ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 01/31/2016 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! [link to www.rt.com (secure)] Quoting: ^^MW^^ This is what McConnell said: Mark McConnell, the driver of the second vehicle in the militia convoy, described claims that Finicum was gunned down as “nonsense.” “He was not on his knees. None of that nonsense,” McConnell said in a video posted on Facebook early on Wednesday. “He went after them. He charged them,” McConnell said, citing the account of events given by Shawna Cox and Ryan Payne, both passengers in Finicum’s truck. It is unclear how he heard the accounts, however, since both Payne and Cox were detained by the authorities, while McConnell was let go. Why are you posting this provocateurs account? McConnell is nothing but a liar and a shill. The video proves he's a liar. I am trying to let everyone see he is in fact the mole and liar who set the group up. MARK MCONNELL IS THE MOLE! |
M*walk Low Earth Orbit User ID: 9652994 United States 01/31/2016 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! [link to www.freecapitalist.com] Quoting: ^^MW^^ Second, the driver of the first vehicle, Mark McConnell, was reportedly released after several hours of questioning, and he responded to the social media frenzy about LaVoy’s murder by debunking the concern, posting two videos arguing that LaVoy had acted aggressively and that LaVoy had charged at the FBI agents, provoking their shots. Does anyone believe this guy's account of the shooting? I have had much experience with cops and guns. When you are facing feds with guns pointed at you, STAY PUT! Don't get out of the vehicle they just attempted to stop, and DON'T MOVE TOWARDS THEM! Especially if they suspect you to be armed. Bottom line: Lavoy was killed because he was stupid and caused the feds to panic. You're stupid for not telling the whole story, LaVoy took off because they shot at them. Fuckin shillz man!! “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” |
M*walk Low Earth Orbit User ID: 9652994 United States 01/31/2016 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! [link to www.rt.com (secure)] Quoting: ^^MW^^ This is what McConnell said: Mark McConnell, the driver of the second vehicle in the militia convoy, described claims that Finicum was gunned down as “nonsense.” “He was not on his knees. None of that nonsense,” McConnell said in a video posted on Facebook early on Wednesday. “He went after them. He charged them,” McConnell said, citing the account of events given by Shawna Cox and Ryan Payne, both passengers in Finicum’s truck. It is unclear how he heard the accounts, however, since both Payne and Cox were detained by the authorities, while McConnell was let go. Why are you posting this provocateurs account? McConnell is nothing but a liar and a shill. The video proves he's a liar. I am trying to let everyone see he is in fact the mole and liar who set the group up. MARK MCONNELL IS THE MOLE! “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 01/31/2016 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! |
Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States 01/31/2016 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! in simpler terms..... Quoting: Chugiakian “Congress shall make no law … abridging … the right of the people … to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” Then if we abide by the Constitution, the Militia had every right to protest and stand up to big government. Was that a well regulated militia? That is hard to define based on a lack of specifics within our constitution. Any determination of that, one way or the other, is going to be determined by the political makeup of the US Supreme Court. This is an important point. Three guys with guns robbing a liquor store claim they are a well regulated militia opposing high booze taxes. Don't laugh. Take that on a sliding scale all the way to the National Guard. The founding fathers were smart to include WELL REGULATED. The question is: "How smart are we?" Well, they weren't opposing taxes, we saw a tons of this with the riots. Even worse and the govt did NOTHING to stop it. So, any argument in favor of what happened in the case of the Feds is invalid just by that standard. Any of you .gov trolls here, prove me wrong on this point. You can't. "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71342104 United States 01/31/2016 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! Move some tactical guys up real close at night. Tell the 4 guys there that 8 federa officers are coming to arrest them at daylight. Do that. First shot or first resistance, kill the 4. |
Chugiakian User ID: 68640416 United States 01/31/2016 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! I apologize, but I have been watching the above video. Please, I beg all of you to watch it and hear a firsthand account of the tragedy from Shawna Cox. We have to get this out. She also says that Mark McConnell was the mole in this. Please watch this and get Shawna Cox's official story on exactly what happened. We have to get this out and now! BREAKING: [link to www.freecapitalist.com] Chugiakian |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 01/31/2016 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! [link to www.freecapitalist.com] Quoting: ^^MW^^ Second, the driver of the first vehicle, Mark McConnell, was reportedly released after several hours of questioning, and he responded to the social media frenzy about LaVoy’s murder by debunking the concern, posting two videos arguing that LaVoy had acted aggressively and that LaVoy had charged at the FBI agents, provoking their shots. Does anyone believe this guy's account of the shooting? I have had much experience with cops and guns. When you are facing feds with guns pointed at you, STAY PUT! Don't get out of the vehicle they just attempted to stop, and DON'T MOVE TOWARDS THEM! Especially if they suspect you to be armed. Bottom line: Lavoy was killed because he was stupid and caused the feds to panic. You're stupid for not telling the whole story, LaVoy took off because they shot at them. Fuckin shillz man!! Yes, they were riddling with bullets from the very beginning. they meant to kill everyone in the vehicle. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71342104 United States 01/31/2016 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! The 4 people left are entirely delusional. This is recent from defendyourbase [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States 01/31/2016 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! in simpler terms..... Quoting: Chugiakian “Congress shall make no law … abridging … the right of the people … to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” Then if we abide by the Constitution, the Militia had every right to protest and stand up to big government. Was that a well regulated militia? That is hard to define based on a lack of specifics within our constitution. Any determination of that, one way or the other, is going to be determined by the political makeup of the US Supreme Court. This is an important point. Three guys with guns robbing a liquor store claim they are a well regulated militia opposing high booze taxes. Don't laugh. Take that on a sliding scale all the way to the National Guard. The founding fathers were smart to include WELL REGULATED. The question is: "How smart are we?" well regulated militia being each state's National Guard. No, that us a branch of the armed forces, a militia is completely different. "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
Sunny Daze User ID: 14751920 United States 01/31/2016 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! It should be remembered that there are 4 weak clowns Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71342104 holding the refuge right now. A few federal officers could go in there and kill them all and take the refuge back. Why hasn't the big bad horrible govt already taken these 4 people out? they don't want an audience ... these guys are sreaming live - so that you will KNOW what went down personally, I refuse to watch the FBI video - in respect for LaVoy and his family - it intentionally doesn't show what they don't want you to see ... and even with the vid, people are still heavily debating what they saw to me - it is clear - LaVoy was their target - in their minds, he had "volunteered" to be the "example" - they knew that he would not use his weapon - that he was an OLD man, that could have easily been captured - even if it meant letting him escape and picking him up later ... his murder was completely un-necessary ... and the only "example" it shows, is how fucked up the FBI are - |
Chugiakian User ID: 68640416 United States 01/31/2016 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! I apologize, but I have been watching the above video. Please, I beg all of you to watch it and hear a firsthand account of the tragedy from Shawna Cox. We have to get this out. She also says that Mark McConnell was the mole in this. Please watch this and get Shawna Cox's official story on exactly what happened. We have to get this out and now! Everyone must hear this! Her story corroborates the testimony of Victoria, the first eyewitness that we heard from. Not only did they murder LaVoy, but they tried to kill everyone else in the vehicle. Chugiakian |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69657566 United States 01/31/2016 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! Protest Erupts In Gun Fire At Burns, Rangeland Protesters Set To Meet In Boise Saturday The GUARDIAN has confirmed that a group with apparently similar concerns as the protesters has booked Boise’s Centre On The Grove for Saturday January 30. The seminar is entitled “STORM OVER RANGELANDS” and has scheduled a “Property Rights Workshop” and will discuss “Dealing With Federal Overreach.” [link to boiseguardian.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71342104 United States 01/31/2016 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! [link to www.freecapitalist.com] Quoting: ^^MW^^ Second, the driver of the first vehicle, Mark McConnell, was reportedly released after several hours of questioning, and he responded to the social media frenzy about LaVoy’s murder by debunking the concern, posting two videos arguing that LaVoy had acted aggressively and that LaVoy had charged at the FBI agents, provoking their shots. Does anyone believe this guy's account of the shooting? I have had much experience with cops and guns. When you are facing feds with guns pointed at you, STAY PUT! Don't get out of the vehicle they just attempted to stop, and DON'T MOVE TOWARDS THEM! Especially if they suspect you to be armed. Bottom line: Lavoy was killed because he was stupid and caused the feds to panic. You're stupid for not telling the whole story, LaVoy took off because they shot at them. Fuckin shillz man!! After refusing to follow orders for 4 minutes. "Driver! Turn Off the Vehicle and Throw the Keys OUT THE DOOR! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 01/31/2016 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! I apologize, but I have been watching the above video. Please, I beg all of you to watch it and hear a firsthand account of the tragedy from Shawna Cox. We have to get this out. She also says that Mark McConnell was the mole in this. Please watch this and get Shawna Cox's official story on exactly what happened. We have to get this out and now! BREAKING: [link to www.freecapitalist.com] Today, Shawna Cox, who was also a passenger in Mr. Finicum’s truck provided a second eyewitness account of the events, including her efforts to try and help protect Ms. Sharp (and Ryan Bundy who was also a passenger) during “a hailstorm” of gunfire. Describing desperate pleas, screams, and constant prayer, Ms. Cox recounted her recollection of a barrage of “hundreds” of rounds of ammunition being fired into the white pickup truck by law enforcement agents – before, during and after Mr. Finicum’s death. The interview (included below) took place after Ms. Cox contacted me via text message, and in a subsequent telephone interview relayed her personal account of the events, including what she witnessed, what she heard and her first-hand recollection of how events were set-up by a suspected government informant. In this January 30, 2016 episode of Free Capitalist Radio, Ms. Cox also expresses some reservation in sharing these details noting that, based upon her observation, the FBI and OSP wanted all of passengers in the vehicle dead, and that while free on pretrial release – she is still in a very risky legal and personal situation. But, she explains, “the truth must get out.” Her mission now, she says, is helping in the defense of all those arrested (including herself) and remaining dedicated to protecting the Constitution and continuing the fight to stop the abuses brought to light by the Malheur Refuge protest. In doing this, she says, she is also honoring the sacrifice made by LaVoy Finicum. |
Chugiakian User ID: 68640416 United States 01/31/2016 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! Shawna Cox is out of jail. Her description of the abush/shooting of Lavoy matches that of Victoria Sharp. She says that McConnel set them up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65610068 [link to www.freecapitalist.com] Son of a b! And saying LaVoy charged the cops...so devastating. LeVoy DID NOT charge the feds..that was clear in ALL videos, whether edited or not. Here's the latest explanation of that by many who still find the error on the side of the Bundy's and the militia..LeVoy 'suicided' himself. How ridiculous is that? How in the hell does anyone commit suicide by putting their hands up and moving away from the potential fire? They seem to believe that this issue stemming from a vile government overreach, should just be looked at as nothing. Seizure of rights to property is nothing, the constitution is nothing, Agenda 21 is nothing..apparently we the people should just allow gov't to do whatever it pleases without control or discretion. It is more than just cowardly, it is a society under some kind of massive mind control. Are we as a nation just weakened, or has the majority decided it's far better to live like zombie serfs under a fascist leadership without privilege, rights or freedoms. Have we sunk this low in America? To be free means sometimes, many times, we have to fight for that freedom. Each year we have more and more of those freedoms stripped away. Little by little we are more likened to a Marxist country, than a free system based on capitalism. Hell, we even have an AVOWED socialist running for president that openly admits it and still garners support. I cannot believe this is the America of my birth and my continuing life. She does not even resemble who and what she was any longer. This event is foul through and through. There is no right explanation for this and this event alone must continue to stay in the hearts and minds of we the people. This is a government functioning without control, and without concern for its membership. It is what Orwell predicted in 1984..we are there now. I do not understand the obvious opposition to an event that clearly moves against all and any constitutional rights due all people in this nation. I will say this, the blacks no matter how unsubstantiated an event is, back up the blacks, IN HUGE NUMBER. What do the supposed 'patriots' and citizens of this country do in a case like this one? Blame the victims. I am ashamed of my countrymen in this, there is no longer a majority mindset that embraces what America was and should still be. We are on the precipice of doom while most people are sitting there waiting for the inevitable with a smile on their faces, accepting anything this tyrant Obama dishes out. Well I'm not going down easy. I will never live on my knees subservient to an unjust system and its masters..live free or die is not only a mantra it is an absolute for some, it is an absolute for me without negotiation. God bless all these fighting and dying for their freedom, they are the real Americans in what I call our last frontier. Anno Dio. Lavoy saved everyone else in the truck by drawing fire on himself. A true hero RIP Chugiakian |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17419688 Croatia 01/31/2016 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! For federal state to ownf the land is in itself a legal pardox and contradiction because than, coz states are no longer states because they have no authority over all its territory--> then US is not a federation but a single state. Federal state can own buildings on state land, nothing else. |
Visitor User ID: 71336828 United States 01/31/2016 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! ... Quoting: ^^MW^^ Then if we abide by the Constitution, the Militia had every right to protest and stand up to big government. Was that a well regulated militia? That is hard to define based on a lack of specifics within our constitution. Any determination of that, one way or the other, is going to be determined by the political makeup of the US Supreme Court. This is an important point. Three guys with guns robbing a liquor store claim they are a well regulated militia opposing high booze taxes. Don't laugh. Take that on a sliding scale all the way to the National Guard. The founding fathers were smart to include WELL REGULATED. The question is: "How smart are we?" well regulated militia being each state's National Guard. No, that us a branch of the armed forces, a militia is completely different. A militia generally is an army or other fighting unit that is composed of non-professional fighters, citizens of a nation or subjects of a state or government who can be called upon to enter a combat situation, as opposed to a professional force of regular, full-time military personnel, |
Esoterica User ID: 55079802 United States 01/31/2016 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! Set them up how exactly? These guys committed federal crimes at the Bundy Ranch standoff by pointing guns at federal officers. Were they fooled into taking over the refuge? Were they fooled into thinking taking over federal property by force of arms was somehow legal? When the revised charges are filed against them you'll see just how many crimes they committed. who did they force whit those arms? "Force of arms" is a special case that can be an example of unlawful violence or lawful compulsion dependent on who is exercising the violence (or threat thereof) and their legal right and/or responsibility to do so. You guys should remember this definition because you'll hear it a lot in the future trials. So, are you FBI or in the courts? Last Edited by Esoterica on 01/31/2016 12:36 PM "The more you know, the crazier you look" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71342104 United States 01/31/2016 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! Protest Erupts In Gun Fire At Burns, Rangeland Protesters Set To Meet In Boise Saturday Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69657566 The GUARDIAN has confirmed that a group with apparently similar concerns as the protesters has booked Boise’s Centre On The Grove for Saturday January 30. The seminar is entitled “STORM OVER RANGELANDS” and has scheduled a “Property Rights Workshop” and will discuss “Dealing With Federal Overreach.” [link to boiseguardian.com] I bet dollars to doughnuts that gets canceled by order of the Boise city government and the Boise Chamber of Commerce and the Boise police and the Ada County Sheriff. |
Visitor User ID: 71336828 United States 01/31/2016 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! I have had much experience with cops and guns. When you are facing feds with guns pointed at you, STAY PUT! Don't get out of the vehicle they just attempted to stop, and DON'T MOVE TOWARDS THEM! Especially if they suspect you to be armed. Bottom line: Lavoy was killed because he was stupid and caused the feds to panic. You're stupid for not telling the whole story, LaVoy took off because they shot at them. Fuckin shillz man!! After refusing to follow orders for 4 minutes. "Driver! Turn Off the Vehicle and Throw the Keys OUT THE DOOR! If he trew his car keys out the window. They would have claimed he threw a weapon at them and justified their execution of him, that way. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71342104 United States 01/31/2016 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! For federal state to ownf the land is in itself a legal pardox and contradiction because than, coz states are no longer states because they have no authority over all its territory--> then US is not a federation but a single state. Federal state can own buildings on state land, nothing else. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17419688 absolute poppycock. go back on this thread and read the links that tell the story of Nevada and its federal lands and the 1976 Supreme Court decision against New Mexico. |
/7007/ User ID: 59542992 United States 01/31/2016 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! It should be remembered that there are 4 weak clowns Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71342104 holding the refuge right now. A few federal officers could go in there and kill them all and take the refuge back. Why hasn't the big bad horrible govt already taken these 4 people out? They may have done just that. David's feed has been down for over 15hrs and counting. Last Edited by SyncAsFunk on 01/31/2016 12:15 PM Some Will. Some won't. So....... |
Angella777 User ID: 69994055 United States 01/31/2016 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! Weren't you the same person that said a few days ago that Palmer set them up? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70335513 I don't disagree about McConnell but honestly, no one HAD to set them up. These guys came down from the mountain every single day. They went to meetings, they went to restaurants for lunch, etc. This was the first time LaVoy came down, but the Bundy's came down often. The Town Meeting was no secret to anyone. Everyone knew it was happening, it was public knowledge. And everyone knew these men would be attending. As a matter of fact, they also had a meeting scheduled with the FBI after the Town Meeting. So why is it that people keep harping on these guys being "set up"? Why must there be a boogie man? A conspiracy? It was simple, they were going to the meeting, they were coming down the mountain, and they would be unarmed, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER TIME THEY LEFT THE REFUGE. Period. You are taking the term 'set up' too literally. In this case it simply means they were lying in wait for LeVoy..which can be looked at and described as a 'set up'. By the way, this man is dead so why not just continue nitpicking certain words used by those invested in this terrible event, instead of concentrating on the issue that this was a MURDER. Damn the stupid grows in people daily.. Angella777 |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 59866150 United States 01/31/2016 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! Shawna Cox is out of jail. Her description of the abush/shooting of Lavoy matches that of Victoria Sharp. She says that McConnel set them up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65610068 [link to www.freecapitalist.com] Son of a b! And saying LaVoy charged the cops...so devastating. LeVoy DID NOT charge the feds..that was clear in ALL videos, whether edited or not. Here's the latest explanation of that by many who still find the error on the side of the Bundy's and the militia..LeVoy 'suicided' himself. How ridiculous is that? How in the hell does anyone commit suicide by putting their hands up and moving away from the potential fire? They seem to believe that this issue stemming from a vile government overreach, should just be looked at as nothing. Seizure of rights to property is nothing, the constitution is nothing, Agenda 21 is nothing..apparently we the people should just allow gov't to do whatever it pleases without control or discretion. It is more than just cowardly, it is a society under some kind of massive mind control. Are we as a nation just weakened, or has the majority decided it's far better to live like zombie serfs under a fascist leadership without privilege, rights or freedoms. Have we sunk this low in America? To be free means sometimes, many times, we have to fight for that freedom. Each year we have more and more of those freedoms stripped away. Little by little we are more likened to a Marxist country, than a free system based on capitalism. Hell, we even have an AVOWED socialist running for president that openly admits it and still garners support. I cannot believe this is the America of my birth and my continuing life. She does not even resemble who and what she was any longer. This event is foul through and through. There is no right explanation for this and this event alone must continue to stay in the hearts and minds of we the people. This is a government functioning without control, and without concern for its membership. It is what Orwell predicted in 1984..we are there now. I do not understand the obvious opposition to an event that clearly moves against all and any constitutional rights due all people in this nation. I will say this, the blacks no matter how unsubstantiated an event is, back up the blacks, IN HUGE NUMBER. What do the supposed 'patriots' and citizens of this country do in a case like this one? Blame the victims. I am ashamed of my countrymen in this, there is no longer a majority mindset that embraces what America was and should still be. We are on the precipice of doom while most people are sitting there waiting for the inevitable with a smile on their faces, accepting anything this tyrant Obama dishes out. Well I'm not going down easy. I will never live on my knees subservient to an unjust system and its masters..live free or die is not only a mantra it is an absolute for some, it is an absolute for me without negotiation. God bless all these fighting and dying for their freedom, they are the real Americans in what I call our last frontier. Anno Dio. Lavoy saved everyone else in the truck by drawing fire on himself. A true hero RIP LaVoy Finicum saved the lives of Shawna Cox, Ryan Bundy, Ryan Payne, and the 18 year old girl with the group. He left the vehicle to distract away from those inside. Although, in doing this, the shooters continued to riddle the vehicle with bullets. They never let up even after LaVoy had fallen dead on the ground. |
Chugiakian User ID: 68640416 United States 01/31/2016 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! I have had much experience with cops and guns. When you are facing feds with guns pointed at you, STAY PUT! Don't get out of the vehicle they just attempted to stop, and DON'T MOVE TOWARDS THEM! Especially if they suspect you to be armed. Bottom line: Lavoy was killed because he was stupid and caused the feds to panic. You're stupid for not telling the whole story, LaVoy took off because they shot at them. Fuckin shillz man!! After refusing to follow orders for 4 minutes. "Driver! Turn Off the Vehicle and Throw the Keys OUT THE DOOR! Go listen to the first hand eye witness report. They shot at LaVoy's truck at the first stop. when they put both hands out the window, the FEDS SHOT AT THEM! This is when LaVoy decided to leave. [link to www.freecapitalist.com] Chugiakian |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71342104 United States 01/31/2016 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8398260 I have had much experience with cops and guns. When you are facing feds with guns pointed at you, STAY PUT! Don't get out of the vehicle they just attempted to stop, and DON'T MOVE TOWARDS THEM! Especially if they suspect you to be armed. Bottom line: Lavoy was killed because he was stupid and caused the feds to panic. You're stupid for not telling the whole story, LaVoy took off because they shot at them. Fuckin shillz man!! After refusing to follow orders for 4 minutes. "Driver! Turn Off the Vehicle and Throw the Keys OUT THE DOOR! If he trew his car keys out the window. They would have claimed he threw a weapon at them and justified their execution of him, that way. Then why did ANY of those guys live through the encounter? An ambush to kill them would have taken 8-10 FBI agents, no OSP, no drone video. Just stop the vehicles and riddle them with rifle fire just like Bonnie and Clyde. Tell the media that they fired on FBI agents attempting to serve arrest warrants and the FBI returned fire. End of story. If they wanted them all dead, WHY ARE THEY NOT ALL DEAD? |
Chugiakian User ID: 68640416 United States 01/31/2016 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! LeVoy DID NOT charge the feds..that was clear in ALL videos, whether edited or not. Here's the latest explanation of that by many who still find the error on the side of the Bundy's and the militia..LeVoy 'suicided' himself. How ridiculous is that? How in the hell does anyone commit suicide by putting their hands up and moving away from the potential fire? They seem to believe that this issue stemming from a vile government overreach, should just be looked at as nothing. Seizure of rights to property is nothing, the constitution is nothing, Agenda 21 is nothing..apparently we the people should just allow gov't to do whatever it pleases without control or discretion. It is more than just cowardly, it is a society under some kind of massive mind control. Are we as a nation just weakened, or has the majority decided it's far better to live like zombie serfs under a fascist leadership without privilege, rights or freedoms. Have we sunk this low in America? To be free means sometimes, many times, we have to fight for that freedom. Each year we have more and more of those freedoms stripped away. Little by little we are more likened to a Marxist country, than a free system based on capitalism. Hell, we even have an AVOWED socialist running for president that openly admits it and still garners support. I cannot believe this is the America of my birth and my continuing life. She does not even resemble who and what she was any longer. This event is foul through and through. There is no right explanation for this and this event alone must continue to stay in the hearts and minds of we the people. This is a government functioning without control, and without concern for its membership. It is what Orwell predicted in 1984..we are there now. I do not understand the obvious opposition to an event that clearly moves against all and any constitutional rights due all people in this nation. I will say this, the blacks no matter how unsubstantiated an event is, back up the blacks, IN HUGE NUMBER. What do the supposed 'patriots' and citizens of this country do in a case like this one? Blame the victims. I am ashamed of my countrymen in this, there is no longer a majority mindset that embraces what America was and should still be. We are on the precipice of doom while most people are sitting there waiting for the inevitable with a smile on their faces, accepting anything this tyrant Obama dishes out. Well I'm not going down easy. I will never live on my knees subservient to an unjust system and its masters..live free or die is not only a mantra it is an absolute for some, it is an absolute for me without negotiation. God bless all these fighting and dying for their freedom, they are the real Americans in what I call our last frontier. Anno Dio. Lavoy saved everyone else in the truck by drawing fire on himself. A true hero RIP LaVoy Finicum saved the lives of Shawna Cox, Ryan Bundy, Ryan Payne, and the 18 year old girl with the group. He left the vehicle to distract away from those inside. Although, in doing this, the shooters continued to riddle the vehicle with bullets. They never let up even after LaVoy had fallen dead on the ground. All the while, LaVoy's hands were still up, even after he was MURDERED. Chugiakian |
Sunny Daze User ID: 14751920 United States 01/31/2016 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! The 4 people left are entirely delusional. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71342104 This is recent from defendyourbase [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] the four people left have NOTHING TO LOOSE ... and when that happens - it is common - almost expected - that you WILL "loose it" ... I didn't watch your vid - I thought the same thing, when I listened to them freeking out because they thought they were being attacked ... but I also listened - when they were calm and thinking straight - to their reasoning ... like LaVoy, they would rather be dead, that spend years in a cement box, or free as felons ... in a Facist world, where they would never be employed again ... like I said - they have nothing to loose ... and hanging in there - picking up the flag that the bundys droped - and demanding the same amnesty given the rioters in Baltimore - is their only hope of every having a life they should be praised, IMO for not letting the ball drop - as long as they are there, the docs are safe - the Indian artifacts are safe ... and I appreciate their determination and admire their resolve - none of this could have happened if the militia weren't such pussies - but it did make one thing clear to us all - we certainly CAN NOT depend on them to defend the Constitution Last Edited by Sunny Daze on 01/31/2016 12:20 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71342104 United States 01/31/2016 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ALERT! Message from inside refuge! Video of Shawna Cox, who was in vehicle with LaVoy Finicum, speaking out...telling all..please watch! ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8398260 I have had much experience with cops and guns. When you are facing feds with guns pointed at you, STAY PUT! Don't get out of the vehicle they just attempted to stop, and DON'T MOVE TOWARDS THEM! Especially if they suspect you to be armed. Bottom line: Lavoy was killed because he was stupid and caused the feds to panic. You're stupid for not telling the whole story, LaVoy took off because they shot at them. Fuckin shillz man!! After refusing to follow orders for 4 minutes. "Driver! Turn Off the Vehicle and Throw the Keys OUT THE DOOR! Go listen to the first hand eye witness report. They shot at LaVoy's truck at the first stop. when they put both hands out the window, the FEDS SHOT AT THEM! This is when LaVoy decided to leave. [link to www.freecapitalist.com] In a traffic stop, FOLLOW DIRECTIONS! Do what you're told. Do not resist, actively OR passively by just sitting and not following directions. |