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Who is the savior?

 
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Hi, all I know is you seem really fired up. love that.
I am all tired up right now so I just watch from the sidelines. your pic does give me a funny feeling for some reason. can't figure out why just yet (its not just the tight skirt) familiar area maybe.

anyway I return to the shard owes (ous lol) for a lit ell while. peas unto yewe.

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Damn so I get the top of the payge. talk about unsubtle blending in to the background. so whos gonna shave yer?
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More about The Matrix. In another thread (see, it led me to something else) I read about not casting pearls before swine. Well, the swine are everywhere (a piece in everyone, some more, some less). Some stories & beliefs will tell you to keep the secrets, for yourself, or limit the really good stuff.
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There are even suggestions in Thoth tablets, Isis ankhs, illuminati, etc. That's how it WAS done; it's time for the change. ALL the older stories need UPgraded. It's time for NEW stories that will become ancient texts in the future. Even the past had successions, variations & transformations.. Eve, Isis, Mary, or Hermes, Jesus, Buddha (don't nitpick the order & names, I'm moving fast.) Or like, you had the tablets, then you had the bible, then Google God. That was then, this is NOW.
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But NOW I see a finer difference, and/or a new meaning for Now. It also means like not putting The Truth into fiction form, like the Matrix. The audience would not be all spiritual seekers, there would be anti-woowoo (or "swine") as well. That's a hidden way to do it. In other words, it doesn't necessarily mean don't do it AT ALL, it more means to do it the better, truer, purer way. Straight out, like I said earlier. We need more direct now. The Truth is more worthy of its OWN movie, not sci-fi (lessened into a "swine" genre). Like preaching the bible in prisons, some come out finding God.

"Don't waste what is holy on people who are unholy. Don't throw your pearls to pigs! They will trample the pearls, then turn and attack you. Waste means, you are wasting all the work and effort that could be better spent on telling The Truth straight up. Casting pearls before swine (like forming truth into a sci-fi movie) is LESS effective, less focused, less defined to chosen readers/listeners. Things get lost in the message.
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Re "unholy people".. everyone also has a piece of "holy" in them. Like my bigger depression (ego) needed bigger spirit (an awakening), this time of the big "battle" of simultaneous rising of ego and spirit, you DO use the bigger pearls for the bigger "swine". Like attracts like & what better way to light a tiny spark, small due to "swineness", than to attract it out of them with a big ole Spirit magnet. Opposites attract too, so it works both ways. (Another story.)
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Yes, you'll get fewer listeners, BUT then there's the ripple effect. In hubby's business, he gets more customers by word of mouth than by expensive phone book ads. That's how I found Eckhart and he gave me much more than The Matrix did. The less secrets, the more we all know, knowledge.. the revealing. You can only be harmed by swine if you let them or fear them. They can't take it from you, stop you, harm you, ever.. not even with death. Didn't Jesus prove that? His Word still lives, even thru me, a non-Christian. The pearls are permanent. Stand your ground. That's what it's telling ME in MY story.

Again, we need to focus on finer details. Like today, we don't just have a Doc Baker and a Miss Beadle. There's specialists within specialists. Why? Because we're expanding, into more knowledge, in BOTH sides. The physical is a mimic of the spiritual. There's branches within branches. We need more Eckharts. We need the details, expanded. This is why I say "the return" is here in many, not just one. It's necessary for our stage, our level.

Let it be known, if you open the door and if you ask, be prepared to handle the overload. THIS blah, blah is an example. Again, not saying I'm "above" you or anything special. We're ALL special, in different ways, in different things. At the same time I'm rambling, hubby is watching the live Dallas officer shootings.. things are heating up, simultaneously, on both sides. Do you feel it? Both sides? Listen to Source within the self by quieting the 'noise' of the 'tv' side, even if just for a bit. A lot of you know this, but I'm not afraid to say it. and repeat it. and over-share.

Again, (for those offended by my choosing of freedom to be me) I don't know it ALL, it's just my favorite "hobby" (work), my favorite topic & my chosen study, self taught, in a way. Most learning is technically self taught because YOU choose the material, you choose what you read, etc. In schools, those choices are limited (teachers, books, subjects). The 'other side' is also missing from schools, out of balance. (Another story, yet to come.) I shy away from things that limit. Isn't that an antonym of freedom? How much more would morality rise if there were no secrets? Hmm. Intent would be exposed.

