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Diplomatic Warrior User ID: 72862916 France 08/27/2016 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And was it the Arabs who taught dogs to bark? Hence 'Watch dog'. I think it was the Arabs. Prior to this, dogs rarely barked. Or so I read years ago. Who? ~ What? ~ Where? ~ When? ~ How? ~ Why? When I was really little, I tried to stand up and pee like my dad did. I remember the moment vividly, my dad laughing, my mother saying that I wanted to be just like him. It was funny the first time, but I didn't much like the pee running down my legs. I was a girl, now a grown woman. I grew up to be very much like my father, but I learnt to pee sitting down, or squatting.That's how it works. I'm female, and nothing will change that. |
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Diplomatic Warrior User ID: 72862916 France 08/27/2016 04:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BS...scientists themselves just announced they are not related to dogs...evolution is a lie..stop spreading it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70584321 Lol, I should hope scientists aren't related to dogs. Who? ~ What? ~ Where? ~ When? ~ How? ~ Why? When I was really little, I tried to stand up and pee like my dad did. I remember the moment vividly, my dad laughing, my mother saying that I wanted to be just like him. It was funny the first time, but I didn't much like the pee running down my legs. I was a girl, now a grown woman. I grew up to be very much like my father, but I learnt to pee sitting down, or squatting.That's how it works. I'm female, and nothing will change that. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 7807133 United Kingdom 08/27/2016 04:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BS...scientists themselves just announced they are not related to dogs...evolution is a lie..stop spreading it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70584321 Lol, I should hope scientists aren't related to dogs. If a person who studies knowledge is a scientist. We are all scientists and thus such a statement is far too easy to claim and should never carry any credibility in its own right. It's like the news saying "Some may say" prior to a statement, in order to make up conjecture. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 7807133 United Kingdom 08/27/2016 04:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i don't have a dog, but i'll look later at my camel. Quoting: aqmah* i wonder if its a breed between giraffe and horse. no, dogs are not a cross breed of two species. they are simply one species, the wolf over enough time with enough mutations and selective breeding to create a new species. that's one way to cause evolution. its proof that it happens and can cause drastic changes. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72104618 United States 08/27/2016 05:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is the same species, their is a wide range of variation to every species but it is still a dog, you will never find a dog turning into a bird or dolphin ect. Never. Even if by some miracle one mutated from dog to bird, it takes two to reproduce otherwise it will just die out. Sorry. |
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Diplomatic Warrior User ID: 72862916 France 08/27/2016 05:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope that's selective breeding, those genes where already in the wolf, humans just selected certain traits over generations. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72870097 What if you take humans out of the picture and slot in environmental factors that imitated certain genes to be dominant over several generations? Would this be considered, mutation, evolution, or perhaps both? Who? ~ What? ~ Where? ~ When? ~ How? ~ Why? When I was really little, I tried to stand up and pee like my dad did. I remember the moment vividly, my dad laughing, my mother saying that I wanted to be just like him. It was funny the first time, but I didn't much like the pee running down my legs. I was a girl, now a grown woman. I grew up to be very much like my father, but I learnt to pee sitting down, or squatting.That's how it works. I'm female, and nothing will change that. |
Magnum44 User ID: 49927210 Canada 08/27/2016 05:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's sad what dog breeders have done to certain breeds over the past 100 years. Some breeds have evolved from a useful, athletic body, to what is now nothing but a showpiece. Legs have evolved to be shorter, facial features magnified, and just an overall more unhealthy type of animal. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] [link to www.sciencealert.com] Last Edited by Magnum44 on 08/27/2016 05:54 AM Magnum44 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72870097 Taiwan 08/27/2016 05:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope that's selective breeding, those genes where already in the wolf, humans just selected certain traits over generations. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72870097 What if you take humans out of the picture and slot in environmental factors that imitated certain genes to be dominant over several generations? Would this be considered, mutation, evolution, or perhaps both? Both I guess, there is only so many dna combinations, 4 chemicals are what makeup dna. You have very many of the same genes a banana has, but look how much different you are to a banana. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71498719 Bulgaria 08/27/2016 05:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Birds can evolve significantly given environmental factors, within only a few generations. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65851463 Nope, certain environmental stresses activates certain genes already present but where dorman, not needed in their previous enviornment. This. All life forms come with an extensive set of dna information to adapt to different environment/niche That's why apparently we share a big part of dna with many animals and still appear so different. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72845588 United Kingdom 08/27/2016 06:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most people might not know this, but dogs didn't always exist. they are a product of humans selectively breeding wolves and their mutations in order to produce the variety we have today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7807133 That's evolution. Going from a wolf to a bulldog. Do you not see the enormous flaw in your argument??? You really don't see it?? What you are describing is called "intelligent design" !!! It's absolutely not "evolution" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40826964 United States 08/27/2016 06:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i don't have a dog, but i'll look later at my camel. Quoting: aqmah* i wonder if its a breed between giraffe and horse. no, dogs are not a cross breed of two species. they are simply one species, the wolf over enough time with enough mutations and selective breeding to create a new species. that's one way to cause evolution. its proof that it happens and can cause drastic changes. Bullshit... by and large mutations are ALMOST ALWAYS, negative. Why because DNA is basically information and a mutation is a corruption of that info or info lost. For example how many people have ever had a program on their computer go corrupt and that program actually became better? Not a damn person. There is absolutely no difference between a wolf and a dog, the only difference is that the wolf has a wider range of traits to be born with than a dog, since the dog has been bred over and over again to have specific traits. Yet if you were to take this dog and mate it with a wolf, it would have puppies that can grow up and mate with other dog/wolves and have more pups. Which shows they are of the same species. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 7807133 United Kingdom 08/27/2016 07:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i don't have a dog, but i'll look later at my camel. Quoting: aqmah* i wonder if its a breed between giraffe and horse. no, dogs are not a cross breed of two species. they are simply one species, the wolf over enough time with enough mutations and selective breeding to create a new species. that's one way to cause evolution. its proof that it happens and can cause drastic changes. Bullshit... by and large mutations are ALMOST ALWAYS, negative. Why because DNA is basically information and a mutation is a corruption of that info or info lost. For example how many people have ever had a program on their computer go corrupt and that program actually became better? Not a damn person. There is absolutely no difference between a wolf and a dog, the only difference is that the wolf has a wider range of traits to be born with than a dog, since the dog has been bred over and over again to have specific traits. Yet if you were to take this dog and mate it with a wolf, it would have puppies that can grow up and mate with other dog/wolves and have more pups. Which shows they are of the same species. stop talking crap, mutations occur all the time, they are not negative. you look different from siblings due to mutation. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 7807133 United Kingdom 08/27/2016 07:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most people might not know this, but dogs didn't always exist. they are a product of humans selectively breeding wolves and their mutations in order to produce the variety we have today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7807133 That's evolution. Going from a wolf to a bulldog. Do you not see the enormous flaw in your argument??? You really don't see it?? What you are describing is called "intelligent design" !!! It's absolutely not "evolution" intelligent design is evolution. anything that causes a species to change through time is evolution. whether that is man made or not. |
sacred energy User ID: 72870048 Australia 08/27/2016 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After wolves, just four groups sat at its base: Asia's shar-pei, along with shiba inu, akita and chow chow; central Africa's basenji; malamutes from the Arctic, along with Siberian huskies and samoyeds; and from the Middle East, Afghan hounds and salukis. Then, on one last branch, came every other dog breed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72820955 Australia 08/27/2016 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most people might not know this, but dogs didn't always exist. they are a product of humans selectively breeding wolves and their mutations in order to produce the variety we have today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7807133 That's evolution. Going from a wolf to a bulldog. "Exactly when dogs started to be domesticated and split from wolves is a matter of some controversy." :gaythread2: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72482515 United States 08/27/2016 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i don't have a dog, but i'll look later at my camel. Quoting: aqmah* i wonder if its a breed between giraffe and horse. no, dogs are not a cross breed of two species. they are simply one species, the wolf over enough time with enough mutations and selective breeding to create a new species. that's one way to cause evolution. its proof that it happens and can cause drastic changes. i don't have a dog, but i'll look later at my camel. Quoting: aqmah* i wonder if its a breed between giraffe and horse. no, dogs are not a cross breed of two species. they are simply one species, the wolf over enough time with enough mutations and selective breeding to create a new species. that's one way to cause evolution. its proof that it happens and can cause drastic changes. Dogs and wolves can interbreed, selective breeding is not evolution. If dogs breeds are allowed to interbreed they will eventually revert back to what is basically a wolf. It is called reverting to type, happens also in agriculture when crop varieties are planted from saved seed year after year, they revert back to the original type. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72789170 Belgium 08/27/2016 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most people might not know this, but dogs didn't always exist. they are a product of humans selectively breeding wolves and their mutations in order to produce the variety we have today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7807133 That's evolution. Going from a wolf to a bulldog. Please make a new thread when a superdog evolved due to selective intelligent (cross) breeding. The very fact we know this process ends up to be limited is quite an indication of pre-existing information. |
dogman17 User ID: 66425479 United States 08/27/2016 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is a fact that dogs have been selectively bred. That is not evolution. The fact is that there are millions of very different living organisms all the way from bacteria to homo sapiens. They evolved. We're not certain exactly how these changes came about, but they did. This is nature's evolution. Sometimes the more that is learned, the more perplexing it becomes. Nature's evolution may be over for us humans. However, cultural evolution and scientific intervention with our biologic workings will likely change us in profound ways to a greater extent than nature's evolution did in the last 150,000 years. Just don't make anything up. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69477564 United States 08/27/2016 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a foolish doctrine. You can see we are deceived about most things in this world and yet you cling to the story they spin about the very foundation of our existence? The big bang and evolution is simply foolishness. The heliocentric universe is a lie. Give this an hour if you have an inquiring mind. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |