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I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?

 
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I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
Hello, I'm just curious how anyone can believe a murderer who repents is more deserving of salvation and heaven than say, an atheist who has never harmed a soul or broken any laws,who does not repent.

That doesn't sound like divine justice to me.

How can anyone claim to know what God wants anyways? The problem with the bible, or any holy book is that it could have been altered by man dozens of times. You're relying on man to convey the supposed message of god while assuming the message hasn't been changed or tampered with.

Please , avoid using scriptures.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
yes you have really sinned..just like the rest of us.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
Hello, I'm just curious how anyone can believe a murderer who repents is more deserving of salvation and heaven than say, an atheist who has never harmed a soul or broken any laws,who does not repent.

That doesn't sound like divine justice to me.

How can anyone claim to know what God wants anyways? The problem with the bible, or any holy book is that it could have been altered by man dozens of times. You're relying on man to convey the supposed message of god while assuming the message hasn't been changed or tampered with.

Please , avoid using scriptures.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
yes you have really sinned..just like the rest of us.
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I stole a chocolate bar when I was 10.
I lied a couple times about being sick, because I didn't want to work. .
I've had sex without being married.. but never committed adultery..
I once did 20 over the speed limit..

That's about it..
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
You have to have a personal relationship with God, nothing less.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
yes you have really sinned..just like the rest of us.
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I stole a chocolate bar when I was 10.
I lied a couple times about being sick, because I didn't want to work. .
I've had sex without being married.. but never committed adultery..
I once did 20 over the speed limit..

That's about it..
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If that makes me deserving of hell.. I guess God is a little kid who likes burning ants with a magnifying glass..
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
No logic, only dogma.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
You have to have a personal relationship with God, nothing less.
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I can't have a personal relationship with someone I've never met. Or who in all likelihood doesn't exist.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
There is nobody who has never sinned, except for jesus. We all fall short. You are deceived
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
And how do you know yours is even the "right religion"
Chances are you were born and raised your religion, so it's hard wired into you.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
Even if you haven't sinned you have inherited sin. Thats why you need Jesus. Otherwise you will burn in HELL forever. If your kids are self righteous like you, they also will burn in hell forever. Because sin is INHERITED.

Read John 3:16 and save yourself, you sinner.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
You have to have a personal relationship with God, nothing less.
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What's that entail? I always thought a personal relationship was, you know, personal. You talk in person, have lunch, etc. but saying you have a relationship with an invisible man who supposedly lived 2000 years ago is psycho.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
There is nobody who has never sinned, except for jesus. We all fall short. You are deceived
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Nah, I don't believe that.
While it would be extremely rare, I'm sure there are people who have lived there life free of all "sin" without god.
I guess it all depends on what you call sin.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
There are copies of the scriptures found from throughout tine. They are all the same. If they were changed it would be obvious, we would be able to recognise the changes, yet none of these claims provide any proof.

Even the dead sea scrols had Jews and Christians a little nervous due to the fact they may have been different to the modern day translations. Once they were analysed, they were the same.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God"

Romans 3:23
Genesis-Acts,Hebrews-Revelation to, you know who
Romans-Philemon to the Church
Mid-Acts Pauline Dispensational Right Division
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
Even if you haven't sinned you have inherited sin. Thats why you need Jesus. Otherwise you will burn in HELL forever. If your kids are self righteous like you, they also will burn in hell forever. Because sin is INHERITED.

Read John 3:16 and save yourself, you sinner.
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Inherited sin? Like ...karma?
So I'm responsible for gengis khan? Because I might be very distantly related?
Nah, I can't see an all mighty god judging people on what their great grandfather they never met did.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
There are copies of the scriptures found from throughout tine. They are all the same. If they were changed it would be obvious, we would be able to recognise the changes, yet none of these claims provide any proof.

