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KOCH BROTHERS ENDORSE TRUMP [READ IT ALL BEFORE YOU COMMENT, PLEASE]
"YOU SAY IT BEST... WHEN YOU SAY NOTHING AT ALL"

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Sharing this post after reading about the Koch Brothers granting Donald Trump safe passage in the Primary election. This may not be an "endorsement", but it sure as hell draws a contrasting line between "enemies of Trump" and "friends of Trump".

It is a very passive move. They talk about zugzwang in the article. At first I didn't get it, but here's what I think this is really saying (without saying anything).

Basically, we are looking at Donald Trump meeting ZERO opposition from the world's second most wealthiest political donors in the history of mankind. The Koch Brothers are "showing their hand", and that (to me) seems like a very strong and high energy kind of play.

What do you think? Read everything before you comment - PLEASE. It took time to put this together, and I value any feedback you would be willing to give me.


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The Koch brothers, the most powerful conservative mega donors in the United States, will not use their $400 million political arsenal to try to block Republican front-runner Donald Trump's path to the presidential nomination, a spokesman told Reuters on Wednesday.

When Trump dodged this $400,000,000 smear campaign arsenal, he avoided a grueling battle with establishment special interests that the Koch brothers are affiliated with. Koch partners and organizations were on standby - ready and willing to tear Trump's campaign to shreds during the Primary election.

This has been avoided, due to Koch's public announcement that they will not be attacking Donald Trump during the Primary election.

By objectively dismissing Donald Trump as an enemy, the Koch Brothers are using their undeniable influence over establishment leadership to draw a line in the sand:

Side-1: Trump Is A Friend

Side-2: Trump Is An Enemy


Presently, the Koch Brothers have indicated that Trump is a friend.

Whether or not the Koch Brothers "formally endorsed" Donald Trump is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the most prolific of political donors and world's second wealthiest privately owned business decided not to consider Donald Trump an "enemy". Let that sink in.

"To put it differently, Donald Trump was given a $400-million-dollar coupon from the Koch Brothers."

The decision by the billionaire industrialists is another setback to Republican establishment efforts to derail the New York real estate mogul's bid for the White House, and follows speculation the Kochs would soon launch a "Trump Intervention."

"We have no plans to get involved in the primary," said James Davis, spokesman for Freedom Partners, the Koch brothers’ political umbrella group. He would not elaborate on what the brothers' strategy would be for the Nov. 8 election to succeed Democratic President Barack Obama.

CONFLICTING RUMORS BETWEEN ALEX JONES AND REUTERS


ZUGZWANG

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A few days ago we read of the millions they were coughing up to fight Trump.
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The statement I read was that they were withholding funds throughout the PRIMARY season--as is Sheldon Aldeson.

After that, the big guns $$ wise come out.

It will be too late tthough.
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A few days ago we read of the millions they were coughing up to fight Trump.
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Buddy, no offense, but I wrote (twice) that you need to read everything before commenting.

That's because I specifically addressed this in the OP.

Check it out.
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How sad is it all?

450 million could help a lot of people.
But no, it must be pissed away at the political casino!

Trillions of dollars wasted on politics and elections that mean nothing.

If they're wasting that much money, they know it's worthless
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The statement I read was that they were withholding funds throughout the PRIMARY season--as is Sheldon Aldeson.

After that, the big guns $$ wise come out.

It will be too late tthough.
 Quoting: Bodiless


I get the feeling you also did not read it.

If you did, I apologize, but can you tell me how you have any indication (other than an Alex Jones video) that Koch will attack Trump?

Show me some sources or something - I'm asking with humility.
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How sad is it all?

450 million could help a lot of people.
But no, it must be pissed away at the political casino!

Trillions of dollars wasted on politics and elections that mean nothing.

If they're wasting that much money, they know it's worthless
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Who said anything about this being 'sad'?
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The Koch brothers are pro-business, not the ultra-conservative types that only care about banning abortion, aren't they? I can see why they'd be more on the side of Trump.
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How sad is it all?