If people are limited to Source truth, then they are limited in their progression & choices. They hid it in the past because some use it for service to self, but NOW the spiritual level of access is 'stronger', as in they still wont "get it" (understand and/or get/receive) even in plain sight. Because, as I said, SHE knows the intent and her fire is here.. the meet up, the dragon battle, whatever you want to call it.

I didn't intend to add that last part at the start of "pearls before swine", but all topics lead me to the same, just like all things lead me to analogies & stories of The Truth, just like everything leads all of us to Home. It's more confirmation & affirmation. Yet another example. In other words, if it was 'wrong', it wouldn't have fit into my whole story. I too, am merely an "example", just a piece, like you, of THE Story. That's how it works in the rabbit hole.
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Re "stand your ground". UPdating that to "walk on water". Keep your truth fluid, flowing, forward... whole in basis and substance, yet fluid in open understanding. Stand still and BE or float and BEcome.

The pond, the river or the sea.

Stagnant it be, to stand like pond
where truth dormant, n'er to respond;
mud to sink and firmly hold
what you think, fashioned old.

Walk the river as it flows,
yet still narrow, hate still follows.
The banks you see appear like walls
to hide from you the ancient halls.

Now I say, thine self be true,
for truth to see, broaden to ocean blue.
Ride so high, Her fluid waves
be thou vast, where evil behaves.

The ground moves not, like stakened plot.
For yet like thought, forgotten not
be like babes, the mind self taught.
Age is time, but thou art young;
remember true, how it all begun.


"Then Peter got down out of the boat, walked on the water and came toward Jesus." To meet "Jesus", truth or Christ Consciousness, you have to be fluid like water allowing transformation, unlike safe, yet non-moving stability.

"Then Peter got down out of the boat, walked on the water and came toward Jesus. But when he saw the wind, he was afraid and, beginning to sink, cried out, 'Lord, save me!' Immediately Jesus reached out his hand and caught him. 'You of little faith,' he said, 'why did you doubt?'”

Jesus 'walked' on the waters of truth. Peter would sink, but only to FEAR. It's not "magic", it's metaphor. It's not "miracle", it's message.
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When the shit hits the fan, your church cannot save you. Your leaders will not care about you. Dog eat dog & every man for himself. Will you look for help outside where each is doing the same or will you go within? The good witch told Dorothy she held the power all along. There's no place like Home.

THEN, your within also becomes you with OUT, both to be saved and safe.

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are you budhist master ?
wanna play metaphor with me
only dalai lama can answer my riddle

what the difference between man and woman ?
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are you budhist master ?
wanna play metaphor with me
only dalai lama can answer my riddle

what the difference between man and woman ?
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boys have penis, girls have vagina
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are you budhist master ?
wanna play metaphor with me
only dalai lama can answer my riddle

what the difference between man and woman ?
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boys have penis, girls have vagina
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everybody know it
sorry you are not the avatar
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Of Sea and Sky

Go to the sea, the midst of She;
no borders to see, no limits so free.
Fear not the sharks, nor sinking down;
for he who harks, will never drown.

This be true as through and through,
this Her fire, winds that blew.
Fade no more, to veil that shades,
rise before, the heart She weighs.

Lighter than feather, it must be,
else or whether, deny eternity.
Things of weight, be of fallen,
truth of light, n'er forgotten.

Remember this, from whence you came,
Her egg that was, yet still is same.
Born to fall, yet destined to fly,
Hark Her all, float higher to sky.

For even the seas, and water you float,
silence at ease, where all is mote,
is still not yet, the final quote.
Lest you beget, the power your own,
love is the debt, to receive your throne.
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are you budhist master ?
wanna play metaphor with me
only dalai lama can answer my riddle

what the difference between man and woman ?
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The master is the self. Differences are thought.

Thought is truth and truth is self. Forget me not.
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The ONLY Saviour is Lord Jesus Christ.
"We are locked in a battle. This is not a friendly, gentleman's discussion. It is a life and death conflict between the spiritual hosts of wickedness and those who claim the name of Jesus Christ."

