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Fhirinne User ID: 64068588 United Kingdom 01/06/2016 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My only advice is, you will not find illumination with false light. Last Edited by Fhirinne on 01/06/2016 04:19 PM You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1665246 United States 01/06/2016 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Real FreeMasons dont go around bragging about who they are, so if someone does claim to be one here, chances are they are full of crap Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1229012 I figured this as much, but was hoping that even a lurking member would see someone seeking light and encourage them on the correct means of obtaining it. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1665246 United States 01/06/2016 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My only advice and take it or leave it is: you will not find illumination with false light. Quoting: Fhirinne I hear alot of the anti-masonry arguments, but on the same token that is only seeing one side of the coin. To some, the global elite are enslaving us... to others, we are savage selfish beasts who without the authoritive oversight of TPTB would have destroyed themselves long ago, if they ever got out of mud-huts chucking spears. In the duality of life, its easy for some tot cast judgment yet difficult for others to accept it. I myself respect a strive for excellence provided one adheres to morals and ethics in doing so, this is why I believe masonry can offer my the support I seek and wish to contribute to. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4473716 New Zealand 01/06/2016 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are so many historical and factual errors in the information they receive that they're as in the dark or even more so than the average person. I suspect that if you get to 33 then you start to get inklings of accuracy but even then.... |
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johnnyp User ID: 65720377 Sweden 01/06/2016 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You will never get any illumination by joining the Masons. You will probably not make it past Master mason. Most stay at that degree. Being an ignorant blue mason. What you might gain is social favours. Easier to get a job and stuff like that. But you will not gain any actual spiritual insight. You can download and read Morals and Dogma on your own. And discover what piece of crap it all is. Good luck with "the craft" and rock on with your bad self if you still decide to join up. Last Edited by johnnyp on 01/06/2016 04:26 PM They already have the silver key and they are reparing the gold key as we speak. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1665246 United States 01/06/2016 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real problem is... Masons haven't a clue about what their own material means. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4473716 There are so many historical and factual errors in the information they receive that they're as in the dark or even more so than the average person. I suspect that if you get to 33 then you start to get inklings of accuracy but even then.... Likely true, but for good reason. If you enter a group only to gain a ring, bumpersticker and some friends to hide from the wife from do you really deserve anything other than what is "good for you"? Everyone has a purpose, the mailroom attendant need not know how the payroll is done. |
Fhirinne User ID: 64068588 United Kingdom 01/06/2016 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My only advice and take it or leave it is: you will not find illumination with false light. Quoting: Fhirinne I hear alot of the anti-masonry arguments, but on the same token that is only seeing one side of the coin. To some, the global elite are enslaving us... to others, we are savage selfish beasts who without the authoritive oversight of TPTB would have destroyed themselves long ago, if they ever got out of mud-huts chucking spears. In the duality of life, its easy for some tot cast judgment yet difficult for others to accept it. I myself respect a strive for excellence provided one adheres to morals and ethics in doing so, this is why I believe masonry can offer my the support I seek and wish to contribute to. Well why dont you judge the fruit of masons by what these 33'ers get up to in the world. Its nothing short of evil. Sure they say they are there for the betterment of mankind, well after all these years where is it? Because these freaks have taken us to this point in time and its not pretty. Join up though You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
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johnnyp User ID: 65720377 Sweden 01/06/2016 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real problem is... Masons haven't a clue about what their own material means. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4473716 There are so many historical and factual errors in the information they receive that they're as in the dark or even more so than the average person. I suspect that if you get to 33 then you start to get inklings of accuracy but even then.... Likely true, but for good reason. If you enter a group only to gain a ring, bumpersticker and some friends to hide from the wife from do you really deserve anything other than what is "good for you"? Everyone has a purpose, the mailroom attendant need not know how the payroll is done. Sounds like you actually want to be a tool. Listen to Bill Coopers "Mystery Babylon" series for starters. Download it. It is old so everything is not correct but it is close enough. Remember that you are not innocent anymore. We have warned you. Last Edited by johnnyp on 01/06/2016 04:31 PM They already have the silver key and they are reparing the gold key as we speak. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1665246 United States 01/06/2016 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My only advice and take it or leave it is: you will not find illumination with false light. Quoting: Fhirinne I hear alot of the anti-masonry arguments, but on the same token that is only seeing one side of the coin. To some, the global elite are enslaving us... to others, we are savage selfish beasts who without the authoritive oversight of TPTB would have destroyed themselves long ago, if they ever got out of mud-huts chucking spears. In the duality of life, its easy for some tot cast judgment yet difficult for others to accept it. I myself respect a strive for excellence provided one adheres to morals and ethics in doing so, this is why I believe masonry can offer my the support I seek and wish to contribute to. Well why dont you judge the fruit of masons by what these 33'ers get up to in the world. Its nothing short of evil. Sure they say they are there for the betterment of mankind, well after all these years where is it? Because these freaks have taken us to this point in time and its not pretty. Join up though In fairness, as corrupt as our society is, there is immense opportunity for those who seek it and don't find refuge in blaming others for the lack-there-of. That's like the welfare mother who eats Mcdonalds complaining that the food is bad for her... No one said that was food, nor are you supposed to eat it. Doctors prescribe pain meds to ease the suffering, I imagine TPTB have created this world for the same. Those who strive to accomplish greatness and a better life for their loved ones can and will find it. We need structure/steps to climb... we can't simply cry because there is no elevator. |
