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SHOCKER: Just days after the Orlando shooting Obama appoints Muslim immigrant, who praised 911, to the Homeland Security Advisory Panel.

 
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Serkok, I had not seen that link, but thanks for calling my attention to it.
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Hi MW, I thought that some good posts can be found in that thread too, so I posted link :)

Also, thanks for your threads!

hf
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No, she said "Changed the world for good," meaning "Changed the world permanently." God, some of you people are so bigoted and ignorant, you can't comprehend written English.
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I'm not going to assume that she meant "permanently" in a language that I was born speaking and told constantly and repeatedly to "... always use the word that depicts your exact meaning or it may be misconstrued to mean something completely different".

We can whack the semantics of this back and forth until our arms fall off, but for the sake of "she was speaking in colloquial English" then there are two meanings to what she said.

1. Changed the world permanently.
2. Changed the world for the better. ("for the good of..." or "for the Good")

So, we are back at square one.

Not everyone speaks/understands in colloquial English, so it would have been better had she simply stated exactly what she meant, either "9/11 has changed the world permanently" or "9/11 has changed the world for the better." If she meant the latter, I'd love to hear how she believes the world is better now since 9/11.
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Serkok, I had not seen that link, but thanks for calling my attention to it.
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Hi MW, I thought that some good posts can be found in that thread too, so I posted link :)

Also, thanks for your threads!

hf
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Thank you, serkok. I have been admiring your threads.
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Hello GLP, Hello MW.

I am guessing by now you have all reviewed this story through multiple media sources. And I am also guessing you have read both sides of this argument.

I am stuck on one thing about this uproar. The woman who posted this tweet wrote, "9/11 changed the world for good..."

This is true, even in your eyes. 9/11 did change the world permanently. Since 9/11 the world has not been the same.

Now, I am guessing that some of you are seeing red now, and probably asking to bane me, but the truth of the matter is that the sentence she wrote does not speak to her opinion of the events of 9/11, instead it speaks to the permanence of the reaction. Since 9/11 the world has been changed, and it will never go back to the way it was in the past.

I see on other posts that many of you argue over the minutia of differences of words and their meanings. I just wanted to point this out.

Peace to all always.
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But she is going to be out of a job come election time, right? Or do those same advisors stay as part of some contractual agreement for a specific period of time regardless of who is President?
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Nope. Obama and entourage is out when new president takes over. If Trump takes over, most dems under Obama will also leave because now the repubs will be in power, unless Trump offers them a position.
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Hello GLP, Hello MW.

I am guessing by now you have all reviewed this story through multiple media sources. And I am also guessing you have read both sides of this argument.

I am stuck on one thing about this uproar. The woman who posted this tweet wrote, "9/11 changed the world for good..."

This is true, even in your eyes. 9/11 did change the world permanently. Since 9/11 the world has not been the same.

Now, I am guessing that some of you are seeing red now, and probably asking to bane me, but the truth of the matter is that the sentence she wrote does not speak to her opinion of the events of 9/11, instead it speaks to the permanence of the reaction. Since 9/11 the world has been changed, and it will never go back to the way it was in the past.

I see on other posts that many of you argue over the minutia of differences of words and their meanings. I just wanted to point this out.

Peace to all always.
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Hello, and thanks for your opinion.
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But she is going to be out of a job come election time, right? Or do those same advisors stay as part of some contractual agreement for a specific period of time regardless of who is President?
 Quoting: Éireann

I had not thought of that, but if Trump gets in, I bet he will get rid of her.
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If Trump gets in I think he is gonna clean house...
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Bet on it!
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[link to pamelageller.com]

Does it make you feel safer now knowing that Obama's pick for a Homeland Security Advisor is a Syrian immigrant who cheered 911, saying it changed the world for the good?

Honestly, this is the most shocking news I have ever read. Obama had to pick 15 Advisors to the Homeland Security Advisory Council, and he picks someone who hates Americans.

In my opinion this is the worst travesty he has done to Americans, and it is almost as if he is mocking us.


LINK: “Syrian Immigrant Who Said 9/11 ‘Changed The World For Good’ Is A Homeland Security Adviser,” By Peter Hasson, Daily Caller, June 16, 2016:

One of the sitting members on the Homeland Security Advisory Council’s (HSAC) Subcommittee on Countering Violent Extremism is a 25-year-old immigrant of Syrian heritage who said that the 9/11 attacks “changed the world for good” and has consistently disparaged America, free speech and white people on social media.Laila Alawa was one of just 15 people tapped to serve on the newly-formed HSAC Subcommittee on Countering Violent Extremism in 2015 — the same year she became an American citizen.

Just last week, the subcommittee submitted a report to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson, recommending that the DHS avoid using Muslim terminology like the words “sharia” and “jihad” when discussing terrorism.
- See more at: [link to pamelageller.com]
 Quoting: ^^MW^^

again i say there is something mentally wrong with someone who call himself "jeh"as for bammies pik par for course wanted one of the gitmo guys but his advisors said that MIGHT be alittle too much.
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She seems to care that we know about her bodily functions though...so...

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She seems to care that we know about her bodily functions though...so...

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Good grief!
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Hello GLP, Hello MW.

I am guessing by now you have all reviewed this story through multiple media sources. And I am also guessing you have read both sides of this argument.

I am stuck on one thing about this uproar. The woman who posted this tweet wrote, "9/11 changed the world for good..."

This is true, even in your eyes. 9/11 did change the world permanently. Since 9/11 the world has not been the same.

Now, I am guessing that some of you are seeing red now, and probably asking to bane me, but the truth of the matter is that the sentence she wrote does not speak to her opinion of the events of 9/11, instead it speaks to the permanence of the reaction. Since 9/11 the world has been changed, and it will never go back to the way it was in the past.

I see on other posts that many of you argue over the minutia of differences of words and their meanings. I just wanted to point this out.

Peace to all always.
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You're absolutely correct. 9/11 changed my world, and the perspective of the world for damn near everyone else, forever. There is no denying that. I will never again trust a muslim. My fear of them runs so deep it is absolutely crippling.

This is a shame, really, because I always thought Islam was just another Abrahamic religion like Christianity or Judaism and the followers of Islam were just like me; wanting to rid the world of poverty and war as well as uniting all of humanity, through love and works, with the one true God. Um... oops! Guess my parents didn't know what Islam was either :(

I was as wrong about Islam as I was about the EU being a copy of the United States of America. They are so far apart in terms of definition and function that I was basically trying to argue that apples and pizza are both fruit!

For me, personally, I think it is a mistake to have her on an anti-terrorism committee. Look what has already come out of that group? Now we can't use the terms "jihad" or "sharia" when referring to terrorism? wtf And she has stated that she is Syrian, will always be of Syria...etc and now the same President who appointed her to this committee is being pressured to bomb Syria? What could possibly go wrong?

The enemy of my enemy != my friend.

However, your post is indeed correct. The world will never be the same again after 9/11.

girlsad
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She seems to care that we know about her bodily functions though...so...

[link to thetempest.co]
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Good grief!
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ilaugh

I know. Not exactly the nicest topic for public discussion, but reading that article actually brought a smile to my face. Suddenly, she was just human and not something for me to fear. It's been a VERY long time since I've felt that.
Eireann~

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BUMP FOR PURE SHOCK
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The games never ends.

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[link to pamelageller.com]

Does it make you feel safer now knowing that Obama's pick for a Homeland Security Advisor is a Syrian immigrant who cheered 911, saying it changed the world for the good?

Honestly, this is the most shocking news I have ever read. Obama had to pick 15 Advisors to the Homeland Security Advisory Council, and he picks someone who hates Americans.

In my opinion this is the worst travesty he has done to Americans, and it is almost as if he is mocking us.


LINK: “Syrian Immigrant Who Said 9/11 ‘Changed The World For Good’ Is A Homeland Security Adviser,” By Peter Hasson, Daily Caller, June 16, 2016:

One of the sitting members on the Homeland Security Advisory Council’s (HSAC) Subcommittee on Countering Violent Extremism is a 25-year-old immigrant of Syrian heritage who said that the 9/11 attacks “changed the world for good” and has consistently disparaged America, free speech and white people on social media.Laila Alawa was one of just 15 people tapped to serve on the newly-formed HSAC Subcommittee on Countering Violent Extremism in 2015 — the same year she became an American citizen.

Just last week, the subcommittee submitted a report to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson, recommending that the DHS avoid using Muslim terminology like the words “sharia” and “jihad” when discussing terrorism.
- See more at: [link to pamelageller.com]
 Quoting: ^^MW^^


When viewed from the vantage point that Obama is the real leader of the moslem war against the world, everything makes perfect sense.

Every action he takes is in furtherance of the world wide sharia invasion. Even his ineffective pin prick attacks against ISIS are a "beard" for his hope to be recognized as the 12th Imam.

Like most violent moslems, he is willing to kill moslems who get in his way.

Obama has worked effortlessly to demoralize our military.

He provided the nearly defeated ISIS with 2,300 vehicles to spread mayhem.

The WH consults with the moslem Brotherhood on a regular basis.

Many muslims have been appointed to high positions in Homeland Security. National Security adviser Brennan is also suspected of being a secret Muslim who has gone to the Hage (sp?) as is expected of all male Muslims.

Obama typically loses weight during Ramadan fasting.

And finally, the ring on his wedding finger that he has worn since his school days, contains an Arabic praise of Allah.
Yes, I did cure my Stage 4 cancer in two weeks when I was 48. I also reversed my chronic kidney disease (glomerulonephritis) when I was 25. In neither case were any medical treatments involved.
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:pgr11:

:pgr12:

TWO OF HER TWEETS.
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Just WOW.....
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The sad thing is- this could be screamed from the rooftops...and a vast majority of the population would not care.
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Herd animals don't really know there's trouble until one panics
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Wow...exactly!!!!
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:pgr11:

:pgr12:

TWO OF HER TWEETS.
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Connecting the dots, she looks just a little bit suspect.

