The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was not to make people believe he is not real. It was to make humans believe they are gods.

So much truth to this post. Thank you.

Very well put. Thank you for posting this.

Last Edited by FairQueue on 05/02/2016 12:07 PM

It's true.

I'm glad Jesus is my lawyer and not the DA.

jesus cant help you. he lives in the gamma quadrant, its like 10k light years away.

you can help yourself.
the tooth fairy has more merit than jesus

From a former "believer" don't you feel stuck in a labyrinth of beliefs? That was and is the goal, the saints realized this just before they went insane. The one and only true "test" is our inner voice, the human instinct that can uncover any lie, if we'll only listen to it. It will pester and bother us relentlessly from the inside, asking the question "Is this really what I believe and stand for"?
The handful of true things Jesus said that were not altered included the compelling challenge to the pharisees by Christ that the scripture itself says we humans are in fact "..as gods'.
The biggest lie perpetrated by the controllers upon humanity is to believe that divinity is EXTERNAL, a 'savior' out there somewhere, coming to save us from "sinning" selves. You could not come up with a better psychological construct to take away power and create fear and disempowerment! If we are 'born sinners' how is it that you look around and see such great human examples of selfless love, compassion and dedication to serving others? It is BECAUSE humans are capable of transformation and change - that is the aspect of divinity that differentiates us from the lie that we are inherently bad, or less than.
"Evil" is not some external force, it is a potential WITHIN each of us, a shadow' just like "light" or "goodness" that is part of the internal dialogue, conversation and evolution of a human being in this world. The mechanism of spiritual development is so simple - human beings facing & overcoming their own"shadow", their "darkness" to advance their purpose, their cause and their own evolution. The "LIE" is to give away sovereignty to something external ("satan", evil, etc. ) in the face of examples of the sheer power of human divinity - the ability to grow and transform negative and positive aspects of ourselves through growth and through inevitable but necessary struggle.

From a former "believer" don't you feel stuck in a labyrinth of beliefs? That was and is the goal, the saints realized this just before they went insane. The one and only true "test" is our inner voice, the human instinct that can uncover any lie, if we'll only listen to it. It will pester and bother us relentlessly from the inside, asking the question "Is this really what I believe and stand for"?
The handful of true things Jesus said that were not altered included the compelling challenge to the pharisees by Christ that the scripture itself says we humans are in fact "..as gods'.
The biggest lie perpetrated by the controllers upon humanity is to believe that divinity is EXTERNAL, a 'savior' out there somewhere, coming to save us from "sinning" selves. You could not come up with a better psychological construct to take away power and create fear and disempowerment! If we are 'born sinners' how is it that you look around and see such great human examples of selfless love, compassion and dedication to serving others? It is BECAUSE humans are capable of transformation and change - that is the aspect of divinity that differentiates us from the lie that we are inherently bad, or less than.
"Evil" is not some external force, it is a potential WITHIN each of us, a shadow' just like "light" or "goodness" that is part of the internal dialogue, conversation and evolution of a human being in this world. The mechanism of spiritual development is so simple - human beings facing & overcoming their own"shadow", their "darkness" to advance their purpose, their cause and their own evolution. The "LIE" is to give away sovereignty to something external ("satan", evil, etc. ) in the face of examples of the sheer power of human divinity - the ability to grow and transform negative and positive aspects of ourselves through growth and through inevitable but necessary struggle.

book worshipers of all flavors and atheists, have a problem with the words "truth" and "real".

I 'give up' on you scripted or disillusioned idiots. Didn't even read past the title

Last Edited by LIGHT BEARER on 05/02/2016 01:00 PM

The only thing correct about the above thread was the statement "we KNOW what is right and what is wrong." This is true morality. WHO believes they are gods?? The devil is as imaginary as Santa Claus. I agree that Jesus was maybe the best person to have ever lived -- he taught us how to love. Why make him into a God? And how does the thread writer know to tell us so confidently that "The end is not far away"?

Last Edited by dogman17 on 05/02/2016 01:10 PM

You did a good job bumping the thread though.

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Well that is just pure bullshit. I don't believe in any gods or religious texts and I don't contribute to any of these things. You may also be interested, although I know you will just ignore, that countries with the highest levels of non-believers also lead the lists in lowest crime and poverty.

And no, I also don't believe that I am a god. That nonsensical thought can only come from someone who just can't understand what it's like to not believe.

As I said in the original post. Any argument of the fact that the Bible contains the truth from God is in itself a person showoing that they themselves are vying to be their own god.

I hear people literally using God's words as their own, as if they created the words and the truth in the Bible. I hear people saying to look inside.

