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With tax season looming, more than 40 million low-income American families will not be getting their tax refunds as soon as expected.
In a bid to catch identity thieves and fraudsters, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is delaying refunds for anyone claiming the earned income tax credit (EITC) or the additional child tax credit (ACTC), which would disproportionately hurt working-class and poor families, many of whom claim both credits.


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Good is right. Neither of these are acceptable forms of wealth redistribution anyway. One gives money away for not having worked, the other further burdens those of us without children with the cost of other people kids.

Good.
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Good is right. Neither of these are acceptable forms of wealth redistribution anyway. One gives money away for not having worked, the other further burdens those of us without children with the cost of other people kids.

Good.
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Agreed. The IRS pays out BILLIONS erroneously each year for the Earned Income Credit alone. This isn't going to stop all, or even most of that, but it's a start.
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They threaten this every year about this time
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I personally knew and had to kick out a meth addict woman who was supplying her addiction with tax credit

She would often loudly boast that she was living the life every time she got a check from irs

Obviously using other's hard earned and paid tax to smoke meth while her mother took care of the bastard child

Never seen a person so trashy as her
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Really? And yet gov subsidies to corporations are ok?
How about stingray and kingfisher units paid for by gov ?
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Arent cops junkies for going after drug money?
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I personally knew and had to kick out a meth addict woman who was supplying her addiction with tax credit

She would often loudly boast that she was living the life every time she got a check from irs

Obviously using other's hard earned and paid tax to smoke meth while her mother took care of the bastard child

Never seen a person so trashy as her
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Was "bastard child" necessary? Lets leave the innocent kid out of your senseless bashing of fellow Americans.
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I personally knew and had to kick out a meth addict woman who was supplying her addiction with tax credit

She would often loudly boast that she was living the life every time she got a check from irs

Obviously using other's hard earned and paid tax to smoke meth while her mother took care of the bastard child

Never seen a person so trashy as her
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Was "bastard child" necessary? Lets leave the innocent kid out of your senseless bashing of fellow Americans.
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How about crotch droppings?
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I personally knew and had to kick out a meth addict woman who was supplying her addiction with tax credit

She would often loudly boast that she was living the life every time she got a check from irs

Obviously using other's hard earned and paid tax to smoke meth while her mother took care of the bastard child

Never seen a person so trashy as her
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Was "bastard child" necessary? Lets leave the innocent kid out of your senseless bashing of fellow Americans.
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Bastardy = born out of wedlock.

Please tell me you aren't that stupid.
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The fraud that is perpetrated on the IRS is extreme!

These measures should be taken, there are people out there that are filing in the names of others and then when the real person files they realize that malfeasance is at work.

The IRS could use updated systems to be sure but I do payroll for a large company and I talked to an IRS agent years ago who told me people were filing fake refunds.

There is massive fraud against the IRS and it's not by normal taxpayers...just like those asswipes that would grab the routing and account numbers off of paychecks and rob their former employer...no checks anymore...no shit...these lazy ass mother fuckers will rob you blind and they are trying to grab your tax refund too!!!

The IRS needs to update their system but it's in your own best interest that they're looking more closely at these false filings..
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The irs steals from people. So idrc, if people steal from it. If anything it goes back into the fiat keynesian economy.
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The fraud that is perpetrated on the IRS is extreme!

These measures should be taken, there are people out there that are filing in the names of others and then when the real person files they realize that malfeasance is at work.

The IRS could use updated systems to be sure but I do payroll for a large company and I talked to an IRS agent years ago who told me people were filing fake refunds.

There is massive fraud against the IRS and it's not by normal taxpayers...just like those asswipes that would grab the routing and account numbers off of paychecks and rob their former employer...no checks anymore...no shit...these lazy ass mother fuckers will rob you blind and they are trying to grab your tax refund too!!!

