Zoo Keeper, Amanda O'Donoughue, a reasoned response to the Gorilla story...

Dumb zoo with safety holes and dumb parents.

Poor gorilla

The kid thing is just a cover up: The Gorilla was a high ranking astronomer researching Planet X / Nibiru.
Another astronomer killed by TPTB.
Sorry no vids - all classified.



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Here's from an eyewitness that was there, this is from her public Facebook page.


Deidre Lykins
with David Lykins.
May 29 at 7:11am ·

My family and I decided to go to the zoo yesterday after visiting my neice at Cincinnati Childrens hospital. For those of you that have already heard, there was a terrible accident there yesterday. And since every news media has covered this story, I don't feel bad telling our side. This was an accident! ! A terrible accident, but just that! My husband's voice is the voice talking to the child in one of the videos. I was taking a pic of the female gorilla, when my eldest son yells, "what is he doing? " I looked down, and to my surprise, there was a small child that had apparently, literally "flopped" over the railing, where there was then about 3 feet of ground that the child quickly crawled through! ! I assumed the woman next to me was the mother, getting ready to grab him until she says, "Whose kid is this? " None of us actually thought he'd go over the nearly 15 foot drop, but he was crawling so fast through the bushes before myself or husband could grab him, he went over! The crowed got a little frantic and the mother was calling for her son. Actually, just prior to him going over, but she couldn't see him crawling through the bushes! She said "He was right here! I took a pic and his hand was in my back pocket and then gone!" As she could find him nowhere, she lookes to my husband (already over the railing talking to the child) and asks, "Sir, is he wearing green shorts? " My husband reluctantly had to tell her yes, when she then nearly had a break down! They are both wanting to go over into the 15 foot drop, when I forbade my husband to do so, and attempted to calm the mother by calling 911 and assure her help was on the way. Neither my husband or the mother would have made that jump without breaking something! I wasn't leaving with my boys, because I didn't trust my husband not to jump in and the gorilla did just seem to be protective of the child. It wasn't until the gorilla became agitated because of the nosey, dramatic, helpless crowd; that the gorilla violently ran with the child! And it was very violent; although I think the gorilla was still trying to protect, we're taking a 400 lb gorilla throwing a 40 lb toddler around! It was horrific! The zoo responded very quickly, clearing the area and attempting to save both the child and the gorilla! The right choice was made. Thank God the child survived with non-life threatening, but serious injuries! This was an open exhibit! Which means the only thing separating you from the gorillas, is a 15 ish foot drop and a moat and some bushes! ! This mother was not negligent and the zoo did an awesome job handling the situation! Especially since that had never happened before! ! Thankful for the zoo and their attempts and my thoughts and prayers goes out to this boy, his mother and his family.



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You obviously don't have children, so STFU.

The parents are 100% to blame

Do you let your child walk into traffic?

nice.

And this is when child leashes are handy. I m sorry but if you have more than one child, lots of distraction in a busy dangerous place you take precaution. A leash is not a bad idea for dumb ass toddlers.

You obviously don't have children, so STFU.

I forgot to say dumb crowd. Whoever screamed in that video went full retard.

and once again nature pays with the stupidity of humanity.

Great job folks

The parents are 100% to blame

Do you let your child walk into traffic?

Zoo should of had better SAFTEY measurements to keep kids or any human from being able to get in an exhibit

I'm sure every parent has had situation when thier child got hurt witching blink of an eye

No way am I sticking up for parents but as much as they should of bein keeping eye on thier child the zoo shouldn't of have had to that way to get in exibjt

Here's from an eyewitness that was there, this is from her public Facebook page.


