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Calling LIGHTWORKERS! A Meeting Place !

 
xana

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Like this for example. Hoping to recieve an answer from those are supposedly lightworkers and realizing that I will have to seek it myself. Thanks for answering my question.
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One of the first steps on the path to knowing is the understanding that no one else can do it for you. It's been said a couple times already on this thread----

There are no shortcuts.

It's a good path. One must choose it; it does not choose you.

x

hi ahim-sa Yes, this good place.
We need a reason for speaking; we need none for keeping silent.
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It seems at these times there are many things coming forth to make me react, is it happening to anyone else? Why is it all happening so much and so fast? It's almost as if it's coming on full-force.

Tonight I went to see a movie my friends chose, "The Messenger" then after we went for dinner in the parking lot there was a van that said, "The Messengers Delivery Service". Things like this keep happening over and over again. I keep getting strange dreams, so many of them. People do things and I observe and try not to react, but they come from different angles.

When does it slow down? I sort of wish things were normal again.
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Your experiences are really cool! It will never be normal again, though, and time is speeding up! I would suggest reading the many channellings on the Nesara thread to get an idea of all the energies that we are absorbing and interacting with. [link to godlikeproductions.com]

It is going to keep getting more and more interesting!
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Hugs back to you xana! hf
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It seems at these times there are many things coming forth to make me react, is it happening to anyone else? Why is it all happening so much and so fast? It's almost as if it's coming on full-force.

Tonight I went to see a movie my friends chose, "The Messenger" then after we went for dinner in the parking lot there was a van that said, "The Messengers Delivery Service". Things like this keep happening over and over again. I keep getting strange dreams, so many of them. People do things and I observe and try not to react, but they come from different angles.

When does it slow down? I sort of wish things were normal again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 174504



Do not expect too much slow down, though the energy will come in waves, it is going to be hitting upon our shores for quite a while.

Be happen that you are so aware of the changes and signs of the time. It is your understanding of the reason for these things that will save you from feeling like you are going insane. Watch how crazy others will be getting around you. Perhaps, you can enlighten some who are ready.
"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein
Earth Daughter

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Some beautiful thoughts I have found on going beyond forgiveness. I thought it appropriate for this forum as it is one of the major blocks to our current speed of evolution.

Kuthumi says the vast majority of humans still wish humiliation and punishment on those whom they perceive as having harmed them - especially the governments.

This is currently creating a future plan of public exposure, humiliation, jail terms , and even death sentences for the many government officials.

Kuthumi says that most people wish this for thise officials so much that they are unwilling to accept a planetary aascension or even dipensation of Grace that could raise consciousness beyond the need for ongoing corruption on Earth, much less punishment.

Under the Karmic Laws, once a person has transcended the potential of repeating a negative karmic behavior, all is forgiven and no painful payback is required.

What we need to do is examine our own thoughts and attitudes. Even the subtlest holding on to the need for apologies from those who have wronged us in some way, before we are willing to let go of the past completely and forgive, must be released. And certainly attitudes toward even the grossest of corruption must now be brought into alignment with spiritual principles.

On the path to mastery, there is a point at which you must, in order to move forward, go BEYOND forgiveness.

You are being asked to transcend all blame and to pray for those who have harmed us. Pray that they learn and grow and transcend the potential for harming others in as much grace, ease, and love as possible.

To transcend the need for this payback, apology, or even admission by someone that he or she has made a mistake is now crucial for us as individuals and as a collective human race in order to align with the Devine Plan.

It is easy to righteously justify these old attitudes, but does it serve?

I personally, see the need for this in my life as I think it is a vital part of healing our old wounds.
"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein
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Thank you so much Earth Daughter and Amethyst. Sometimes I wonder if I am going insane. I show people these things sometimes and they think it's strange too.

It's just akward if it's not happening to the people around you. How do you really cope with it, you know? Thanks for this, I am grateful to you both.
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Earth Daughter~~ Thank you for this! I have been bouncing around with this for a while.
On the one hand, feeling that those who have committed serious crimes against humanity should be brought to justice, which is a legitimate concern--what do you do to end their reign and keep them from doing it again, or from living comfortably while others continue to suffer the aftermath. These are real life questions beyond the concept of forgiveness. Agreements of society. Consequences of actions.
And on the other hand, the idea I expressed somewhere that even at the last moment, in the twinkling of an eye, everyone can come to the Light, everyone will be forgiven for their role in this 3D warped world, and "karma" truly has no power.
Because, if I truly live by what I wrote in my posting above, that karma is an evil that is imposed upon us, then I need to follow thru with going beyond forgiveness, as you post.

It really requires breaking out of all conditioned religious and societal responses to tragedy. It also means minding your own business, as Divinity said, knowing that the Universe and the All Loving Source, knows how to handle these matters. It is really freeing. And when you are in that space, it is as Jesus says-to love your enemy. Not take crap, just not wishing retribution. It is embracing the Universe and the Love that is available beyond this material world.

As I said, I go in and out of this place, and it is wonderful for you to bring this up for me to examine and embrace again.

I'll go there with you dear!!
Goodnite til tomorrow!
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You are welcome AC! Stick around here and on the Nesara thread; you will find companionship and hopefully gain some insights!
xana

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It's just akward if it's not happening to the people around you. How do you really cope with it, you know?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 174504



heh heh ... some of us are really old... we've learned how to live inwardly with meaningfulness.... and for some of us/me! it has taken a goodly sum of years to get here.

hf
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Thank you Earth Daughter, thank you amethyst.


It took me a while to grasp the concept of forgiveness.

Just as I mastered it, OFFENCE disapeared.
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xana hf
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xana... hf
"Discover your divinity, find your unique talent, serve humanity with it and you can generate all the wealth you want."
-Depak Chopra-


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hf
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xana~ hf
Can I pull up a chair with you on your lake for a spell and flow along with you?
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Oh my! I am!
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Hey Ame, I've lost all my emails due to computer problems so please can you mail me again so that I have your addy to reply to yours?

Sorry and thanks!
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Hello Everyone!

Xana - I am digesting the latest from the Hathors - thank you very much!

In the 5th dimension there will be no religion, no wars and no
disease. But if you're still at the stage of thinking you know better
and you're still praying to that fictional God on high as you have
been brainwashed to do. How will you enter any further dimension when
your ears are still closed? You will not enter the 5th dimension, you
will be reborn on another planet where you can continue to play silly
games. Nobody up there on high will judge you, rather you judge
yourself by your choice and you go where you want to be!

 Quoting: Old Timer 193139


Boy, oh boy! That is a POWERFUL message, stated in no uncertain terms. I agree with it all. Thanks very much, Old Timer! hf
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
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Dil~~You've got mail! ;>
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TY Ame!
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Divinity  (OP)

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The love-based reality isn't apparent yet.

Will it manifest within this lifetime...????

I keep trying to hang in there.


Best Wishes,
Stan P.
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YES, STAN IT IS HAPPENING AS WE WRITE. We are making it happen, we are demanding it. I've noticed your posts before Stan..yours are usually very intelligent and you have good technical knowledge. Can you share some more?

Thanks..and hang in there, it won't be long!

Div hf
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
Divinity  (OP)

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Everybody's talking.

But it doesn't matter,

Since nobody's listening.



this is the truest statement in this entire thread.

is anyone listening? Are any of your minds open to learn? or is everyone so fixed on being 'right' that this thread is more about ranting their narrow 'truth' as loud and fast as possible?
 Quoting: hmmm 161353


AC, what are you on about?
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
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WHAT TO SAY

DUALITY HAS FRACTURED AND IS CRUMBLING. SOMETHING NEW AND VERY OLD IS COMING TO THE FORE.

THE KEY TO UNLOCKING PEOPLES MINDS, ALLOWING THEIR TRUE POWER TO BLOSSOM, IS TO SHATTER THE CHAINS OF CLAVERY.

BRIEFLY READING THAT SMITH WOMANS BIO, SPENT HER LAST YEARS FIGHTING FOR MONEY AND INHERITANCE. A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME WHEN EVERYBODY HAS WHAT THEY NEED.

GL
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Amethyst said:

"My own thoughts and understandings are that Karma is an imposed fixed system meant to keep us under control. It was NEVER real. It has been time looped so that one can never complete one's Karma. It is a rigged system meant to oppress Humanity, and keep us in suffering and self-blame and guilt. "oh I must have done something to deserve the life I have now..." Bullshit!"

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since you are already walking this path, you will be very interested in reading "journeys out of the body" and "far journeys" from Robert Monroe.


pages 162-178 of "far journeys" in particular. they are very eye opening. It describes the 'why' of the karmic cycle and the way emotional pain energy feeds the matrix and he who rules the matrix. eye opening.

I can tell you that Robert Monroe wrote truthfully and did not embellish.
 Quoting: hey amethyst 161353



Amethyst, I used to believe this - perhaps we could discuss it later when I have more time.

AC - 'Robert Monroe wrote truthfully and did not embellish' - so are you saying that he has the moritorium on truth on this subject? Are you so sure Monroe wasn't used for disinformation?

