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Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 55240075 United States 01/20/2016 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am in the middle of writing a paper regarding my thesis. Quoting: AshLib2012 I also have a sense of humour but also hold you as a peer so to speak. Very few people would even begin to understand the dynamics. Kick starting a core would require a lot of energy, more than likely at some point some explosions will have taken place at the core as well as potentially drilling to the corebof the planet, similar to sinkholes? That or after mapping a huge volcanic system on the planet energy could be directed into the core. At some point the energy being redirected will have to be lessened, but not stopped as the potential planet being terraformed would be too far away like Mars to remain under the constant influence of the stars energy. Forgive me, I wasn't trying to dismiss your idea, like I said I find it interesting and unique. Obviously it would require a lot of number crunching to see if it's plausible or not. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45470630 United States 01/20/2016 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [ Quoting: Dr. Astro Well to me that would seem to be overkill but maybe not. Scott Manley actually has a pretty good video on YouTube showcasing how much energy it would take to destroy a planet in a Death Star like fashion. Perhaps this is Starkiller base getting ready to destroy the rebellion or something lol. is it pointed at us?! |
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KipKat User ID: 71222914 Netherlands 01/20/2016 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe the light itself is a signal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46035261 Optical SETI [link to www.seti.org] Not everyone thinks the best way to comunicate is with radio waves. Scalar wave communication... :kkwapper: |
AshLib2012 User ID: 71279338 United Kingdom 01/20/2016 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's where I was hoping you would come in. Crunching those numbers and extending my theory. I'd like to have an open discussion were people are able to construct the idea based on our system and our technology and seeing if it applies to tabby. I don't know many people on here but I'm sure there are engineers and physicist's around and hopefully some geologists who could provide information on whether the theory is plausible. Thank you though For entertaining my thoughtd |
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JeffersunTzu User ID: 69465840 United States 01/20/2016 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some random thoughts... Isn't SETI looking for radio signals from this a bit of a wast of time? I would imagine any civilization advanced enough to create a megastructure would have long since moved on from using radio signals. And since they are only 1400 light years away what ever period of their development they may have used radio signals would have long since "washed over" earth. It seems fair to say the steady decline in brightness points to "growth" or increase in what is obscuring it? So obviously that would make one jump to the conclusion of construction of the structure... "The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots." "He who knows when he can fight and when he can not, will be victorious." "Part of being a winner is knowing when enough is enough. Sometimes you have to give up the fight and walk away, and move on to something that's more productive." "Sometimes by losing a battle you find a new way to win the war." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71279713 Belgium 01/20/2016 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [ Quoting: Dr. Astro Well to me that would seem to be overkill but maybe not. Scott Manley actually has a pretty good video on YouTube showcasing how much energy it would take to destroy a planet in a Death Star like fashion. Perhaps this is Starkiller base getting ready to destroy the rebellion or something lol. is it pointed at us?! If an alien race has the tech to build a "death star" then i don't think they will need it to destroy our world. Their tech would be 1000's of years beyond us. And we wouldn"t be able to stand against them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 59684448 United States 01/20/2016 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That was one theory, but I don't see how that explains this steady secular dimming. Could there be a natural phenomenon that acts the way a "Starkiller Base" would? Like a moving black hole that "orbits" the star, slowly pulling matter away from it and also occasionally passing between us and the star, absorbing radiation that would otherwise head towards us and creating the unusual dimming effect? [link to www.astronomy.com] I know it's probably not the same kind of star as in the link but you get the idea |
JeffersunTzu User ID: 69465840 United States 01/20/2016 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So... Where does one find the requisite silicon in a solar system to build a Dyson's sphere? "The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots." "He who knows when he can fight and when he can not, will be victorious." "Part of being a winner is knowing when enough is enough. Sometimes you have to give up the fight and walk away, and move on to something that's more productive." "Sometimes by losing a battle you find a new way to win the war." |
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Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 01/20/2016 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That was one theory, but I don't see how that explains this steady secular dimming. Could there be a natural phenomenon that acts the way a "Starkiller Base" would? Like a moving black hole that "orbits" the star, slowly pulling matter away from it and also occasionally passing between us and the star, absorbing radiation that would otherwise head towards us and creating the unusual dimming effect? [link to www.astronomy.com] I know it's probably not the same kind of star as in the link but you get the idea A black hole drawing matter away from the main star would be quite noticeable. The matter would form an accretion disc around the black hole, heating up massively as it falls inward. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70725803 United States 01/20/2016 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So... Quoting: JeffersunTzu Where does one find the requisite silicon in a solar system to build a Dyson's sphere? [link to m.wolframalpha.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71021811 United States 01/20/2016 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about we dont understand stars, and iy isnt an object or aliens but rather an effect of the star itself dimming. I know this is not how stars opperate on this short term, however, there are many observations of our own star that do not meet the model of burning fuel. Could this be explained if the star was shorting out like a light bulb dims from a surge or something. What i am sugggesting is that the simplest explanation is that we severly understand how stars or stars like this oppperate. It is easier to believe then an alien civilization building something to harness the solar power of a star, thats seems so wrong. When they would be so far advanced that energy is derived from other more efficient means. |
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hankie Everything User ID: 66849899 United States 01/20/2016 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are all Alien to me. But, it did make me think, where oh, where are they going to get money to do anything. Also, how did the asteroid belt look at night? I think something like stars twinkling in the night sky. As they reported years ago, they got signals they thought were alien, it was I love lucy, and a lot of other like the three stooges. Bouncing off the sphere above the earth. Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
Gaelic User ID: 54280011 Ireland 01/20/2016 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, Dr. Astro, can you please suggest some good astronomy blogs to keep up with? I've only recently been getting into this topic. Oh, for anyone interested in Exobiology, I would recommend this podcast by Prof. Richard Pogge of Ohio State University: [link to www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu] Available on iTunes: [link to itunes.apple.com (secure)] |
Xeven User ID: 22759987 United States 01/20/2016 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Astro couldn't a small black hole be weak enough and perhaps far enough away to very slowly draw in the stars qas without having a easily seen accretion disk? How small can a black hole get without vaporizing right away? I understand vaporizing is probably not the right word. I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |