Rev. 3:16, No Christian Can Correctly Explain This.

Truth conquers all

when you take a good care for a splinters in the mind's eye

This is describing the Laodician Church age that we are in now. These people are for the most part unsaved and belong to tv evengelicals, the Vatican Church system etc. They are in apostasy and more and more of these are swearing allegiance to the Pope/Vatican.

This church will go into the Trib having not been saved.Alot of these will get saved during the Trib but will die for the gospel/name of Jesus. We see these as chap 6 as the one that are beaheaded.

We are currently overlapped between the Philadelphia church age and the Laodician age.

Also a alittle known fact is that the springs at Laodicia in Turkey back 2,000 years ago was very bitter and not fit for drinking.

The unsaved will not go up for the Pre-Tribulation rapture.
But will have to refuse the mark and be saved through becoming martyrs or survive the entire 7 years which will be nearly 0 chance.

Not sure what you're trying to say OP.

Are you saying christains today are biblically illiterate. Which is the explanation of the lukewarm Christianity?


It isn't hard. Luke warm christians are those who go to church every Sunday but don't really practice what they preach. Honestly how many Christians go to church wanting to be changed from the inside and live the rest of the week as other non christians do?

Hot Christians have the indwelling of the holy spirit in them, building up a relationship with Jesus Christ the perfecter of our faith and righteousness through him.

"The book of Revelation is one of the plainest books God ever caused to be written.” - Latter-day Prophet Joseph Smith

It's talking about the pagans who don't know they are not worshipping the true Lord. So the Lord will reject them because they are lukewarm and will test them by making them go through spiritual warfare. This is a prophecy what's to happen in the ends of times here on Earth.

The point is where else in scripture does Christ say he has his followers in his mouth. No where else does it say anything like that but maybe he means that church is the spit of His body?

Op must not be a Christian! Any fuckwit can explain it!

First of all you do understand that Book of Revelations is based upon the dreams and visions of John of Patmos and was written in about the year 90.

The synoptic Gospels are all at least 30 years younger than revelations and are recollections and/or collections of the thoughts, words, deeds and Actions of Jesus.

What is your point again?

Chapter iii

" And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write ; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars ; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

" Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die : for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

" Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

" Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments ; and they shall walk with me in white : for they are worthy.

" He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment ; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

" He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."

This is addressed to the first epoch of the Gihonic age, and is an embodiment of their history. As with the others, the true doctrine was preached among them, and a promise of great magnitude given to those who should overcome the wiles of Satan.

The text continues,

" And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write ; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth ; and shutteth, and no man openeth ;

" I know thy works : behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it : for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

" Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie ; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

" Because thou hast kept the word of my patienc?, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

'" Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

" Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out : and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God : and / will write upon him my new name.

" He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."

This is in relation to the second epoch of the Gihonic era. It seems as though, owing to the greatness of the promise given to this epoch, that the Adversary took advantage of it to deceive the people, to take away the daily sacrifice, to cast down the sanctuary, and to set up the abomination which maketh desolate. By his power he could place the abomination which maketh desolate as the one who had overcome, establishing his claims to the honor by his signs and lying wonders, thereby deceiving the hosts which were under bondage to him. As this was in the past, so will it be in the future when this same abomination shall sit in the temple of God as God, personating himself as the one which had overcome all things. Bu if any shall be deceived by him the second time, it will be because they heed not the truth : for the Son of man, the Saviour Jesus Christ, the only one which did overcome all things, shall assuredly come in the clouds of heaven, and by no other way will he come : the sign is positive and sure, and is given that none may be deceived by the power setting up the abomination which maketh desolate.

The text continues,

"And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God ;

"I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot : I would thou wert cold or hot.

" So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

" Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked :

" I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich ; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear ; and anoint thine eyes with eye-salve, that thou mayest see.

" As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten : be zealous therefore, and repent.

" Behold, I stand at the door, and knock : if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

" To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

" He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."