"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
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Is ace of hearts is high.
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AC~ I knew someone who let me borrow her CDs by him. I listened to one(w/o headphones) but I stopped because I didn't trust what was subliminally in the recordings. I am very reticent to turning myself over to anyone when I don't know what is going on. Too many vampires and Scanners out there; I know from experiences that I had to put myself back together from.

But whatever helps in your journey, ya know...I'm saving money to learn Spring Forest Quigong...
GREY LENSMAN

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THE ULTIMATE CONTROL

SUFFER NOW, REAP YOUR REWARDS IN THE AFTERLIFE.

OR

BE GOOD, DO AS YOU ARE TOLD, CONFORM, OR YOU WILL GO TO HELL AND SUFFER ETERNAL DAMNATION. WOW.

LOOK AT THE INDIAN CASTE SYSTEM, TALK ABOUT BEING "PUT IN YOUR PLACE"

ALL AROUND THE WORLD YOU SEE BELIEFS AS ACTIONS BASED PURELY ON AN INSTINCT TO SURVIVE DESPITE OPPRESSION. A WAY TO GET THROUGH THE DAY AND SEE A SILVER LINING.

THE PEOPLE FLED EUROPE, TO SEEK FREEDOM YET THEY IMPOSED SLOVERY UPON THE FREEST PEOPLE ON EARTH.

TWO STABLE AND "HIGHLY EVOLVED" SYSTEMS, THE CHINESE AND THE JAPANESE. THEY COULD NOT EVOLVE, THEY COULD NOT ADVANCE. THE CHINESE LOCKED INTO THE ORDER OF HEAVEN IMPOSED UPON THE EARTH.

NOW WE SEE A USA TORN APART BY ITS NEGATION OF ITS VERY FOUNDING PRICIPLES. ALL IN AN ATTEMPT TO REGAIN "CONTROL".

HERE IN GLP , WE HAVE A MICROCOSM, A PICTURE OF ALL THE PROBLEMS, A PICTURE OF ALL THE ANSWERS AND THE KEY IS HOW TO MAKE IT WORK. HOW TO BRING MEANING AND DIGNITY BACK INTO THE WORDS.

WE THE PEOPLE

GL
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Divinity  (OP)

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Posted by Earth Daughter:

>>On the path to mastery, there is a point at which you must, in order to move forward, go BEYOND forgiveness.

You are being asked to transcend all blame and to pray for those who have harmed us. Pray that they learn and grow and transcend the potential for harming others in as much grace, ease, and love as possible.

To transcend the need for this payback, apology, or even admission by someone that he or she has made a mistake is now crucial for us as individuals and as a collective human race in order to align with the Devine Plan.

It is easy to righteously justify these old attitudes, but does it serve
?>>


Amethyst, I've read much about karma and its 'evil control system', and the jury is still out on it for me. I started on my path in a furious state, wishing to murder God!!!! As I delved deeper, I found the control of humanity and all sentient beings too much to bear. They were even controlling us in the Astral!!!!

Anyway, years later, after meeting many enlightened beings and chatting with them, I decided there wasn't much I could about it in this lifetime except become more angry. So I changed my perception and started to take some responsibility instead of blaming 'the reptilians', 'the system', 'God', etc, and sending love to my past present and future selves, instead.

The time for forgiveness is NOW. ED's words shine through like beacons. hf

(That's not to say I wouldn't have a little word with the Guvnor if given the opportunity).

It seems/seemed unfair but much of what we create is due to our unconsciousness. This seems to be a game about consciousness...I don't think 'the system', 'God' or whatever has an opinion. It just IS.

Now, we have to look forward and be the change we wish to see.

Div hf
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
Divinity  (OP)

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Yes, GL, wise words as ever from you. hf
"Aether is a Quantum 2 Spin Rotating Magnetic Field that encapsulates Primary Angular Momentum and via Tensegrity forms Matter with resulting Quantum 1/2 spin.

"PHI is the direct result and first Ratio produced by this arrangement as it Cycles." Junglelord, www.thunderbolts.info
Here comes the Golden Age.

"Thought being a given is the first assertion of self-awareness; the remaining truth is simply "I am, therefore there is". Self and other, subject and object." Eyeam

"Remember me as I AM." My Brother
Amethyst
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Divinity~~I think you missed my reply to ED...page back please so that you do not misrepresent me. ED's post has nothing to do with karma as far as I can see, but is about living now with the highest integrity our hearts can reach. hf
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AN "EMPIRE" HALF AS OLD AS TIME IS SURFACING.

SEE GREEN EYES IN CHINA THREAD.

GL
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