The Bible tells us the proper way to live and exist, and is demonstrably true through real world examples.

You can call me names, ridicule, try and work out your own personal philosophy to get around the Bible and God, but all you are doing, again, is saying, "I am my own god, I will have none before me"

Which, again, is exactly what the Bible says people will say when confronted with the Truth.

You are proving the argument. And the Bible is the only source that will tell you that. Because there is no other truth, the only thing other than that is every religious teaching which can fit in with the world system.

The Bible is the udoing of the world system.

Repent, accept Jesus Christ.

Amen

Thank you

Imagine u could travel to all the stars..Or even all the places on earth.

Places where people had never heard of your god. Never written or believes. They simply lived.

By beliving this mind trick is doing exactly what u said not to do. You are doing anything but gods work by following the bible.

God got you here, and equipped you with all the tools you need. You do not need to listen to someone else, or impress a "god". If it is one being, they do not need your approval. Your forgiveness, they need nothing from you. By your logic it is a gift. So live!

Almost all religious texts are outdated slightly. Obviously we are in a time where our morals are being twisted. But one must have the mental maturity to discern the difference between disception and critical self thinking.

No reasonable man would deal in absolutes in a time and place that is so short and unknown.

It is logical to deduce that god created such a miracle, ever changing ever evolving, for us, that not even a god would be stricken by stubborness or absolutes.

Here is an example, a trick America played on everyone.

War starts and we need soldiers to fight for resources we want. But you don't want to go to war? That's easy. Your freedom is at stake, If you don't protect the ones you love their freedom is at stake and they could be killed by foreign savages.

Brainwashed.

So now you are tricked and in a position where you are fighting for complete insanity on humanity, all because you were blackmailed into protecting your own mother.

Or perhaps the fight is in your home? Are you going to protect your family or sit and do nothing, pure to gods judgement.

It is inevitable we must cross into this dark time. Everyone will be tested. You must do whats best. No thing not evne god could explain how to live life in every situation through words.

Some lessons have to be learned. If it didn't kill you, it wouldn't work.

God keeps it so real, trust me.


So.. long story short, be yourself, trust yourself, dont fuck with other peoples free will. Don't be an asshole, help yourself, but learn to live for someone else.

Sadly the sickness of america has spread deep into the minds of many.

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was to convince you that he did not use no double negative sentence.

LOL, you sure are a funny one. You rig the game so that only yourself can win.

Why even post on a "discussion" board if you are just going to do this..

Predicting people are going to call you out on your bullshit before they do, doesn't validate your story because you smelt it before they did.

It's your shit..

So you are saying the truth can't be true because the Bible states it.

I see. Intriguing.

Where on Earth did you get that? That sentence doesn't even make sense.

I'm saying that you are wrong in stating that people who don't believe in god somehow devolve into some anarchist position where anything goes. It's demonstrably not true.

It depends on what you believe about the human heart. It is either wicked from birth, or we are born generally good.

Eastern philosophy and new age teach that we are born to evolve into something better. The truth is the obvious. Given the freedom to do as they wish, humans generally DO commit wicked acts and do evil things. It is our nature, or as the Bible calls it, our "sin nature".

The closest I could come to a peaceful religion apart from the Bible would be Buddhism. It entails large amounts of meditation and connecting with spirits which are given entrance into the body. The Bible calls these demons. The Buddhist is no closer to saving themselves than anyone else, they simply check out mentally and call it peace. They also believe that generally there is no right or wrong, and this is not a livable worldview in the larger sense. While I respect their views on peace, they are channeling evil forces.

The Bible, again, tells us how to live, right from wrong, and God's will, and these things are, again, demostrably true. There is no argument against it, other than taking the Scriptures and acting as if they are truths known through the ages. They aren't. They are truths told only in the Bible.

The Bile literally says that life is in the blood, hat Jews were to wash their hands to stay clean, and many other truths not known to modern science for centuries.

Taken to it's logical conclusion, the Bible is verifiably true on world history, prophecy and how to live a moral life. It is not vague on these points, but specific.

I am not sauying there is no argument to try and win the debate. I am saying it because to argue against the truth is a losing battle.

I mean, I can say, if you fall off that building, you will die. You can argue all you want, but if you fall, it will happen. The only argument is that you don't want it to be true.

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nicely put

jews love you believing in their made up nonsense so that you continue worshiping jews.

evil is real. the devil not so much.

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Adam and Eve did'n had sex and make kids untill Adam "ate" the forbidden fruit from the middle of the garden (body).
Now what do you think was that fruit?