The IRS needs to update their system but it's in your own best interest that they're looking more closely at these false filings..
 Quoting: InTune4529


I've had some assholes file two years in a row with my personal info. Even had everything in my bank account confiscated once because of it. Finally got it worked out and now they send me an identity theft pin every year. Takes forever for me to get my return.
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This sucks for the hard-working Americans. I feel sad about that aspect of it.

But it will also disproportionately hurt the fucking Arabs that claim to be 25 different poor people. You know it is bad if the epidemic of Arab fraud is so bad that even the left-leaning bureaucrats at the IRS are fed up with it.
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The irs can rot in hell after what they did to the tparty,FUCK THE IRS!
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Re: IRS to delay tax refunds for millions of working-class & poor families
The fraud that is perpetrated on the IRS is extreme!

These measures should be taken, there are people out there that are filing in the names of others and then when the real person files they realize that malfeasance is at work.

The IRS could use updated systems to be sure but I do payroll for a large company and I talked to an IRS agent years ago who told me people were filing fake refunds.

There is massive fraud against the IRS and it's not by normal taxpayers...just like those asswipes that would grab the routing and account numbers off of paychecks and rob their former employer...no checks anymore...no shit...these lazy ass mother fuckers will rob you blind and they are trying to grab your tax refund too!!!

The IRS needs to update their system but it's in your own best interest that they're looking more closely at these false filings..
 Quoting: InTune4529


I've had some assholes file two years in a row with my personal info. Even had everything in my bank account confiscated once because of it. Finally got it worked out and now they send me an identity theft pin every year. Takes forever for me to get my return.
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That sucks and you're not alone. The lazy ass mother fuckers that actually don't want to work for a living are getting pretty smart in this paperless society....massive fraud is not a anomaly but the norm and the IRS is getting wise to it, that is the delay. There will be a solution to it but they are slow to respond. My mother was a contract specialist (bless her soul) for the IRS and she would tell me so many stories of ineptitude. The problem isn't with the people but the policies generally, though we all like to say the IRS workers are imbeciles...they're not really, well mostly....but regardless the problem is we have a ton of assholes trying to beat the system and the system hasn't caught up to catching them!!! But they're on to them and they're catching up and eventually the red tape will be so thick that even the best lazy mother fucker won't be able to grab an honest person's refund anymore!!!!

Cheers to tax season!


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IRS is another swamp that needs drained.
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I personally knew and had to kick out a meth addict woman who was supplying her addiction with tax credit

She would often loudly boast that she was living the life every time she got a check from irs

Obviously using other's hard earned and paid tax to smoke meth while her mother took care of the bastard child

Never seen a person so trashy as her
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Was "bastard child" necessary? Lets leave the innocent kid out of your senseless bashing of fellow Americans.
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If the child is a bastard then it is a bastard. So tired of all these people being so sensitive , I know it is not the kids fault but that does not suddenly make it a legitimate child.
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Re: IRS to delay tax refunds for millions of working-class & poor families
The article says this:
"the IRS estimates...... $3.1 billion in fraudulent returns in 2014, and $5.8 billion the year prior. In that two-year period, the IRS estimates that they prevented nearly $47 billion in fraudulent returns."

But here's my issue.....
WHY PUNISH ALL THE FAMILIES WHO DID THINGS RIGHT?

It would make more sense to simply AUDIT the ones they suspect were committing fraud.
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Fine with me, we'll probably have to pay.
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<snip>

With tax season looming, more than 40 million low-income American families will not be getting their tax refunds as soon as expected.
In a bid to catch identity thieves and fraudsters, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is delaying refunds for anyone claiming the earned income tax credit (EITC) or the additional child tax credit (ACTC), which would disproportionately hurt working-class and poor families, many of whom claim both credits.