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Malu nli User ID: 48772737 United States 01/06/2016 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i would definitely share with them the fact that you are from GLP and show them your card. you did get the card right? anyways, this will show them that you are not someone to fuck with my grandfather was a mason and i have his lodge coin, the lodge is two blocks from my house and i have often thought of taking it over there and just talking to someone. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1665246 United States 01/06/2016 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're on the right track. I took a similar approach 25 years ago. Although with me I heard this guy at work was a mason. I decided to go up to him one day and let him know I was interested to become a mason. He was very open and curious about my actions. He had not seen anyone do that before although he heard of it. It gave him a good story to talk about for years. You'll find most masons are very friendly and always willing to talk to non-masons. Just have an open discussion on your research, your mind set, and what compelled you to stop by and meet some people. It should all go well from there. One of the big requirements is you have to have a belief in a higher power. Also a strong belief in community and helping your fellow man. Don't expect to go far if you start talking about there's no such thing as a god and you live by an every man for yourself approach. :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 930979 Thank you for this. I definitely believe in a higher power, a creator, "G-d" - although I find most of what organized religions say about whomever "he" may be quite blasphemous. I know in my heart what is expected of me, and my responsibility to community and "fellow man". I also am well aware that in this world, "fellow man" does not include every Tom, Dick, and Harry. Many have limited their allegiance to only themselves... I will not trample on them, however their desires and will are not the interests I seek to support. My goal is to educate those who wish for better in their life and help just the same. If you choose to degrade yourself with ignorance and self-indlugence and only seek validation to continue on your path, as far as I am concerned you are on your own. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 930979 United States 01/06/2016 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My only advice and take it or leave it is: you will not find illumination with false light. Quoting: Fhirinne I hear alot of the anti-masonry arguments, but on the same token that is only seeing one side of the coin. To some, the global elite are enslaving us... to others, we are savage selfish beasts who without the authoritive oversight of TPTB would have destroyed themselves long ago, if they ever got out of mud-huts chucking spears. In the duality of life, its easy for some tot cast judgment yet difficult for others to accept it. I myself respect a strive for excellence provided one adheres to morals and ethics in doing so, this is why I believe masonry can offer my the support I seek and wish to contribute to. Well why dont you judge the fruit of masons by what these 33'ers get up to in the world. Its nothing short of evil. Sure they say they are there for the betterment of mankind, well after all these years where is it? Because these freaks have taken us to this point in time and its not pretty. Join up though You're giving way to much credit to human kind. Don't forget these are regular men you're talking about just like you and me. To think that any men could have a multi-generational conspiracy to take over the world for the "greater good" is unrealistic. That would be derailed in short order by corruption, perversion, addiction, abuse, etc. It wouldn't take long for one 33rd degree member, drunk with alcohol, drugs, and power... to think it's all about him, his wealth, and his power so fuck the greater good. Program over thanks to one regular guy with problems... happens every day and would happen here if such a conspiracy were truth. |
Fhirinne User ID: 64068588 United Kingdom 01/06/2016 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My only advice and take it or leave it is: you will not find illumination with false light. Quoting: Fhirinne I hear alot of the anti-masonry arguments, but on the same token that is only seeing one side of the coin. To some, the global elite are enslaving us... to others, we are savage selfish beasts who without the authoritive oversight of TPTB would have destroyed themselves long ago, if they ever got out of mud-huts chucking spears. In the duality of life, its easy for some tot cast judgment yet difficult for others to accept it. I myself respect a strive for excellence provided one adheres to morals and ethics in doing so, this is why I believe masonry can offer my the support I seek and wish to contribute to. Well why dont you judge the fruit of masons by what these 33'ers get up to in the world. Its nothing short of evil. Sure they say they are there for the betterment of mankind, well after all these years where is it? Because these freaks have taken us to this point in time and its not pretty. Join up though In fairness, as corrupt as our society is, there is immense opportunity for those who seek it and don't find refuge in blaming others for the lack-there-of. That's like the welfare mother who eats Mcdonalds complaining that the food is bad for her... No one said that was food, nor are you supposed to eat it. Doctors prescribe pain meds to ease the suffering, I imagine TPTB have created this world for the same. Those who strive to accomplish greatness and a better life for their loved ones can and will find it. We need structure/steps to climb... we can't simply cry because there is no elevator. TPTB have engineered suffering into an art form. Over 80% of our govs are now masons or other society members CRF and Co. So they have been in postions to help society if that was their wish, and yet thats not what has taken place. You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