"The Saints are Sinners that keep on trying"
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There is no Savior not any more if ever there was , people have to be responsible for their own actions ... After all God works in mysterious ways ...
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Rodney: Well, I'm glad somebody's owned up, ....He who dares wins Rodders
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are you budhist master ?
wanna play metaphor with me
only dalai lama can answer my riddle

what the difference between man and woman ?
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The master is the self. Differences are thought.

Thought is truth and truth is self. Forget me not.
 Quoting: Pavana


sorry you are not the avatar

we cant recognize the truth if we cant recognize who really we are

truth mean the whole truth
the half truth is lie
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The ONLY Saviour is Lord Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Bambi2U

And who is the lord? "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one." Are you of God? Are you of One? Or are you separate? Are you away from God? Only is one, the One and only. You think there is two? Even the One, is also none.

The One is The Mind, the consciousness of thoughts. You, just an idea of many, are still one within The Thought. You either see One, or live in two, split apart from what is true. The Lord my God, inside of me, also true inside of you.
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are you budhist master ?
wanna play metaphor with me
only dalai lama can answer my riddle

what the difference between man and woman ?
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The master is the self. Differences are thought.

Thought is truth and truth is self. Forget me not.
 Quoting: Pavana


sorry you are not the avatar

we cant recognize the truth if we cant recognize who really we are

truth mean the whole truth
the half truth is lie
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I'm a Sim, you're a Sim, but who is the soul player? The Whole is The Truth. The Whole is The All. The Whole is masculine and feminine. Divine Mother and Holy Father who split from Her-maphrodite.
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Joh 8:21
Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.

Joh 8:24
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Joh 8:32
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
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are you budhist master ?
wanna play metaphor with me
only dalai lama can answer my riddle

what the difference between man and woman ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71193556

The master is the self. Differences are thought.

Thought is truth and truth is self. Forget me not.
 Quoting: Pavana


sorry you are not the avatar

we cant recognize the truth if we cant recognize who really we are

truth mean the whole truth
the half truth is lie
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71193556


I'm a Sim, you're a Sim, but who is the soul player? The Whole is The Truth. The Whole is The All. The Whole is masculine and feminine. Divine Mother and Holy Father who split from Her-maphrodite.
 Quoting: Pavana


you are too far from kingdom of GOD
sorry you arent the avatar
only Dalai Lama can answer my riddle
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Joh 8:21
Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.

Joh 8:24
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Joh 8:32
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
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He is he, I am he, you are he. WE are One. He is "I am". What are you? Are you not? Do you not exist? Do you not think? I think, therefore I am... too. And so are you.
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:-)


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Anger breeds stress.

Fight begets fight.

Logic calms persistence.

Patience finds understanding.
 Quoting: Pavana


What if someone's religion says they are to murder every single person on this planet ... is it still truth? And if it's not, why is it not?
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The master is the self. Differences are thought.

Thought is truth and truth is self. Forget me not.
 Quoting: Pavana

sorry you are not the avatar

we cant recognize the truth if we cant recognize who really we are

truth mean the whole truth
the half truth is lie
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71193556

I'm a Sim, you're a Sim, but who is the soul player? The Whole is The Truth. The Whole is The All. The Whole is masculine and feminine. Divine Mother and Holy Father who split from Her-maphrodite.
 Quoting: Pavana

you are too far from kingdom of GOD
sorry you arent the avatar
only Dalai Lama can answer my riddle
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You said it yourself, "MY riddle". Your question only affirms your answer in your story. You choose yourself as the decider and denier of everyone else's truth? I don't care to be your Dali Lama, nor your donkey rider. If you look for truth outside yourself, you won't see the self. But, someday you will. This is true in my story. I may be far from YOUR truth, but I write my own. To each his own; creator chapters, formed and forming thought, of The Story.

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You see it too! Those hidden lies of fear, you know where. wink

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Stupid question. There's no "correct" answer and you know it.
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When the shit hits the fan, your church cannot save you. Your leaders will not care about you. Dog eat dog & every man for himself. Will you look for help outside where each is doing the same or will you go within? The good witch told Dorothy she held the power all along. There's no place like Home.

THEN, your within also becomes you with OUT, both to be saved and safe.

sfan
 Quoting: Pavana


Your concept of the Christian church is skewed. The church is not a building and most of those who gather in those buildings have been led far from the truth.