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Mexicans have been claiming dependants in mexico for years and getting our tax money...So hard working american families have been losing for years. O invited every non citizen to illegally partake in our system and they did!
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IRS is another swamp that needs drained.
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because obama supporters are scammers
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With tax season looming, more than 40 million low-income American families will not be getting their tax refunds as soon as expected.
In a bid to catch identity thieves and fraudsters, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is delaying refunds for anyone claiming the earned income tax credit (EITC) or the additional child tax credit (ACTC), which would disproportionately hurt working-class and poor families, many of whom claim both credits.


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I guarentee to u all the 1000's of illegals and mexican guys with 3 aliases will get there huge checks promptly like every year.
I see checks anywhere from 1500 upwards of 15 grand these people get .. And thus i 1 small area in minnesota.

But I bust my as 10 to 12 hours everyday and like every year they will keep my 5 or 6 hundred bucks i overpayed because of the debt reclamatuon act where they take ur to pay med bills, unwmployment. Ect.. State taxes are tge same way.
Frre ride if ur illegal though. Free health care, free dental, 6 hundred bucks free food every month, pennies on the dollar hiusing, zero to liw interest suoer long term lians, free education... Whike the true american citizen gets F'd Up The preverbial AZz, every Single Day.
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Only my idiots file and pay income taxes. Fuck this country.
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Re: IRS to delay tax refunds for millions of working-class & poor families
The fraud that is perpetrated on the IRS is extreme!

These measures should be taken, there are people out there that are filing in the names of others and then when the real person files they realize that malfeasance is at work.

The IRS could use updated systems to be sure but I do payroll for a large company and I talked to an IRS agent years ago who told me people were filing fake refunds.

There is massive fraud against the IRS and it's not by normal taxpayers...just like those asswipes that would grab the routing and account numbers off of paychecks and rob their former employer...no checks anymore...no shit...these lazy ass mother fuckers will rob you blind and they are trying to grab your tax refund too!!!

The IRS needs to update their system but it's in your own best interest that they're looking more closely at these false filings..
 Quoting: InTune4529


I've had some assholes file two years in a row with my personal info. Even had everything in my bank account confiscated once because of it. Finally got it worked out and now they send me an identity theft pin every year. Takes forever for me to get my return.
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The IRS is not a savings plan.

If you're waiting on a big refund check you are withholding too much. (This is assuming you are a regular working stiff and not one of the aforementioned teat suckers.)
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Yup. If you claim the earned income tax credit or additional child tax credit - those refunds will not be released until Feb. 15th and beyond. I've seen people my age freaking out about it. I can't help but wonder - why on earth would you rely on a tax refund to get by?
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The fraud that is perpetrated on the IRS is extreme!

These measures should be taken, there are people out there that are filing in the names of others and then when the real person files they realize that malfeasance is at work.

The IRS could use updated systems to be sure but I do payroll for a large company and I talked to an IRS agent years ago who told me people were filing fake refunds.

There is massive fraud against the IRS and it's not by normal taxpayers...just like those asswipes that would grab the routing and account numbers off of paychecks and rob their former employer...no checks anymore...no shit...these lazy ass mother fuckers will rob you blind and they are trying to grab your tax refund too!!!

The IRS needs to update their system but it's in your own best interest that they're looking more closely at these false filings..
 Quoting: InTune4529


Couple years ago in Austin the local news reported that there was about 70 million dollars of refunds going to one address in Austin and the address wasn't part of a rich area of Austin either.

Basically it's illegals that are able to do and get away with this scheme. They go to their consulate and get multiple alias's for them and their children. Then they file income taxes and government welfare for each entity and collect the checks for them.

A real easy way for the IRS to catch this shit is to have multiple returns going to one address be flagged and investigated.
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Good is right. Neither of these are acceptable forms of wealth redistribution anyway. One gives money away for not having worked, the other further burdens those of us without children with the cost of other people kids.

Good.
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Agreed. The IRS pays out BILLIONS erroneously each year for the Earned Income Credit alone. This isn't going to stop all, or even most of that, but it's a start.
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Yeah but this year those attempting to utilize the child credit must jump through hoops to earn it.
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