This is addressed to the first epoch of the Pisonic era, and embraces the period of time from our Adam unto Jesus Christ the Messiah. Our Saviour was the only one which overcame all things, and in him is the fulness of all the promises which were given by the Spirit to the churches ; and now he promises that all which shall overcome shall sit with him in his throne. It has been shown by all the above races that none of themselves could overcome : for their works, which the Lord knew, were failures, were dead works. By his works, therefore, man cannot succeed to the promises, and it has been shown conclusively by the Scriptures that only through the blood of Jesus Christ can man attain to them.

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The book of revelations is there to show that God can give cave meditating disciples some wild dreams. Whatever it meant, the book said such and such was soon to happen. Given that the world was created only a few thousand years before and that the world is flat, perhaps the book of revelations predictions already happened? In any case, it takes a lot of faith to believe in some things...

Jesus is the water of life. He can certainly spit someone out if he wants to.




Revelation 21:6

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.


Revelation 22:1

22 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.


John 7:37

37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.


John 4:10-14

10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.

11 The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?

12 Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?

13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:

14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

"I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." Rev. 3:15-16

this is simple to answer. for example, If the Lamb asks you a question that requires yes(hot), or no(cold), he does not want to hear maybe(lukewarm). the Lamb requires absoluteness, not maybe, not sure, luke warm analogy. The Lamb does not intend to spend the time in eternity, guessing if one wants hot milk or cold milk, the Lamb states that it is better for you to tell him exactly what you want and it is better to decide on something instead of being unsure. I think we can all relate, we all have had someone in front of us at one point of our lives, who cannot decide what to order. It is not only frustrating for the servant, but to the patrons behind as well. Things are more smoother and efficient when you have already chosen before you begin to order. Take the Lamb for example, the Lamb does not intend to spend eternity guessing what you might want. there are billions of other people in line who already know, the Lamb will instead send you to the back of the line (spue you out). Instead of the Lamb being technical like I have, the Lamb said it in a parable, short and loaded. The Lamb speaks of many parables like this in the Bible, this proves his favor of efficiency, for quality of words is better than quantity of words.

I don't think spewing you out means to send you to the back of the line.

I think it means he doesn't give you eternal life, the living waters.

you say we can not integrate any part of Revelations into the whole of Scripture. without using Daniel, Ezekiel or OT prophet, are we supposed to use a NT prophet? John the baptist is the closest that I can think of a NT prophet.

"His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire." Matthew 3:12

The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. Revelation 8:7

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. Revelation 19:20

then...

But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows.Luke 12:7


But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows. Matthew 10:30-31

And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; Revelation 5:11

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Revelation 13:18

then...

Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered. Luke 4:2

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Revelation 20:10

read your Bible, there are tons...



sort of like solving a math equation without using numbers. see above.


Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. John 2:19

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Revelation 21:1


side note..."and there was no more sea?"<---New mandela effect? I don't remember that being in there.
^^^

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Revelation 22:19



John of Patmos was in Prison when he wrote the Revelation Scroll. He hid many secrets into the scroll, so that the authorities would not confiscate the scroll. He made parts very symbolic, so that the one who could unlock it, would be able to reveal the secret many years later, safe from the oppressors.

And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. Then one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals." Revelation 5:4-5

OP you seem to be an amateur in the field of Biblical study.
Of course there are many more references, which you require. I suggest you read the Bible yourself instead of being an "Armchair" Skeptic.

He was explaining food safety standards...

"Serve hot foods hot and cold foods cold."

I can explain it very VERY succinctly, but you would never accept the truth of what I would say.

As with most passages in Revelation, the actual meaning is the opposite of what is traditionally accepted. Hot and cold is a bad thing. Luke warm is the temperature the metal is beaten into shape.

The point is that the Alpha Omega has a two edged sword coming from his mouth. If the sword is too hot it will melt. It it is too cold it will shatter. Therefore by being ambient, ie cool and calm about things you can adapt and shape yourself more readily to do more damage to the enemy than if you are emotional or emotionless, especially when it comes to giving the opposition a verbal dressing down with lots of double-entendres that will confuse them.

