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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72535890 France 07/12/2016 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 I bet if we cut down on giving other countries free shit such as military spending, we could afford Single Payer Health Care. I don't trust any Health Care System whatsoever that wants to make a profit off of me. You better study your history. America would not BE AMERICA if not for the free open market which creates competition! In order to make a "profit" they need to perform well. You don't understand basic economics. That is the problem. Before Oshitcare, my wife had UnitedHealth. ZERO deductible, $187/ month. We were happy. After Oshitcare, $5000 (yes, $5 THOUSAND DOLLAR) deductible, and $390 per month. I never said I liked Obamacare. Obamacare sucks because it's a major for-profit Healthcare System. Whenever profit is involved there is too much spending involved. Ask someone from the UK how their national healthcare system works when they want to make an appointment. It goes like this- Patient- "Hi I need to make an appointment with Dr Stein. I have pain in my ribs can I see him tomorrow? Receptionist- "No, How about in 6 months, say the 21st of December at 7am?" ONLY if you have private insurance which is very expensive can you see a PRIVATE doctor who BTW is usually a better doctor and has much nicer offices. Your litle rant about the NHS is absolute nonsense. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72416410 United States 07/12/2016 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's so much better than for profit health care imo. So why don't you like it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 I don't think you understand how this shit works. NOTHING is free. Can you name one Federal program that is fiscally sound? USPS? Social Security? Medicare? Medicade? THEY ARE ALL BROKE because BIG GOV does not work. It never has and never will. How can they provide healthcare for everyone when they can't keep the Social Security program going beyond the year 2035? I bet if we cut down on giving other countries free shit such as military spending, we could afford Single Payer Health Care. I don't trust any Health Care System whatsoever that wants to make a profit off of me. True dat, Plus what with letting hospitals charge such outrageous prices for stuff , a 1 dollar bag a saline they charge you / your insurance 100 dollars for sometimes higher? look at the price of cotton balls on your next bill its sickening. Nobodoy else could get away with it , everything from food to gas prices is regulated, why not this medical shit? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70583732 United States 07/12/2016 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's so much better than for profit health care imo. So why don't you like it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 Because the government is full of criminals looking for ways to rip us off. They tell us the money is for something good then use it for a contract to their cousins company to improve duck populations. Or study the dating trends of homosexuals. The money never goes where they say it will. That's why I don't trust them with the health of my family. |
Phennommennonn Forum Administrator 07/12/2016 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | single-payer national health insurance, also known as medicare for all, is a system in which a single public or quasi-public agency organizes health care financing, but the delivery of care remains largely in private hands. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Copperhead User ID: 72376096 United States 07/12/2016 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's so much better than for profit health care imo. So why don't you like it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 I don't think you understand how this shit works. NOTHING is free. Can you name one Federal program that is fiscally sound? USPS? Social Security? Medicare? Medicade? THEY ARE ALL BROKE because BIG GOV does not work. It never has and never will. How can they provide healthcare for everyone when they can't keep the Social Security program going beyond the year 2035? The USPS would be except for a crazy law that they have to fully fund the workers pensions for 100 years (I think) in advance. I can have UPS or FedEx at my door in the am to pick up packages for delivery and they get them delivered faster and most times cheaper than USPS. When I go to the post office it is staffed by affirmative action employees (seems they hire based on gender and skin color) and I have to wait in line forever to get my packages mailed. |
Copperhead User ID: 72376096 United States 07/12/2016 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's so much better than for profit health care imo. So why don't you like it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 I don't think you understand how this shit works. NOTHING is free. Can you name one Federal program that is fiscally sound? USPS? Social Security? Medicare? Medicade? THEY ARE ALL BROKE because BIG GOV does not work. It never has and never will. How can they provide healthcare for everyone when they can't keep the Social Security program going beyond the year 2035? I bet if we cut down on giving other countries free shit such as military spending, we could afford Single Payer Health Care. I don't trust any Health Care System whatsoever that wants to make a profit off of me. And yet the United States government is the biggest "For Profit" corporation in the world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72456070 United States 07/12/2016 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He said from the beginning that was the real end result. He just had to go through the ObamaCare debacle to make people finally want it. He knew he could not push it through right off the bat. Another of his games. [link to www.breitbart.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70278209 United States 07/12/2016 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's so much better than for profit health care imo. So why don't you like it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 Because the government is full of criminals looking for ways to rip us off. They tell us the money is for something good then use it for a contract to their cousins company to improve duck populations. Or study the dating trends of homosexuals. The money never goes where they say it will. That's why I don't trust them with the health of my family. There is no difference between the scoundrels in govt. and those outside govt.., and the two exchange places so often that the distinction between the public and private is virtually nonexistent. That said, modern for profit AMA controlled medicine is just a virtually unrestricted license to steal from the private sector by MD's, insurance companies and the rest of the medical establishment....the only way to reign in that theft, as has been done by most developed countries, is through some form of single payer system...so the options are, single payer or the continued bankrupting of the vast majority of the private sector....that's it... |
Copperhead User ID: 72376096 United States 07/12/2016 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He said from the beginning that was the real end result. He just had to go through the ObamaCare debacle to make people finally want it. He knew he could not push it through right off the bat. Quoting: NightWisp Another of his games. [link to www.breitbart.com] Problem Reaction Solution. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63422512 United States 07/12/2016 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63422512 You are either too young or too stupid to realize what is happening with this, so which is it? Neither. Apparently I've thought about it a lot more than you have, in depth. We don't give you enough information to think. Who is we? We is a horse's ass. We is the moran patrol, and we round up folks like you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72565488 United States 07/12/2016 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People who advocate for single payer have no idea how a true free market capitalist system is supposed to work and they think Govt works on the best behalf of the citizens. BTW, the current US health insurance and medical industrial complex is NOT a free market capitalistic one. The current system is a fascist fraud protectionist price scheming racket.... BECAUSE OF THE GOVT! ! ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70547102 United States 07/12/2016 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's so much better than for profit health care imo. So why don't you like it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 Because the government fucks up everything it touches I think people in private enterprise fuck up everything they touch. No different than gov. You got that backwards, chum. Everything the GOVERNMENT touches turns to shit. Long before govt got into all of our affairs, private enterprise/industry was great and our country ran like clockwork. Everything was affordable. Everyone had a job. That's what made America great and it lasted for many decades because of Pride in American workmanship. Things lasted for decades. Then govt let corporate America take over and material possessions became the target of planned obsolescence, meaning they didn't last. They were made of cheap materials and workmanship. The price of everything went up so that corporate America could make untold profits. The story goes on and on. Single payer medical insurance was great, though. Everyone could afford it and had good coverage. The day HMOs (government insurance plan) came into existence is the day medical coverage went down the toilet and it's been flushing ever since. So do some homework before you spout off on things you have no knowledge of. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5608739 United States 07/12/2016 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's so much better than for profit health care imo. So why don't you like it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 I don't think you understand how this shit works. NOTHING is free. Can you name one Federal program that is fiscally sound? USPS? Social Security? Medicare? Medicade? THEY ARE ALL BROKE because BIG GOV does not work. It never has and never will. How can they provide healthcare for everyone when they can't keep the Social Security program going beyond the year 2035? :9teen: The USPS would be except for a crazy law that they have to fully fund the workers pensions for 100 years (I think) in advance. Also the USPS cannot keep any profits. If one year they make money then they have to turn over the extra money to the general fund. If they have a year they loose money then everyone points fingers at them as being wasteful and not run properly. They cannot win in any situation. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70278209 United States 07/12/2016 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People who advocate for single payer have no idea how a true free market capitalist system is supposed to work and they think Govt works on the best behalf of the citizens. BTW, the current US health insurance and medical industrial complex is NOT a free market capitalistic one. The current system is a fascist fraud protectionist price scheming racket.... BECAUSE OF THE GOVT! ! ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72565488 Operative word is "supposed", as in the fantasy "free market" doesn't, never has, and never will exist, at least when applied to modern high tech medicine. The problem with fantasizing about ideal free market capitalism free from govt. interference, is that nothing but govt. interference can prevent the inevitable distorting of the free market by the same greed driven players that always without exception take over and eventually corrupt such markets...in one way or another the Govt. will be involved in markets, the only question is, on whose behalf will it be working? |
Jella User ID: 70720051 United States 07/12/2016 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People who advocate for single payer have no idea how a true free market capitalist system is supposed to work and they think Govt works on the best behalf of the citizens. BTW, the current US health insurance and medical industrial complex is NOT a free market capitalistic one. The current system is a fascist fraud protectionist price scheming racket.... BECAUSE OF THE GOVT! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72565488 You said it.... and let me add that the shadow people pillage/embezzle any tax payer fund they can get their hands on. Hey Hillary, where's the missing 6 billion? Jella |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35122013 United States 07/12/2016 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is just typical Obama. I'm at a loss for words! Quoting: Nicomachus ----------------------- Obama Opens the Back Door to a Single-Payer Nationalized Health Plan "Among the many bones the Obama administration had to throw to supporters of the health insurance industry in order to get their support for the Affordable Care Act, abandoning the idea of a “public option” on the health insurance exchanges -- a way for consumers to buy in to a Medicare-type program -- was among the biggest... But after the law passed, President Obama appeared to have made peace with the idea that his signature domestic policy accomplishment would not include a public option, it was never clear that he had abandoned the idea entirely. And in an article published Monday in the prestigious Journal of the American Medical Association, the president confirmed that he had not." [link to finance.yahoo.com (secure)] Hey ya shiteater! I would rather have the state pay for my healthcare, instead of giving the money to the MULTI TRILLION dollar Health Profit Organization-THAT is why Health care is so expensive TRILLIONS of your tax dollars to to the HMOs and a few million get oaid out to the Hospitals-The HMOs keep 75% of your tax dollars as pure PROFIT time for a firing squad for the idiots who support the current system |
Carnac The Magnificent User ID: 35889350 United States 07/12/2016 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's so much better than for profit health care imo. So why don't you like it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 I don't think you understand how this shit works. NOTHING is free. Can you name one Federal program that is fiscally sound? USPS? Social Security? Medicare? Medicade? THEY ARE ALL BROKE because BIG GOV does not work. It never has and never will. How can they provide healthcare for everyone when they can't keep the Social Security program going beyond the year 2035? We will not go to single payer. We will have national plans offered by private insurers. No private plans. No company plans. No Medicare. No medicaid. National plans that will be standard across all insurance companies. Companies can you pay part of or all of their employees premiums. The government will pay part of or all of the people premium for disabled, poor and retired citizens Have a nice day = GFY. GFY = Go Fuck Yourself. If this offends you then have a nice day. |
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stoidi User ID: 72469164 United States 07/12/2016 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Used to be poor man went to ER for everything. Never paid anything, never read the hospital bill, never intended to pay anything, because he had no income. The Governmenr might reimburse based on his inability, maybe not. The hospital sucked up the loss. Average Joe had insurance through work at reasonable rate, with copay or small deductible. Now with Obamacare, most have lousy coverage with high deductibles. Low income get support with coverage. Average guy is getting socked for his premiums, a lot of jobs won't or can't afford to cover workers insurance. More folks can only get part time jobs that don't have benefits like insurance, those who can are literally paying for those who are susidized, and they have huge deductibles for that coverage. The government has less to pay for the low earners, because the rates all went up, no one is getting a break. Insurance company profits, should be soaring. Funny thing is, the hospitals believed that things would get better, since everyone would have insurance. That didn't happen, because the poor man is still going to the ER to get his care for free, on the backs of the hospital resources. Only winner is private insurance. What we need are government sponsored hospitals to take care of the poor and those unable to pay. Then the private hospitals can care for those who have insurance. Sort of like in the past....you know before Obamacare...... One back turns in parting to turn and turn again. Leaving is never going, its circling round the bend. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 44861234 United States 07/12/2016 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | any and I say ANY of you that support this are totally brain dead...lacking common sense and short of any intellect whatsoever....ANYTHING obama does and I say ANYTHING he touches turns out evil....period.....if you like your doctor, you can KEEP your doctor....lying POS. And, the "m"asses fell for it...and your doing it AGAIN...and those of us with a brain have to suffer because there's more IDIOTS than sane people in this country anymore. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68900612 United States 07/12/2016 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 Neither. Apparently I've thought about it a lot more than you have, in depth. We don't give you enough information to think. Who is we? We is a horse's ass. We is the moran patrol, and we round up folks like you. Good luck with that Now FUCK OFF! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68900612 United States 07/12/2016 03:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is just typical Obama. I'm at a loss for words! Quoting: Nicomachus ----------------------- Obama Opens the Back Door to a Single-Payer Nationalized Health Plan "Among the many bones the Obama administration had to throw to supporters of the health insurance industry in order to get their support for the Affordable Care Act, abandoning the idea of a “public option” on the health insurance exchanges -- a way for consumers to buy in to a Medicare-type program -- was among the biggest... But after the law passed, President Obama appeared to have made peace with the idea that his signature domestic policy accomplishment would not include a public option, it was never clear that he had abandoned the idea entirely. And in an article published Monday in the prestigious Journal of the American Medical Association, the president confirmed that he had not." [link to finance.yahoo.com (secure)] Hey ya shiteater! I would rather have the state pay for my healthcare, instead of giving the money to the MULTI TRILLION dollar Health Profit Organization-THAT is why Health care is so expensive TRILLIONS of your tax dollars to to the HMOs and a few million get oaid out to the Hospitals-The HMOs keep 75% of your tax dollars as pure PROFIT time for a firing squad for the idiots who support the current system Thank you! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57643140 United States 07/12/2016 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's so much better than for profit health care imo. So why don't you like it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 I don't think you understand how this shit works. NOTHING is free. Can you name one Federal program that is fiscally sound? USPS? Social Security? Medicare? Medicade? THEY ARE ALL BROKE because BIG GOV does not work. It never has and never will. How can they provide healthcare for everyone when they can't keep the Social Security program going beyond the year 2035? I bet if we cut down on giving other countries free shit such as military spending, we could afford Single Payer Health Care. I don't trust any Health Care System whatsoever that wants to make a profit off of me. You better study your history. America would not BE AMERICA if not for the free open market which creates competition! In order to make a "profit" they need to perform well. You don't understand basic economics. That is the problem. Before Oshitcare, my wife had UnitedHealth. ZERO deductible, $187/ month. We were happy. After Oshitcare, $5000 (yes, $5 THOUSAND DOLLAR) deductible, and $390 per month. Yes most of working america is having to deal with this oshitnoncare nonsense that is NOT real health care insurance but a tax and a scam to drain the middle class further into the poor class this is all it is a scam by TPTB who want the NWO to drain the middle class they drain through many ways and health care monthly payments is one way you get shit for care for your 390 plus dollars but you cant even use the shit if you dont first have the 5000 dollars for the deductible this is shit shit and they know it it is NOT insurance they REPLACED the real insurance with evil shit |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57643140 United States 07/12/2016 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Used to be poor man went to ER for everything. Never paid anything, never read the hospital bill, never intended to pay anything, because he had no income. Quoting: stoidi The Governmenr might reimburse based on his inability, maybe not. The hospital sucked up the loss. Average Joe had insurance through work at reasonable rate, with copay or small deductible. Now with Obamacare, most have lousy coverage with high deductibles. Low income get support with coverage. Average guy is getting socked for his premiums, a lot of jobs won't or can't afford to cover workers insurance. More folks can only get part time jobs that don't have benefits like insurance, those who can are literally paying for those who are susidized, and they have huge deductibles for that coverage. The government has less to pay for the low earners, because the rates all went up, no one is getting a break. Insurance company profits, should be soaring. Funny thing is, the hospitals believed that things would get better, since everyone would have insurance. That didn't happen, because the poor man is still going to the ER to get his care for free, on the backs of the hospital resources. Only winner is private insurance. What we need are government sponsored hospitals to take care of the poor and those unable to pay. Then the private hospitals can care for those who have insurance. Sort of like in the past....you know before Obamacare...... The poor man and the mexican illegals and musslim illegals are getting free health care on the backs of the US workers they had better riot for health care to be free for US workers and outing the crim in dc who don't care about americans but their illegals |
Dances With Fire User ID: 52680061 United States 07/12/2016 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's so much better than for profit health care imo. So why don't you like it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68900612 Go become a doctor, then treat everybody for free! OR... Free speech is never free. Well I know it wasn't you who held me down Heaven knows it wasn't you who set me free So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains And we never even know we have the key - Eagles |