Fhirinne User ID: 64068588 United Kingdom 01/06/2016 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My only advice and take it or leave it is: you will not find illumination with false light. Quoting: Fhirinne I hear alot of the anti-masonry arguments, but on the same token that is only seeing one side of the coin. To some, the global elite are enslaving us... to others, we are savage selfish beasts who without the authoritive oversight of TPTB would have destroyed themselves long ago, if they ever got out of mud-huts chucking spears. In the duality of life, its easy for some tot cast judgment yet difficult for others to accept it. I myself respect a strive for excellence provided one adheres to morals and ethics in doing so, this is why I believe masonry can offer my the support I seek and wish to contribute to. Well why dont you judge the fruit of masons by what these 33'ers get up to in the world. Its nothing short of evil. Sure they say they are there for the betterment of mankind, well after all these years where is it? Because these freaks have taken us to this point in time and its not pretty. Join up though You're giving way to much credit to human kind. Don't forget these are regular men you're talking about just like you and me. To think that any men could have a multi-generational conspiracy to take over the world for the "greater good" is unrealistic. That would be derailed in short order by corruption, perversion, addiction, abuse, etc. It wouldn't take long for one 33rd degree member, drunk with alcohol, drugs, and power... to think it's all about him, his wealth, and his power so fuck the greater good. Program over thanks to one regular guy with problems... happens every day and would happen here if such a conspiracy were truth. Those in high places and in the true know about mason stuff are not like you and me. They call us cattle or useless eaters because thats all we are to them. You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 930979 United States 01/06/2016 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're on the right track. I took a similar approach 25 years ago. Although with me I heard this guy at work was a mason. I decided to go up to him one day and let him know I was interested to become a mason. He was very open and curious about my actions. He had not seen anyone do that before although he heard of it. It gave him a good story to talk about for years. You'll find most masons are very friendly and always willing to talk to non-masons. Just have an open discussion on your research, your mind set, and what compelled you to stop by and meet some people. It should all go well from there. One of the big requirements is you have to have a belief in a higher power. Also a strong belief in community and helping your fellow man. Don't expect to go far if you start talking about there's no such thing as a god and you live by an every man for yourself approach. :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 930979 Thank you for this. I definitely believe in a higher power, a creator, "G-d" - although I find most of what organized religions say about whomever "he" may be quite blasphemous. I know in my heart what is expected of me, and my responsibility to community and "fellow man". I also am well aware that in this world, "fellow man" does not include every Tom, Dick, and Harry. Many have limited their allegiance to only themselves... I will not trample on them, however their desires and will are not the interests I seek to support. My goal is to educate those who wish for better in their life and help just the same. If you choose to degrade yourself with ignorance and self-indlugence and only seek validation to continue on your path, as far as I am concerned you are on your own. Sounds like we have a lot in common. I don't prescribe to any current organized religions although I do believe in a higher power and higher purpose. I haven't been to lodge in years although I think of it at times. I may pop in again one day. I changed countries and cultures years ago and didn't get established in lodge after the move. I had a lot of good times before that, met lots of good men, and did many good things together for the community we were in. There can be a time commitment as well so be aware of that... especially if you're married. There's required lodge meetings, community outings/fund raisers, grand lodge meetings, etc... Good luck in your travels and always look to the east... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1665246 United States 01/06/2016 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're on the right track. I took a similar approach 25 years ago. Although with me I heard this guy at work was a mason. I decided to go up to him one day and let him know I was interested to become a mason. He was very open and curious about my actions. He had not seen anyone do that before although he heard of it. It gave him a good story to talk about for years. You'll find most masons are very friendly and always willing to talk to non-masons. Just have an open discussion on your research, your mind set, and what compelled you to stop by and meet some people. It should all go well from there. One of the big requirements is you have to have a belief in a higher power. Also a strong belief in community and helping your fellow man. Don't expect to go far if you start talking about there's no such thing as a god and you live by an every man for yourself approach. :) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 930979 Thank you for this. I definitely believe in a higher power, a creator, "G-d" - although I find most of what organized religions say about whomever "he" may be quite blasphemous. I know in my heart what is expected of me, and my responsibility to community and "fellow man". I also am well aware that in this world, "fellow man" does not include every Tom, Dick, and Harry. Many have limited their allegiance to only themselves... I will not trample on them, however their desires and will are not the interests I seek to support. My goal is to educate those who wish for better in their life and help just the same. If you choose to degrade yourself with ignorance and self-indlugence and only seek validation to continue on your path, as far as I am concerned you are on your own. Sounds like we have a lot in common. I don't prescribe to any current organized religions although I do believe in a higher power and higher purpose. I haven't been to lodge in years although I think of it at times. I may pop in again one day. I changed countries and cultures years ago and didn't get established in lodge after the move. I had a lot of good times before that, met lots of good men, and did many good things together for the community we were in. There can be a time commitment as well so be aware of that... especially if you're married. There's required lodge meetings, community outings/fund raisers, grand lodge meetings, etc... Good luck in your travels and always look to the east... Thank you brother. Blessings to you and yours! |
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eekers Dreamer of Dreams User ID: 63577683 United States 01/06/2016 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just go in and ask. if it's an open meeting not just for members, I'm sure they can tell you how to join. "We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot |