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Where Are "The Signs In The Heavens?"

 
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Where Are "The Signs In The Heavens?"
Christians in Church like to claim we are in the last days, when The Bible says "Signs in the Heavens" will be occurring.

By definition, a "sign" is placed by the Sign Maker to convey a message to be read and understood by those to whom it is given. It us to be readable. Yet, these Christians cannot:

1.) Identify any specific "Signs in the Heavens" which we can see.

2.) When they do manage to supposedly identify a "Sign in the Heavens," they cannot say what it specifically says. They just give a sort of generic, previously mumbled bit of verbage. The "Signs" they point to do not actually say what the Christians try to say about them.

The correct and honest thing for these people to do is just admit they see no "Signs in the Heavens," and that if they do see them in the future they will not get all carried away in their imagination and religious excitement.
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Christians in Church like to claim we are in the last days, when The Bible says "Signs in the Heavens" will be occurring.

By definition, a "sign" is placed by the Sign Maker to convey a message to be read and understood by those to whom it is given. It us to be readable. Yet, these Christians cannot:

1.) Identify any specific "Signs in the Heavens" which we can see.

2.) When they do manage to supposedly identify a "Sign in the Heavens," they cannot say what it specifically says. They just give a sort of generic, previously mumbled bit of verbage. The "Signs" they point to do not actually say what the Christians try to say about them.

The correct and honest thing for these people to do is just admit they see no "Signs in the Heavens," and that if they do see them in the future they will not get all carried away in their imagination and religious excitement.
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Re: Where Are "The Signs In The Heavens?"
Matthew 12:39

'Jesus answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.'
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We are in the VERY last days, the stage is nearly set:

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[link to cdn.cmjornal.xl.pt]


Here's one for ya. "Strange Cloud - The Hand of God?"
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Matthew 12:39

'Jesus answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.'
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Scripture twisting in 3,2,1 - GO!
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They are there for those who always look
they aren't there yet for some
they will never be there for others
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Re: Where Are "The Signs In The Heavens?"
Christians in Church like to claim we are in the last days, when The Bible says "Signs in the Heavens" will be occurring.

By definition, a "sign" is placed by the Sign Maker to convey a message to be read and understood by those to whom it is given. It us to be readable. Yet, these Christians cannot:

1.) Identify any specific "Signs in the Heavens" which we can see.

2.) When they do manage to supposedly identify a "Sign in the Heavens," they cannot say what it specifically says. They just give a sort of generic, previously mumbled bit of verbage. The "Signs" they point to do not actually say what the Christians try to say about them.

The correct and honest thing for these people to do is just admit they see no "Signs in the Heavens," and that if they do see them in the future they will not get all carried away in their imagination and religious excitement.
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christians pray to the ceiling
jews pray to the wall
muslims pray to the floor
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Thou shalt not tempt the Lord
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'Signs in the heavens' hummmmmm, can't recall at the moment.

I was so enchanted listening to Pauls exposition on charity this morning...it's like I'm still, well I don't rightly know. Somethings different with me that's for sure...

...think I'm gonna take the dogs for a walk.
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Better make room for pins
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Swamp gas and weather balloons!
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They are there for those who always look
they aren't there yet for some
they will never be there for others
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Well said verycool

when the starsDidFall:

'On one occasion Joseph was preaching in Kirtland in the fall of the year 1833 [October 5]. Quite a number of persons were present who did not belong to the Church; and one man, more bitter and skeptical than the others, made note with pencil and paper of the prophecy uttered on that occasion, wherein Joseph said that 'Forty days shall not pass and the stars shall fall from heaven.' ...

... "The whole heavens were lit up with the falling meteors an the countenance of the skeptic as he viewed the spectacle was plainly seen and closely watched by Brother Hancock, who said that he turned pale as death and spoke not a word. ...