450 million could help a lot of people.
But no, it must be pissed away at the political casino!

Trillions of dollars wasted on politics and elections that mean nothing.

If they're wasting that much money, they know it's worthless
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71591782


Who said anything about this being 'sad'?
 Quoting: DavidBorg


Its sad you don't realize you're being played. They're playing hot potato with dollars (tm) because it's toxic.

wakey
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How sad is it all?

450 million could help a lot of people.
But no, it must be pissed away at the political casino!

Trillions of dollars wasted on politics and elections that mean nothing.

If they're wasting that much money, they know it's worthless
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71591782


Who said anything about this being 'sad'?
 Quoting: DavidBorg


Its sad you don't realize you're being played. They're playing hot potato with dollars (tm) because it's toxic.

wakey
 Quoting: mr potato head 71591782


Can you elaborate? I'm not really interested in debating someone who relies on intellectual dishonesty.
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What if they do actually support him? This is not based on anything else than speculation, but people seem to fight against whatever candidate they throw money towards. Maybe they figure he's doing well enough and would rather not mess him up with any political connections to their name? I have been wondering where they were (whose side in this election).
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How sad is it all?

450 million could help a lot of people.
But no, it must be pissed away at the political casino!

Trillions of dollars wasted on politics and elections that mean nothing.

If they're wasting that much money, they know it's worthless
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71591782


Who said anything about this being 'sad'?
 Quoting: DavidBorg


Its sad you don't realize you're being played. They're playing hot potato with dollars (tm) because it's toxic.

wakey
 Quoting: mr potato head 71591782


Can you elaborate? I'm not really interested in debating someone who relies on intellectual dishonesty.
 Quoting: DavidBorg


There is nothing intellectual about modern American politics.
It's about power (money)

Kochs are the lefts pinyata
Soros is the rights' pinyata

Pony show.
Its all bullshit
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...


Who said anything about this being 'sad'?
 Quoting: DavidBorg


Its sad you don't realize you're being played. They're playing hot potato with dollars (tm) because it's toxic.

wakey
 Quoting: mr potato head 71591782


Can you elaborate? I'm not really interested in debating someone who relies on intellectual dishonesty.
 Quoting: DavidBorg


There is nothing intellectual about modern American politics.
It's about power (money)

Kochs are the lefts pinyata
Soros is the rights' pinyata

Pony show.
Its all bullshit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71591782


You are very bad at explaining yourself. I do understand what you're "trying" to say, but I believe you are a bit intellectually dishonest when you over-simplify things like this.
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true, I am fucking retard, which is why I never talk in public.

I will go back to the cave with Sheila and my rock fire stones
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true, I am fucking retard, which is why I never talk in public.

I will go back to the cave with Sheila and my rock fire stones
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Ok.
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Fuck anyone with a $400 million political arsenal
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Need a link to wake up the sheep plzn
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Need a link to wake up the sheep plzn
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What?
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Fuck anyone with a $400 million political arsenal
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No you.
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Can someone provide intelligent conversation on this, or is this simply too complicated for this early hour?
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Can someone please take a look at this and confirm?
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The Koch brothers are pro-business, not the ultra-conservative types that only care about banning abortion, aren't they? I can see why they'd be more on the side of Trump.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55611245


Does anyone know if the Koch brothers, or trump, have acknowledged that they know each other? Trump has a lot of wealthy friends and I wonder if that includes the Koch brothers.
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"YOU SAY IT BEST... WHEN YOU SAY NOTHING AT ALL"

SOURCE: [link to government.northcrane.com]

rant

Sharing this post after reading about the Koch Brothers granting Donald Trump safe passage in the Primary election. This may not be an "endorsement", but it sure as hell draws a contrasting line between "enemies of Trump" and "friends of Trump".

It is a very passive move. They talk about zugzwang in the article. At first I didn't get it, but here's what I think this is really saying (without saying anything).

Basically, we are looking at Donald Trump meeting ZERO opposition from the world's second most wealthiest political donors in the history of mankind. The Koch Brothers are "showing their hand", and that (to me) seems like a very strong and high energy kind of play.