Even the dead sea scrols had Jews and Christians a little nervous due to the fact they may have been different to the modern day translations. Once they were analysed, they were the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71612402


..the book of Thomas?
"Worship me not in buildings of wood and stone, lift a piece of wood and I am there, split a piece of wood and you shall find me"
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
If you lived long enough you would murder someone. Ignorance is a sin
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
Why are you worried about hell if you don't believe?
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
You have to have a personal relationship with God, nothing less.
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What\'s that entail? I always thought a personal relationship was, you know, personal. You talk in person, have lunch, etc. but saying you have a relationship with an invisible man who supposedly lived 2000 years ago is psycho.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51300494


First of all get rid of your wrong ideas about. Jesus was the son, not God himself. In monotheism. Read the bible for yourself to avoid the lies of churchianity.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
There are copies of the scriptures found from throughout tine. They are all the same. If they were changed it would be obvious, we would be able to recognise the changes, yet none of these claims provide any proof.

Even the dead sea scrols had Jews and Christians a little nervous due to the fact they may have been different to the modern day translations. Once they were analysed, they were the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71612402


So the old and new test' are exactly the same?
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
Even if you haven't sinned you have inherited sin. Thats why you need Jesus. Otherwise you will burn in HELL forever. If your kids are self righteous like you, they also will burn in hell forever. Because sin is INHERITED.

Read John 3:16 and save yourself, you sinner.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69595989


you threatened him AND is kids with burning in hell forever?

fuck you and your satanic god
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
If you lived long enough you would murder someone. Ignorance is a sin
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OK there pal. Speaking for the entire human race..
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
You can't reason with religious people. Nothing they say has been proven. They just want to scare the weak minded and those who suffer to control them, to steal money from them.

Thats what it is all about money and power.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
So you don't believe in heaven, but you want to go sit in heaven with the believers when you don't believe in Christ yourself? How fucking fucked up are you? For fuck sakes...

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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
Even if you haven't sinned you have inherited sin. Thats why you need Jesus. Otherwise you will burn in HELL forever. If your kids are self righteous like you, they also will burn in hell forever. Because sin is INHERITED.

Read John 3:16 and save yourself, you sinner.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69595989


you threatened him AND is kids with burning in hell forever?

fuck you and your satanic god
 Quoting: Atheist Rabbi 36437403


Supposedly he's just conveying the message of god.
It's really god who wants to burn me and my kids, unless we kneel down and kiss his feet.
I wouldn't of thought a loving God would need to use death and torture threats.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
You would be judged by your conscience.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
So you don't believe in heaven, but you want to go sit in heaven with the believers when you don't believe in Christ yourself? How fucking fucked up are you? For fuck sakes...

putin
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Nah, I'm just trying to wrap my head around how the religious brain works.. I personally think religion is dangerous.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
Never really sinned...
and there we write down another LIE from the OP.

The logic is, you're a liar OP.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
Never really sinned...
and there we write down another LIE from the OP.

The logic is, you're a liar OP.
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Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
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Re: I don't believe in god, yet have never really sinned. According to Christians I am a monster and will go to hell, where's the logic?
yes you have really sinned..just like the rest of us.
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I stole a chocolate bar when I was 10.
I lied a couple times about being sick, because I didn't want to work. .
I've had sex without being married.. but never committed adultery..
I once did 20 over the speed limit..

That's about it..
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If that makes me deserving of hell.. I guess God is a little kid who likes burning ants with a magnifying glass..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21873883


That is exactly who God is. The thing is....he will treat all these self righteous Christians to the same hell fire you will go to. God is evil beyond what we could ever imagine.

It is funny that Jesus never said anything about a personal relationship. He said the road is narrow and few get in. He drove a hard bargain and said he came with a sword....not to bring peace. He and his father are both wicked.

The Pharisees were the religious people who knew Scripture and Jesus called them sons of Satan. Jesus told people who did miracles in his name that he never knew them. Only a very, very few go to heaven. Most are lukewarm and Jesus spits them out.

Jesus told a good man who had followed every law that he had to still do more. Give everything to the poor because it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to go to heaven.

These Christians will get the same treatment they judged others as worthy of getting. The only difference is they will get blindsided on judgment day.





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