... This leonid meteor shower took place on November 13, 1833, and is still regarded as one of the most spectacular showers in recorded history. [link to www.moroni10.com]
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Re: Where Are "The Signs In The Heavens?"
Matthew 12:39

'Jesus answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.'
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Shut up! So sick of christians quoting this! He said that because He showed COUNTLESS signs, but they still didn't believe Him...that's why He said it. He was saying they were wicked because they didn't believe. He didn't mean that everyone who seeks a sign or confirmation is wicked, try reading it a different way if you are even capable of that. It still says the same thing but a completely different meaning than how the retards interpret it
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Thou shalt not tempt the Lord
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putin idiots, idiots everywhere. .
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Sign falls from the heavens, 1 died 2 injured.

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Matthew 12:39

'Jesus answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69474575


Shut up! So sick of christians quoting this! He said that because He showed COUNTLESS signs, but they still didn't believe Him...that's why He said it. He was saying they were wicked because they didn't believe. He didn't mean that everyone who seeks a sign or confirmation is wicked, try reading it a different way if you are even capable of that. It still says the same thing but a completely different meaning than how the retards interpret it
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He was saying THEY were wicked and adulterous, get it?! FFS!
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Thou shalt not tempt the Lord
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putin idiots, idiots everywhere. .
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I got your idiot
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Christ lives on a remote farm in Florida out by the everglades no neighbors...Bill Clinton blew up his farm in June 2000. the farm rebuilt itself in the blink of an eye after 3 days...people were supposed to know about this but they covered it up with a tight clamp...I guess the US govt blowing up Christs house isn't news?...
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Matthew 12:39

'Jesus answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.'
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"For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth”

Three days of darkness and utter despair, this is the sign.
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The fixed stars of the ecliptic depict the Hebrew alphabet in the protoHebrew (Abraham's letters), the paleohebrew (Moses' letters) as well as the Judean script. They are in order from Aleph to Tau. The vowels are the wandering planets and they become quite apparent during a solar eclipse. This is a YaH event and you find them if you use Stellarium to go back to significant dates (such as the Exodus). One is also depicted at Hidden Mountain in Los Luna's New Mexico where the huge Decalogue stone sits (with an altar stone to YeHaUaH ELaHaYNU at the summit).

On August 28,2017 there will be a solar eclipse viewable over much of the US.
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Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea. 2And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, "Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them,…
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and again...doom sells survival products
gotta keep something going to keep sales up
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Read Immanuel Velikovsky "Worlds in Collision" for an example of the type of planetary disturbances that had occurred in the past, and will occur again in the future with even more devastation.

Hint: Mountains rose and fell as the Earth shuddered, etc.
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Christians in Church like to claim we are in the last days, when The Bible says "Signs in the Heavens" will be occurring.

By definition, a "sign" is placed by the Sign Maker to convey a message to be read and understood by those to whom it is given. It us to be readable. Yet, these Christians cannot:

1.) Identify any specific "Signs in the Heavens" which we can see.

2.) When they do manage to supposedly identify a "Sign in the Heavens," they cannot say what it specifically says. They just give a sort of generic, previously mumbled bit of verbage. The "Signs" they point to do not actually say what the Christians try to say about them.

The correct and honest thing for these people to do is just admit they see no "Signs in the Heavens," and that if they do see them in the future they will not get all carried away in their imagination and religious excitement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13600966


A sign from heaven is like that star wise man will see, and indicates the Birth of man, who shall lead the exodus out of a doomed region inhabited by dragons and other monsters. and bring salvation to those who believed in him and followed his commands or you get the Second Sun on your head.

But the Sign for us all is the star of the Sea...

King James Bible
And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.


That is the sign in the heaven... but before that can happen must a beast rise and destroy a harlot.
The Golden Man in The Moon.
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Christians in Church like to claim we are in the last days, when The Bible says "Signs in the Heavens" will be occurring.

By definition, a "sign" is placed by the Sign Maker to convey a message to be read and understood by those to whom it is given. It us to be readable. Yet, these Christians cannot:

1.) Identify any specific "Signs in the Heavens" which we can see.

