "isishq".com.

at least 75% of it is Obama claiming Israel in the caliphate and about 25% is him not wanting to offend a government contractor that may be able to cause harm to his agenda.
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But Lebanon and coastal Syria are also part of the Levant. The Levant isn't just the jewish-colonial adventure in the rightful territory of Christendom.

And ISIS are actively waging war in Syria, often against Shia fighters from Lebanon.
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you are correct, but none of those countries are enemies of israel either and israel is the elephant in the room
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Re: Do you understand why Obama says ISIL when everyone else says ISIS? It is deliberate, and here's why
You're reading far, far, far too much into it.

Levant is just the English word for the near-east coastal region south of Turkey and north of Egypt.

When people say ISIS, they're using the Arabic word for the Levant, which is "al-Sham" or something like that.

It's not different than if you were to say "North Africa" and someone else said "Mahgreb". Or Persia/Iran, France/Gaul, Nordic countries/Scandinavia.
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OP is right, anything barry does is for his own enhancement.
as well as being evil.

The name in the Middle East is DAESH and they hate that name.
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its for the advancement of the progressive movement, aka Beast System

and obama constantly cries "humanity" but he will nuke an entire country of women and children if he thought it would advance the beast system to global domination
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Re: Do you understand why Obama says ISIL when everyone else says ISIS? It is deliberate, and here's why
Israel is any man, woman or child who has Jesus as Savior and keeps His commandment.

They are His bride. They are His Israel.

The country means nothing. Israel abandon their covenant. Rejected every prophet and even their Messiah.

Commandment keeping Christians = Israel

If it were not possible for us to be commandment-keepers, then why does He make the obedience to His
commandments the proof that we love Him?

John 14 : 15
 Quoting: Itiswhatitisheh


John wrote what the new covenant commandments are:

“If you love me, you will obey my commandments.
(John 14:15)

And now I give you a new commandment: love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 If you have love for one another, then everyone will know that you are my disciples.”
(John 13:34)

My commandment is this: love one another, just as I love you.
(John 15:12)

What he commands is that we believe in his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as Christ commanded us.
(1 John 3:23)

The bible doesn't say anywhere that Christians become Israel. In fact it is clear that Israel is separate because they reject Jesus.


25 There is a secret truth, my friends, which I want you to know, for it will keep you from thinking how wise you are. It is that the stubbornness of the people of Israel is not permanent, but will last only until the complete number of Gentiles comes to God. 26 And this is how all Israel will be saved. As the scripture says,

“The Savior will come from Zion and remove all wickedness from the descendants of Jacob. I will make this covenant with them when I take away their sins.”
(Romans 11:25-27)

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Note the distinction between Israel and Gentiles. The definition of Gentile is "not Israel".
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In Jeremiah many many times God refers to Israel as His bride.

Seeing as though He does not want rocks and trees as His bride, He is obviously speaking about the people.

And seeing as the Hebrews have forsaken their covenant, and all promises associated with it, they are no longer His bride or "Israel"

Israel is any man, woman or child who has Jesus as Savior and keeps His commandments. Those commandments are found in Exodus 20. He condensed them into 2.


1 - 4 deal with mankinds love relationship with God.
5- 10 deal with mankinds love realtionship with each other.

Christ removed not 1 jot or title from the Law. (He also warns woe to them who teach as such)


 Quoting: Itiswhatitisheh


Am I saved by my adherence to the Ten Commandments or Jesus shed blood on the cross? Or both?





GLP