Think Borg and adapting to weapons... That's what he's talking about.

Jesus told me to not cast my pearls before swine, because they would trample them into the mud, then turn and try to rend me.

The truth is as follows: Everything that was made was made by Him, through Him, and for Him (that is scripture btw). He made us for His pleasure. He derives more pleasure from you making a decision, taking a stand, even if you are wrong. He can do more with a wrong decision than no decision. He can begin to work to show you the error of your ways, or thinking and bring you to the truth. If you are unwilling to decide, there is nothing He can do with you, for you, or through you. You are worthless to Him. Now, I know you probably don't understand a thing I just said, but there is great wisdom in it. He is good, and wants to display it to you, but if you just continue to say "Well......, I don't know......", then you are not very valuable or satisfying to Him. You are a WASTE!

When God wants to eat you, God is going to eat you.

That's why God sent Jesus.



18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

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As typically seen, you self appointed Bible pundits like to:

1.) Spout the Imperial Pronoun "We" as if you are qualified to represent some unidentified larger consensus for which you assume to speak.

2.) Also say "We" as if you have a superior view and grasp of an issue which those to whom you speak are obligated to include themselves.

3.) Condescendingly talk to those you assume are illinformed by creating what you think is a larger and more valid perspective by talking off topic.

4.) Avoid answering a direct question with a direct answer.

5.) Speak as if they have something useful, yet materially demonstrate nothing.

6.) Avoid all difficult issues and uncertainties within Scripture by having lots of canned answers.

For instance, no place in Scripture requires anyone to believe "we are on between the Lodocean and Philadelphia Churches." And, only a very small minority of those who claim to be Christian adhere to TV evangelists. And, so called Tribulation Theology is no older than a few hundred years. And, churches are never "saved," only individuals, giving more firm proof John the Revelator had a skewed understanding of Salvation by claiming to be quoting Jesus.

Let me further help you. "We" (lol) know it is not a damnable act to "lose one's first love of Christ" because at no other place in Scripture does Christ state Salvation comes from "loving" Him. Therefore. John fabricated his supposed quotations from Christ judging the Churches.

Try to remember that no person can filfill The First Command to "Love the Lord your God with all your ... (etc.)." That is why Jesus fulfilled that part of The Law for people so that they would not be held accountable for it.

Tell me, talkative and confident church spouter, do you personally "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, and strength?" Let us see if you have the balls to be honest. Remember also, no place in Scripture speaks of "trying our best" to obey God and Christ. One either does obey them, or does not.

I thank God for your foolish, canned, blurted nonsense. It makes my ministry so easy and effective.

incorrect translation, the translator probably needed some extra words to complete a full page.

the quote was probably "because you are tepid".

We are not in a "church age". John wrote to 7 literal churches that existed then, in what we call modern day Turkey. Who ever came up with this "Church age" crap, pulled it out of left field because it's nowhere to be found in the Bible. John sent the letters to the seven churches just as it is written. People need to stop adding to Gods Word, or be cursed with the plagues written in his book. John was describing the good and bad as Jesus commanded him to do. We can apply the things going on in those churches directly to ours today. The Pre-tribulation rapture is also non existent in the Bible, Christians have and will continue to go through tribulation, and even part of the great tribulation. However, we will not go through God's wrath, we will be raptured before, as stated in Revelation 6, Matthew 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13 over and over again. But some love to hold on to the man made doctrines of men to please their fleshly desires

I can only assume those that commented on my words and disagreed are either Catholics or worse.

Any reader of it and believes revelations is anything but the apocalyptic writing style of the times is an ass. It should never have been included in the NT as it's just a rewritten OT ripoff with Christ and current events added in. Any attempt to in any manner suggest it has anything to do with anything should be shunned.

you must speak like Jonah, the Word that is in your mouth, because you kissed the Son and the Son put his bread/manna into yours from his own mouth.

spit you out reminds me of Jonah.