2.) When they do manage to supposedly identify a "Sign in the Heavens," they cannot say what it specifically says. They just give a sort of generic, previously mumbled bit of verbage. The "Signs" they point to do not actually say what the Christians try to say about them.

The correct and honest thing for these people to do is just admit they see no "Signs in the Heavens," and that if they do see them in the future they will not get all carried away in their imagination and religious excitement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13600966




The signs in the heavens are astronomical alignments of stars, and the mainstream Christian church largely ignores them. It ignores the signs because of its aversion to astrology.

It is correct to be averse to pagan astrology but believing stars were placed in the heavens as sign markers is scriptural.


Genesis 1: 14
Then Elohim said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years;

Tradition states Daniel studied astronomy and it helped him understand prophetic calculations. The Magi from the east knew how to read these signs, and it led them to the Maschiach. It is believed Daniel studied under like Magis.

Observing constellations and alignments gives us a picture of where we are in prophetic time. Some Christians understand this, but most do not.

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Christians in Church like to claim we are in the last days, when The Bible says "Signs in the Heavens" will be occurring.

By definition, a "sign" is placed by the Sign Maker to convey a message to be read and understood by those to whom it is given. It us to be readable. Yet, these Christians cannot:

1.) Identify any specific "Signs in the Heavens" which we can see.

2.) When they do manage to supposedly identify a "Sign in the Heavens," they cannot say what it specifically says. They just give a sort of generic, previously mumbled bit of verbage. The "Signs" they point to do not actually say what the Christians try to say about them.

The correct and honest thing for these people to do is just admit they see no "Signs in the Heavens," and that if they do see them in the future they will not get all carried away in their imagination and religious excitement.
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pinned for conjecture
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A greater sign
Is What was to happen before all the signs in the heavens
100 million Christians were killed by the persecution of the papacy
As they witnessed to the nations, just like jesus said would occur
BEFORE ALL THESE THINGS
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Christians in Church like to claim we are in the last days, when The Bible says "Signs in the Heavens" will be occurring.

By definition, a "sign" is placed by the Sign Maker to convey a message to be read and understood by those to whom it is given. It us to be readable. Yet, these Christians cannot:

1.) Identify any specific "Signs in the Heavens" which we can see.

2.) When they do manage to supposedly identify a "Sign in the Heavens," they cannot say what it specifically says. They just give a sort of generic, previously mumbled bit of verbage. The "Signs" they point to do not actually say what the Christians try to say about them.

The correct and honest thing for these people to do is just admit they see no "Signs in the Heavens," and that if they do see them in the future they will not get all carried away in their imagination and religious excitement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13600966




The signs in the heavens are astronomical alignments of stars, and the mainstream Christian church largely ignores them. It ignores the signs because of its aversion to astrology.

But believing the stars were placed in the heavens in part for signs is scriptural.


Genesis 1: 14
Then Elohim said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years;

Tradition states Daniel studied astronomy and it helped him understand prophetic calculations. The Magi from the east knew how to read these signs, and it led them to the Maschiach. It is believed Daniel studied under like Magis.

Observing constellations and alignments give us a picture of where we are in prophetic time.
 Quoting: Elegant Walnut


The Magi studied under Daniel, not the other way around.

The "signs and seasons" of Genesis 1:14 refer to the Moon and the calendar. The words translated as "seasons" is the same word used to describe the annual Feastdays, which use the lunar calendar.

The Bible itself gives two examples of "signs in the heavens" - Joshua's Long Day, and Hezekiah's Retreating Sundial Shadow. Both were cause by what people on GLP refer to as a "pole shift", caused by a passing planet-sized comet.
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Here's one for ya. "Strange Cloud - The Hand of God?"
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Yes. That one is for you/ya. Something for your chatty little imagination to work with.

"Tsk, I just FEEL like it us a sign! I WANT it to be a sign, even though I do not give a shit about God and what can actually be known about Him!"
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They are there for those who always look
they aren't there yet for some
they will never be there for others
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How do you know? Are you telling God how to manage His signs?

Lol. "Well, I just feel like I thought of something ... Yethir, I did, I did."





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