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The Demiurge
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dogman17 |
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It's not conceivable that there was nothing.
What does nothing mean?
We recognize Spacial Dimensions, and what we call Time is the change in position of two things relative to each other broken into a measurement(that we create). Atomic time is the 'vibration' of atoms (the change in position of electrons in the atom).
How can there ever have been no Atoms?
The Simple explanation is the 'Singularity'. That at the beginning of 'Time' everything was compressed into a single point. (There was no 'space' and therefore no 'time'. The mass of this point was so great that the force of gravity exploded it and space and time begin.
Theoretically this happens over and over and over. Theoretically this allows for other dimensions where the same process has occurred.
But, can this have always been? Or, must it itself have had a start and then what was there before that?
The Demiurge is the allowance that this did have a beginning, it was put in motion by a 'God'; but, that God may not actually be supreme over the greater process and only supreme in the sense that he began this particular universe. In which case, other transcendent beings maybe have influence here.
Without this you have the inexplicable of infinite infinities.
Quoting: Craazee8 Though the thread writer thinks it is inconceivable, why must he believe that there was ever NOTHING? It is much more likely that there was always SOMETHING. And it is much more likely that there never has been a beginning. Things change and they stay the same. Our current universe is most likely a burp out of the multiverse. No need for a demiurge or a personal God to have ever gotten involved. Quoting: dogman17 To cite infinity as the solution raises the question, musn't there have been a start to it? Quoting: Craazee8 Why? Really? What was there then before "a start to it?"
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