What do you think? Read everything before you comment - PLEASE. It took time to put this together, and I value any feedback you would be willing to give me.


SUMMARY VIDEO (For those of you who hate reading)



The Koch brothers, the most powerful conservative mega donors in the United States, will not use their $400 million political arsenal to try to block Republican front-runner Donald Trump's path to the presidential nomination, a spokesman told Reuters on Wednesday.

When Trump dodged this $400,000,000 smear campaign arsenal, he avoided a grueling battle with establishment special interests that the Koch brothers are affiliated with. Koch partners and organizations were on standby - ready and willing to tear Trump's campaign to shreds during the Primary election.

This has been avoided, due to Koch's public announcement that they will not be attacking Donald Trump during the Primary election.

By objectively dismissing Donald Trump as an enemy, the Koch Brothers are using their undeniable influence over establishment leadership to draw a line in the sand:

Side-1: Trump Is A Friend

Side-2: Trump Is An Enemy


Presently, the Koch Brothers have indicated that Trump is a friend.

Whether or not the Koch Brothers "formally endorsed" Donald Trump is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the most prolific of political donors and world's second wealthiest privately owned business decided not to consider Donald Trump an "enemy". Let that sink in.

"To put it differently, Donald Trump was given a $400-million-dollar coupon from the Koch Brothers."

The decision by the billionaire industrialists is another setback to Republican establishment efforts to derail the New York real estate mogul's bid for the White House, and follows speculation the Kochs would soon launch a "Trump Intervention."

"We have no plans to get involved in the primary," said James Davis, spokesman for Freedom Partners, the Koch brothers’ political umbrella group. He would not elaborate on what the brothers' strategy would be for the Nov. 8 election to succeed Democratic President Barack Obama.


 Quoting: DavidBorg


The donor class is getting frightened.

What happens if they spend big money against Trump and Trump and Bernie supporters point the identifying finger.

"See! This is the big money donors buying our corrupt politicians!"

Plain as fucking blue skies on a clear day.
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The statement I read was that they were withholding funds throughout the PRIMARY season--as is Sheldon Aldeson.

After that, the big guns $$ wise come out.

It will be too late tthough.
 Quoting: Bodiless


I get the feeling you also did not read it.

If you did, I apologize, but can you tell me how you have any indication (other than an Alex Jones video) that Koch will attack Trump?

Show me some sources or something - I'm asking with humility.
 Quoting: DavidBorg


Actually , I did of course read the article.

And my listed sources, I admit, are somewhat dated. That goes more toward my contention, that they and Sheldon are waiting it out until there are only two remaining candidates--one Dem one Repub. They were heinously burned in the last two election cycles:

[link to www.cnn.com]

[link to thehill.com]

[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

[link to www.washingtonmonthly.com]

[link to www.politico.com]

[link to www.politico.com]

[link to www.nbcnews.com]

[link to ourfuture.org (secure)]

The last link is probably the most telling.

Enjoy!
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Thank you for the information
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Smart move on their part.

Using 400 million for coercion is not a very righteous conservative thing to do as it requires lies and duplicity to accomplish a goal.

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I hope your right OP. Great find.

Would love to see this confirmed by another source but either way we will know soon enough.
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I hope your right OP. Great find.

Would love to see this confirmed by another source but either way we will know soon enough.
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It is confirmed by Reuters - there's a source in the article I referenced.
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Yes, and because of these game player the people got hurt.
So, they are right. If they want to get involved better after the primary starts, this way it not so bad. Hillary's in trouble who knows how that will end.

They are citizens and they also are allowed to voice an opinion just not at the expense of other citizens.
Sorry I got a headache

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How sad is it all?

450 million could help a lot of people.
But no, it must be pissed away at the political casino!

Trillions of dollars wasted on politics and elections that mean nothing.

If they're wasting that much money, they know it's worthless
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71591782

the funny part is Rubio will get paid in cash.





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