If 3,000 murders were good, would 6,000 be great?

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Orlando is still a HOAX until they PROVE that it happened.
Until then, it's just a story told by the storytellers.
Have they actually provided REAL evidence yet?
Weepy tales by "witnesses" and "victims" don't count.

I won't believe the stories.
Where is the evidence?
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Orlando is still a HOAX until they PROVE that it happened.
Until then, it's just a story told by the storytellers.
Have they actually provided REAL evidence yet?
Weepy tales by "witnesses" and "victims" don't count.

I won't believe the stories.
Where is the evidence?
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Thanks, Imam, for clearing this up for us.

Now shouldn't you be on a prayer rug somewhere instead of online?
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The sad thing is- this could be screamed from the rooftops...and a vast majority of the population would not care.
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God damn sheep fucker. Imma start spitting in the fucker food
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Sickening
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Orlando is still a HOAX until they PROVE that it happened.
Until then, it's just a story told by the storytellers.
Have they actually provided REAL evidence yet?
Weepy tales by "witnesses" and "victims" don't count.

I won't believe the stories.
Where is the evidence?
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Thanks, Imam, for clearing this up for us.

Now shouldn't you be on a prayer rug somewhere instead of online?
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clappa
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Orlando is still a HOAX until they PROVE that it happened.
Until then, it's just a story told by the storytellers.
Have they actually provided REAL evidence yet?
Weepy tales by "witnesses" and "victims" don't count.

I won't believe the stories.
Where is the evidence?
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Thanks, Imam, for clearing this up for us.

Now shouldn't you be on a prayer rug somewhere instead of online?
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Instead of saying crazy things, shouldn't you be posting the REAL evidence that Orlando was NOT a HOAX?

I won't believe the stories.
If you want to believe KNOWN liars, I'm OK with that.
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[link to pamelageller.com]

Does it make you feel safer now knowing that Obama's pick for a Homeland Security Advisor is a Syrian immigrant who cheered 911, saying it changed the world for the good?

Honestly, this is the most shocking news I have ever read. Obama had to pick 15 Advisors to the Homeland Security Advisory Council, and he picks someone who hates Americans.

In my opinion this is the worst travesty he has done to Americans, and it is almost as if he is mocking us.


LINK: “Syrian Immigrant Who Said 9/11 ‘Changed The World For Good’ Is A Homeland Security Adviser,” By Peter Hasson, Daily Caller, June 16, 2016:

One of the sitting members on the Homeland Security Advisory Council’s (HSAC) Subcommittee on Countering Violent Extremism is a 25-year-old immigrant of Syrian heritage who said that the 9/11 attacks “changed the world for good” and has consistently disparaged America, free speech and white people on social media.Laila Alawa was one of just 15 people tapped to serve on the newly-formed HSAC Subcommittee on Countering Violent Extremism in 2015 — the same year she became an American citizen.

Just last week, the subcommittee submitted a report to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson, recommending that the DHS avoid using Muslim terminology like the words “sharia” and “jihad” when discussing terrorism.
- See more at: [link to pamelageller.com]
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watch the old george carlin video from just before he died where he talks about how they don't give a f*** about you
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That was the Obama on Larry king debunking the Muslim accusations.

Watch his body language. He nods when Larry is saying that a percentage of Americans believe he is raised in a Muslim home. Then laughs cause he can't believe his own lie.

But he says right there that you just keep telling the Americans the "truth" ,and just hope eventually they believe it.

That's the formula for propaganda. Just keep repeating the lie as if it's true. Cognitive dissonance.
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That was the Obama on Larry king debunking the Muslim accusations.

Watch his body language. He nods when Larry is saying that a percentage of Americans believe he is raised in a Muslim home. Then laughs cause he can't believe his own lie.

But he says right there that you just keep telling the Americans the "truth" ,and just hope eventually they believe it.

That's the formula for propaganda. Just keep repeating the lie as if it's true. Cognitive dissonance.
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Very astute observation on your part.
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That was the Obama on Larry king debunking the Muslim accusations.

Watch his body language. He nods when Larry is saying that a percentage of Americans believe he is raised in a Muslim home. Then laughs cause he can't believe his own lie.

But he says right there that you just keep telling the Americans the "truth" ,and just hope eventually they believe it.

That's the formula for propaganda. Just keep repeating the lie as if it's true. Cognitive dissonance.
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Very astute observation on your part.
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At the time of the interview the propaganda act hadn't been discarded yet. So he violated the law in that interview by willfully lying to the public.

Here is Michelle forgetting the lie in africa, when telling the crowd that barracks home country is Kenya

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and Trump said nothing? Then he is a traitor too!
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send this info to all republican congressmen and see how they respond. we will know the traitors then. send to Trump too.





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