I am DB Cooper's son. His story is coming....

Swede is actually the Feds. They keep prying more info out of OP. Soon they will have him, if they haven't already. OP gave up to much private info...

If you think Op gave away private information that can put him in jail you are mistaken. This is a conspiracy website where you can't believe what people say on here. Op is just telling stories about his dad who found DB Coopers money and allegedly told a story to his son how he was the hijacker. Do you know how many people back then said they were DB Cooper and told how they hijacked 727? Too many!

Yea that's what I thought. But I do believe this website gets attacks by trolls too much

Cooper used a uncomfy military parachute when he decided to jumped out of 727. Military parachutes are able to work in any weather type situation scenario and are very durable working good in bad conditions. FBI was surprised he didn't take any of the sports parachutes because they were comfy and you can control where you land with them. So the FBI thought Cooper had military experience in parachutes because he took the military parachute which are difficult to used.

What happened to the chute?

DB is dead and I have commited no crime. Bring it on feds, help me sell more books. Saint Jude Hospital will benefit from these book sales.

Stuffed under some rocks in a ravine.

Surprised he didn't use the chute as a rough attempt at a brace. You said he broke a few ribs and likely could have sprained his ankle or at least had whiplash. His suit jacket would have covered up the chute bandages to some degree while he walked to find a public pay phone.

There aren't street lights in small towns so few people are walking at night in late Nov when it's cold, windy, and raining. Little chance he'd be spotted wearing dark colors and looking non-descript as if he had some place to go.

Anyway did your dad follow any of the tales over the years of how the FBI supposedly found DB Cooper and all the evidence proving their case this particular time? Was he aware of the DB Cooper newsletters with updates of info? The many happy hour celebrations and parties on the anniversary of his jump by semi-outlaws (pot farmers) and old hippies living in the general area San Fran? I believe these include Northern CA central valley, OR, and parts of WA which are known to be extremely Libertarian or Far Left and against "The Man." They are the areas where "High Times" and similar magazines used to be very popular. (No I'm never smoked anything. I just follow pop culture very closely.) If so what was his reaction to all of it?

Your story is awesome i cant wait tiill the book comes out.

Great job on answering the questions.

Seems retty legit to me.

Look forward to more.

when your father passed away. Did he get buried. May god rest his soul.

Buried in a cemetery in TN.

Private Dick, waiting on more from you as well. Would be cool if you could somehow verify that OP is Coop Jr. Would probably put your mind at ease to solve it im sure as it seems like something that occupied a lot of your mind and time. I somehow missed the D.B. Cooper story growing up, but you two have made me interested! Would be really cool if this turned out to be true, though I remain skeptical given the legendary and unsolved status this story has. More please!

Also can we get some pine up in here?

Thanks for all the info, sure got tired of that other guy de railing your thread. I for one believe you and will be very interested in reading the book. One question, did your mother know ahead of time what your father was doing? And did it bother her when he was over seas?

Thanks for all the info, sure got tired of that other guy de railing your thread. I for one believe you and will be very interested in reading the book. One question, did your mother know ahead of time what your father was doing? And did it bother her when he was over seas?
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He was different after Vietnam and they started having problems. Many veterans had relationship problems caused by(PTSD). She knew nothing of his exploits.

OK ty, Im sure she wondered where he was for 4 yrs etc then

To: DB Coopers Son

You said he had 3 kids? Do your siblings know you are writing the book and what is their opinion on this?

Approximately how old are you (don't have to give exact). Did you say your dad talked with you and others about his experience as DB Cooper? At what age did he discuss this with ya'll.

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100% true.



I could have reset my IP, but it was clear to me when the mods didn't approve my appeal that they would keep banning me until I pay up. So I did. Plus, I want to follow the rules, at least until I'm done in this thread.

Since the day I posted in this thread, I haven't slept past 3:30am. Yesterday I had such a bad headache that my doctor ordered an MRI. It has to be this Cooper shit that occupies my mind non stop when the wheels are turning.

In Geoffrey Gray's book, Skyjack, he describes the Cooper Curse. I was skeptical of his book, but it's mostly done well. Of course, I knew he wouldn't hit very much of the truth because he never contacted me for an interview. Jo told me whenever he called or visited while he was in the middle of writing the book and I was skeptical of what it would turn into. He did a good job with the book, I recommend it.

