The babylon of Revelation 18 is not the Roman Church | |
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Rev Woo-Woo User ID: 62155429 United States 03/26/2016 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Babylon is a system The current system controlling the world - money, government, organized religion. “If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.” Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace "But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8 "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71886199 Brazil 03/26/2016 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It surely is. But it is not the babylon described in Revelation 18. You gotta learn how to identify what is described in the bible. For isntance, there are many earthquakes every year, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are the quakes described in the bible. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71886199 Brazil 03/26/2016 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Untrue. Rev_11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. Jesus died in the roman empire? No. Rev_21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, |
Atheist Rabbi User ID: 71477018 United States 03/26/2016 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It surely is. But it is not the babylon described in Revelation 18. You gotta learn how to identify what is described in the bible. For isntance, there are many earthquakes every year, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are the quakes described in the bible. it is. it is the home of the NYSE and the big apple where the serpent resides. who is donald trump. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71886199 Brazil 03/26/2016 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It surely is. But it is not the babylon described in Revelation 18. You gotta learn how to identify what is described in the bible. For isntance, there are many earthquakes every year, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are the quakes described in the bible. it is. it is the home of the NYSE and the big apple where the serpent resides. who is donald trump. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12209691 United States 03/26/2016 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its definitely not the Roman catholic church. People who know biblical geography know that. Every City covering biblical babylon is in saudi and Iraq. The bible is very clear who the dragon of Revelation is. Islam.. 28 Behold an horrible vision, and the appearance thereof from the east: 29 Where the nations of the dragons of Arabia shall come out with many chariots, and the multitude of them shall be carried as the wind upon earth, that all they which hear them may fear and tremble. 30 Also the Carmanians raging in wrath shall go forth as the wild boars of the wood, and with great power shall they come, and join battle with them, and shall waste a portion of the land of the Assyrians. 31 And then shall the dragons have the upper hand, remembering their nature; and if they shall turn themselves, conspiring together in great power to persecute them, 32 Then these shall be troubled bled, and keep silence through their power, and shall flee. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12209691 United States 03/26/2016 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its definitely not the Roman catholic church. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12209691 People who know biblical geography know that. Every City covering biblical babylon is in saudi and Iraq. The bible is very clear who the dragon of Revelation is. Islam.. 28 Behold an horrible vision, and the appearance thereof from the east: 29 Where the nations of the dragons of Arabia shall come out with many chariots, and the multitude of them shall be carried as the wind upon earth, that all they which hear them may fear and tremble. 30 Also the Carmanians raging in wrath shall go forth as the wild boars of the wood, and with great power shall they come, and join battle with them, and shall waste a portion of the land of the Assyrians. 31 And then shall the dragons have the upper hand, remembering their nature; and if they shall turn themselves, conspiring together in great power to persecute them, 32 Then these shall be troubled bled, and keep silence through their power, and shall flee. Isiah 17-24 tells you who Babylon is. And its saudi arabia |
Atheist Rabbi User ID: 68425436 United States 03/26/2016 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It surely is. But it is not the babylon described in Revelation 18. You gotta learn how to identify what is described in the bible. For isntance, there are many earthquakes every year, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are the quakes described in the bible. it is. it is the home of the NYSE and the big apple where the serpent resides. who is donald trump. its deeper than you think. its all about currency. some worship currency as money. but the real currency is electric. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71867922 Israel 03/26/2016 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "great city" is symbolism in Rev for the holy roman empire. You must first come to terms with 1260 years in Bible prophecy that correctly identifies the HRE-beast. that great city is vatican city. that pope that wears a dress is the whore. I don't really need to justify Jerusalem against what revelation says... it was written by rome anyway, and like the NT it is designed to lie and create anti Semitism. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71886199 Brazil 03/26/2016 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its definitely not the Roman catholic church. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12209691 People who know biblical geography know that. Every City covering biblical babylon is in saudi and Iraq. The bible is very clear who the dragon of Revelation is. Islam.. islam didn't kill the prophets. Jesuralem did according to what is posted in the OP. islam didn't even exist when the prophets died. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71886199 Brazil 03/26/2016 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Seven Hills of Rome (Italian: Sette colli di Roma [ˈsɛtte ˈkɔlli di ˈroːma], Latin: Septem montes Romae) east of the river Tiber form the geographical heart of Rome, within the walls of the city. Quoting: YAHUZADAK 12198620 The seven hills are:[1] Aventine Hill (Latin, Aventinus; Italian, Aventino) Caelian Hill (Caelius, Celio) Capitoline Hill (Capitolinus, Campidoglio) Esquiline Hill (Esquilinus, Esquilino) Palatine Hill (Palatinus, Palatino) Quirinal Hill (Quirinalis, Quirinale) Viminal Hill (Viminalis, Viminale) The Vatican Hill (Latin Collis Vaticanus) lying northwest of the Tiber, the Pincian Hill (Latin Mons Pincius), lying to the north, and the Janiculum Hill (Latin Ianiculum), lying to the west, are not counted among the traditional Seven Hills. ◄ Revelation 17:9 ► "This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. That doesn't have anything to do with the OP at all. That is Revelation 17, another whore. Did you even read the OP or just trolling? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42109917 United States 03/26/2016 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hundreds of historical books based on fact spanning over 400 years disagree: • The Babylonian Captivity of the Church by Martin Luther, 1520 • Expositions of Scripture and Practice of Prelates by William Tyndale, 1536 • Institutes of The Christian Religion by John Calvin, 1536 • The Works of The English Reformers in Three Volumes (Volumes 1-3), 1536 • Writings of Tyndale, Frith, and Barnes, 1536 • Table Talk by Martin Luther, 1566 • Fox's Book of Martyrs by John Foxe, 1580 • Of Plimoth plantation by William Bradford, 1620 • The Provincial Letters by Blaise Pascal, 1657 • Of Antichrist, and his-ruin: and of the Slaying the Witnesses by John Bunyan, 1692 • A Vanished Arcadia Account of Jesuits in Paraguay by R. B. Cunninghame Graham, 1760 • The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (Volumes 1-12) by Edward Gibbon, 1776 • Romanism contradictory to the Bible : or, The peculiar tenets of the Church of Rome ; as exhibited in her accredited formularies contrasted with the Holy Scriptures by Thomas Hartwell Horne, 1827 • Light On Masonry by David Bernard, 1829 • A Foreign Conspiracy: Against the Liberties of The US by Samuel Morse, 1835 • The Thrilling Mysteries Of A Convent Revealed by T.B. Peterson, 1835 • Awful Disclosures of Maria Monk and Mysteries of a Convent by T.B. Peterson, 1836 • The Principles of The Jesuits- Extracts From It's Own Authors by J.G and F. Rivington, 1839 • Lectures on Romanism by Joseph F. Berg, 1840 • The Great Apostasy Identical with Papal Rome by Joseph F Berg, 1842 • Papal Rome as it is by a Roman by L. Giustiniani, 1843 • Rome's Policy Towards The Bible- or Papal Efforts to Suppress the Scriptures in The Last Five Centuries, Exposed by An American Citizen, 1844 • The Wandering Jew- A Tale of the Jesuits by Eugene Sue, 1844 • History of Romanism by John Dowling, 1845 • The Roman Church and Modern Society by Edgar Quintet, 1845 • Investigation of the Professed and General Principles of Exposition of Scriptural prophecies, and Especially of the Apocalypse by Cheltenham, 1847 • History of the Jesuits (Volumes 1-3) by Andrew Steinmetz, 1848 • The Jesuit Conspiracy The Secret Plan Of The Order by The Abbate Leone, 1848 • The Latin church during Anglo-Saxon times by Henry Soames, 1848 • Subterranean Rome by Carlos Didier, 1848 • On The Decline of Protestantism by Joseph F. Berg, 1850 • True Protestantism by T. 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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 71886199 Brazil 03/26/2016 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "come out of her" is for he whore of Babylon(that's the church)...conversely jews are commanded to go back to Israel...two opposite statements, one tells you who is the whore Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70567027 Only the 144k israelites are to be at mount sinai during the great tribulation. The rest is commanded to leave so your comment is not biblical. |
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Machine42 User ID: 70907196 United States 03/26/2016 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 16 And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! This chapter very clearly depicts the roman catholic church. Scarlet and purple. Rest my case. Not New York, obviously the Vatican. You people really like to twist the bible to fit whatever it is you want to believe. |