Jesus is the Rock.

True followers of Jesus are on the Rock.

The Vatican is the seat of Satan.

The Vatican and all of the branches that sprouted from it have been tainted and deceived. They do not teach the whole truth. They celebrate Easter, Christmas and Sunday worship.

They haven't a clue.

You have bought into the deception.
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Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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What is greater than God, more evil than the devil, the poor have it, the rich need it, and if you eat it you'll die?
Government...
Govern: CONTROL
Ment: MIND
CONTROL MIND;MIND CONTROL

The terrorists attacks which will be launched in the United States will be blamed upon middle eastern religious fanatics, Christian fundamentalists, white supremacists, Patriots, or Militias. A more immediate result of these operations will be the increased use of military forces, weaponry, and equipment such as tanks and armored personnel carriers in civilian law enforcement, the suspension or elimination of Habeas Corpus, the elimination of jury trials, the attempted disarming of the American People, and the institution of martial law with show-trials conducted by a tribunal of judges. - William Cooper 1997 (RIP)

"If it's TRUE, it cannot be a THEORY!"
-- Kentroversy (02/23/07)

The light is always stronger than the darkness.

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. - John 3:19

Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. - Mark 13:29
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Anger breeds stress.

Fight begets fight.

Logic calms persistence.

Patience finds understanding.
 Quoting: Pavana


What if someone's religion says they are to murder every single person on this planet ... is it still truth? And if it's not, why is it not?
 Quoting: DGenesis1:29


Everything is true. If it is true for one, then it exists. Truth is existence. Truth is perspective. Truth is thought. Truth is individual worldview, multi dimensional, more than the number of fingerprints.

Ideas within thoughts, branches within branches, of yet one tree, One Word. A tree is also a seed, yet the holographic form of the tree is only a thought inside a formed shell. Yet before the tree, and before the seed of thought, was not, nada, no-thought of no-thing.

Truth is chosen. Truth is free. Religion is biased and limited. If someone limits their self to rules and words of only one other, then they are followers only. We are both leaders and followers, teachers and students.

Wrong and bad are perspective. (Another story.)
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there is no difference between man and woman when you overcome. you are equel. Balanced level.

hills have been made low, and valleys high, to become level within.

met in the middle-level scales.

Starting at the foundation of Truth.


4/9/16

I was driving up hills and down hills and getting really tired of it and I said that I am so sick of this!

Then Father said, I was getting a new house. I was calling this house..."Level"

Isaiah 40:4

Isaiah 42:16

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Stupid question. There's no "correct" answer and you know it.
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Stupid says as stupid sees. I know what I know, you know what you know.
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I'm a Sim, you're a Sim, but who is the soul player? The Whole is The Truth. The Whole is The All. The Whole is masculine and feminine. Divine Mother and Holy Father who split from Her-maphrodite.
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You need a Hole to hold the Whole.

Just sayin'...
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Anger breeds stress.

Fight begets fight.

Logic calms persistence.

Patience finds understanding.
 Quoting: Pavana


What if someone's religion says they are to murder every single person on this planet ... is it still truth? And if it's not, why is it not?
 Quoting: DGenesis1:29


Everything is true. If it is true for one, then it exists. Truth is existence. Truth is perspective. Truth is thought. Truth is individual worldview, multi dimensional, more than the number of fingerprints.

Ideas within thoughts, branches within branches, of yet one tree, One Word. A tree is also a seed, yet the holographic form of the tree is only a thought inside a formed shell. Yet before the tree, and before the seed of thought, was not, nada, no-thought of no-thing.

Truth is chosen. Truth is free. Religion is biased and limited. If someone limits their self to rules and words of only one other, then they are followers only. We are both leaders and followers, teachers and students.

Wrong and bad are perspective. (Another story.)
 Quoting: Pavana


If everything is true, than you are most assuredly wrong then, for then it is true to most people on here, that what you are saying is false. Because we believe it to be false, therefore you are false, and that is true. Because the Bible says the wages of sin is death, it is true that to continue down this path, you will suffer eternal death. This is true. And if everything is true, then this must be true. It must also be true that my interpretation of the Scriptures are correct. Therefore, because it is true, and it is true that you are wrong, it is true that if you do not repent, you will meet an eternal end.
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