Deidre Lykins
with David Lykins.
May 29 at 7:11am ·

My family and I decided to go to the zoo yesterday after visiting my neice at Cincinnati Childrens hospital. For those of you that have already heard, there was a terrible accident there yesterday. And since every news media has covered this story, I don't feel bad telling our side. This was an accident! ! A terrible accident, but just that! My husband's voice is the voice talking to the child in one of the videos. I was taking a pic of the female gorilla, when my eldest son yells, "what is he doing? " I looked down, and to my surprise, there was a small child that had apparently, literally "flopped" over the railing, where there was then about 3 feet of ground that the child quickly crawled through! ! I assumed the woman next to me was the mother, getting ready to grab him until she says, "Whose kid is this? " None of us actually thought he'd go over the nearly 15 foot drop, but he was crawling so fast through the bushes before myself or husband could grab him, he went over! The crowed got a little frantic and the mother was calling for her son. Actually, just prior to him going over, but she couldn't see him crawling through the bushes! She said "He was right here! I took a pic and his hand was in my back pocket and then gone!" As she could find him nowhere, she lookes to my husband (already over the railing talking to the child) and asks, "Sir, is he wearing green shorts? " My husband reluctantly had to tell her yes, when she then nearly had a break down! They are both wanting to go over into the 15 foot drop, when I forbade my husband to do so, and attempted to calm the mother by calling 911 and assure her help was on the way. Neither my husband or the mother would have made that jump without breaking something! I wasn't leaving with my boys, because I didn't trust my husband not to jump in and the gorilla did just seem to be protective of the child. It wasn't until the gorilla became agitated because of the nosey, dramatic, helpless crowd; that the gorilla violently ran with the child! And it was very violent; although I think the gorilla was still trying to protect, we're taking a 400 lb gorilla throwing a 40 lb toddler around! It was horrific! The zoo responded very quickly, clearing the area and attempting to save both the child and the gorilla! The right choice was made. Thank God the child survived with non-life threatening, but serious injuries! This was an open exhibit! Which means the only thing separating you from the gorillas, is a 15 ish foot drop and a moat and some bushes! ! This mother was not negligent and the zoo did an awesome job handling the situation! Especially since that had never happened before! ! Thankful for the zoo and their attempts and my thoughts and prayers goes out to this boy, his mother and his family.



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The parents are 100% to blame

Do you let your child walk into traffic?

When my sons were small, we rented a double stroller at the zoo. My 2 and 4 year-olds rode and my 7 year-old helped me push. Same with a shopping cart in stores.

I'm tired of this "you must not have kids" or "they take off before you know it". I never gave mine the chance to take off.

If I wasn't using strollers or shopping carts, I was holding their hands.

They never once got out of my sight. They wanted to, sure, and they would have, but like I said, I never gave them a chance.

At home, they could run. In public places--no free range.

he's right you know
parents should be sued for all expenses

VIA FAKEBOOK

Amanda O'Donoughue
8 hrs ·


I am going to try to clear up a few things that have been weighing on me about Harambe and the Cinci Zoo since I read the news this afternoon.

I have worked with Gorillas as a zookeeper while in my twenties (before children) and they are my favorite animal (out of dozens) that I have ever worked closely with. I am gonna go ahead and list a few facts, thoughts and opinions for those of you that aren't familiar with the species itself, or how a zoo operates in emergency situations.

Now Gorillas are considered 'gentle giants' at least when compared with their more aggressive cousins the chimpanzee, but a 400+ pound male in his prime is as strong as roughly 10 adult humans. What can you bench press? OK, now multiply that number by ten. An adult male silverback gorilla has one job, to protect his group. He does this by bluffing or intimidating anything that he feels threatened by.

Gorillas are considered a Class 1 mammal, the most dangerous class of mammals in the animal kingdom, again, merely due to their size and strength. They are grouped in with other apes, tigers, lions, bears, etc.
While working in an AZA accredited zoo with Apes, keepers DO NOT work in contact with them. Meaning they do NOT go in with these animals. There is always a welded mesh barrier between the animal and the humans.

In more recent decades, zoos have begun to redesign enclosures, removing all obvious caging and attempting to create a seamless view of the animals for the visitor to enjoy watching animals in a more natural looking habitat. *this is great until little children begin falling into exhibits* which of course can happen to anyone, especially in a crowded zoo-like setting.

I have watched this video over again, and with the silverback's postering, and tight lips, it's pretty much the stuff of any keeper's nightmares, and I have had MANY while working with them. This job is not for the complacent. Gorillas are kind, curious, and sometimes silly, but they are also very large, very strong animals. I always brought my OCD to work with me. checking and rechecking locks to make sure my animals and I remained separated before entering to clean.

I keep hearing that the Gorilla was trying to protect the boy. I do not find this to be true. Harambe reaches for the boys hands and arms, but only to position the child better for his own displaying purposes.

Males do very elaborate displays when highly agitated, slamming and dragging things about. Typically they would drag large branches, barrels and heavy weighted balls around to make as much noise as possible. Not in an effort to hurt anyone or anything (usually) but just to intimidate. It was clear to me that he was reacting to the screams coming from the gathering crowd.

Harambe was most likely not going to separate himself from that child without seriously hurting him first (again due to mere size and strength, not malicious intent) Why didn't they use treats? well, they attempted to call them off exhibit (which animals hate), the females in the group came in, but Harambe did not. What better treat for a captive animal than a real live kid!
They didn't use Tranquilizers for a few reasons,

A. Harambe would've taken too long to become immobilized, and could have really injured the child in the process as the drugs used may not work quickly enough depending on the stress of the situation and the dose

B. Harambe would've have drowned in the moat if immobilized in the water, and possibly fallen on the boy trapping him and drowning him as well.

Many zoos have the protocol to call on their expertly trained dart team in the event of an animal escape or in the event that a human is trapped with a dangerous animal. They will evaluate the scene as quickly and as safely as possible, and will make the most informed decision as how they will handle the animal.

I can't point fingers at anyone in this situation, but we need to really evaluate the safety of the animal enclosures from the visitor side. Not impeding that view is a tough one, but their should be no way that someone can find themselves inside of an animal's exhibit.

I know one thing for sure, those keepers lost a beautiful, and I mean gorgeous silverback and friend. I feel their loss with them this week.

As educators and conservators of endangered species, all we can do is shine a light on the beauty and majesty of these animals in hopes to spark a love and a need to keep them from vanishing from our planet.

Child killers, they are not. It's unfortunate for the conservation of the species, and the loss of revenue a beautiful zoo such as Cinci will lose. tragedy all around.

*me working (very carefully) with a 400+ pound silverback circa 2009

(photo was supplied)


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So, what should society do about it, build a six foot high fence between the sidewalk and any road surface that would protect them from possibly getting hit by a car?

Man, this could have been written by my Mom.

Back in the 60's she had 4 of us kids- 2 years apart.

Working full-time, making sure we had a hot meal and were bathed every evening before attending to our homework, keeping an immaculate household and all of us in clean, pressed clothes she SHOULD have been exhausted. Dad worked two, full-time jobs.

Yet we still frequently attended family outings (including places like zoos, parks, a family farm where we helped harvest the wheat, milked cows, and worked around dangerous situations).

You know what the difference was?

Before any activity we were explained how we were to behave and if we so much as violated one rule we headed home. NO EXCEPTIONS!

We also grew up knowing the words, "STOP!" What that meant was no matter what we were doing we were to actually stop moving dead in our tracks when we heard those words shouted at us until our Mom approached to pull us out of harm's way (a rattlesnake headed towards us in a field, for example).

It wasn't a game. We took those instructions seriously and as a result we all survived healthy and accident-free childhoods.

What I want to know is when the mother yelled at her son to "STOP!" why did he just keep running away?

In the past several years as I attend large gatherings I am constantly amazed at how many kids totally ignore the instructions of their parents and do whatever the hell they want.

Most parents I know (not all) have lost total control of their kids. I rarely see discipline of any kind these days.

A friend sent this to me the other night and it really hit home.

Hope you enjoy it. It sure as hell made sense to me!

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Mig

The parents are 100% to blame

Do you let your child walk into traffic?

he's right you know
parents should be sued for all expenses

Man, this could have been written by my Mom.

Back in the 60's she had 4 of us kids- 2 years apart.

Working full-time, making sure we had a hot meal and were bathed every evening before attending to our homework, keeping an immaculate household and all of us in clean, pressed clothes she SHOULD have been exhausted. Dad worked two, full-time jobs.

Yet we still frequently attended family outings (including places like zoos, parks, a family farm where we helped harvest the wheat, milked cows, and worked around dangerous situations).

You know what the difference was?

Before any activity we were explained how we were to behave and if we so much as violated one rule we headed home. NO EXCEPTIONS!

We also grew up knowing the words, "STOP!" What that meant was no matter what we were doing we were to actually stop moving dead in our tracks when we heard those words shouted at us until our Mom approached to pull us out of harm's way (a rattlesnake headed towards us in a field, for example).

It wasn't a game. We took those instructions seriously and as a result we all survived healthy and accident-free childhoods.

What I want to know is when the mother yelled at her son to "STOP!" why did he just keep running away?

In the past several years as I attend large gatherings I am constantly amazed at how many kids totally ignore the instructions of their parents and do whatever the hell they want.

Most parents I know (not all) have lost total control of their kids. I rarely see discipline of any kind these days.

A friend sent this to me the other night and it really hit home.

Hope you enjoy it. It sure as hell made sense to me!

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Mig