At least for me, this thing really is a curse. I live with a burden. I believe I'm the only one in the world capable of moving the mystery forward, and yet, it's convoluted and difficult. I wanted to put this thing to rest 5 years ago, but didn't want to do it without all the proper documentation - stuff I've seen with my own eyes and know for fact that exists, but... well, FML. Our greatest gift is that DB Cooper's last wife is alive and eager to solve this mystery. Our greatest curse is the same.

This upgraded account will allow me to do something special I have planned for you.

Stay with me.

Anonymous speech is the only form of free speech. I selected the user name The DarkShadow a long while ago because in psychology the shadow is the dark part of ourselves, the part we ignore, the part we wish didn't exist. I like to post anonymously. Ironically, I'm killing the concept of being anonymous by posting ITT.

While I'm proud of myself for figuring out so many things in the DB Cooper mystery, it's a curse at the same time. I live with a burden.

If I don't tell what I know, then the world will never know it. Jo Weber will try, but she's damaged her reputation beyond repair for merely trying as hard as she possibly can. Even if she hadn't, the truth is that she cannot tell it from my perspective, because everything I figured out, she should have figured out herself 21 years ago, but didn't. It took a weird mix of obsession and intellect. A blessing and a cursing.

OP can probably relate. That is, if he truly believes what he's saying.

IT'S A CURSE.

And now I resume my efforts to lift this burden....



I'm highlighting this post because I hastily responded earlier. In a few days I'm going to ask you to engage in a thought experiment that will require you to think like White Hat. Once you know things, it's hard to unknow them. It's a cognitive bias referred to as the Curse of Knowledge. My greatest eureka moment happened when I was able to shed what I know about this and begin to think like White Hat.

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I want to share some sage advice I got from a book entitled “Thanks for the Feedback”. The author's emphasis is that you should pay attention to people's observations instead of their conclusions. It's not that conclusions are wrong, but rather they can be a source of contention because there are more than one way to view the world. I've found this to be helpful in life, including DB Cooper stuff.

Here's an example of paying attention to observations instead of conclusions. Tom Kaye's recent news articles discuss his findings on the tie left behind on the hijacked jet. He then extrapolates his evidence and says Cooper is probably a manager at Boeing. Be careful about the interpretation, but treat the observation like gold.

The Collins Theory p3

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The key in the wallet turned out to belong to a safety deposit box at a bank the couple didn't belong to. They had a joint box, and this second one was kept secret from his wife. Once she obtained the paperwork on his death, she ventured down to the bank to find out the story behind this secret safety deposit box.

He did not have her listed as an authorized user of the box, but with her paperwork, including clear evidence that they were married, his possessions become her possessions according to law when he dies. The clerk told her that should not be allowed back, but that she could take the key herself and empty the box contents. Jo waited.

When the clerk returned, all she had in her hand was a magazine. The magazine in question was a Soldier of Fortune dated December 1994 and featured a man dressed similar to the GI Joe character Storm Shadow holding a matching white RPG.

She closed out the safety deposit box and got the paperwork on it, which she kept.

The box is not only interesting, but will have some importance later on, as I make a retrodiction about it that gets verified. While not proof in of itself, the particular retrodiction I made regarding this secret safety deposit box was taken directly from what is known about DB Cooper evidence. Again, not proof in of itself, but this will play a role later on.

After about a year, she began dating again. She hashep supporterk to help her with the process (the particular book can still be bought on Amazon). One of things it said was if she wasn't interested in the person, she should start talking about her former husband. That's what she did. At some point in this conversation, he asked her if she ever considered that he might have been DB Cooper.

She went to the library and checked out a book on DB Cooper. It was Max Gunther's fairy tale version. When she began reading, it described the crime and how Cooper made his way down the aft stairs and jumped. This term “aft stairs” triggered a memory, and she immediately looked up the phone number for the local FBI office and called.

She recalled that shortly after they got married, he woke her up one night talking in his sleep. At first she thought he was talking to her, but immediately she could tell he was having a dream. As his arm elevated up, reaching towards the ceiling, his dream concluded dramatically. “I left my fingerprints on the aft stairs... I'm going to die!... Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!” at which point he startled himself awake, dripping in sweat. Though it was the middle of the night, he got up, went to the bathroom, and then poured himself an alcoholic beverage, his hands still trembling from the nightmare.

The next morning, she asked him about the term “aft stairs”. His response was that these were stairs in prison. It was the first time she had any idea of his seedy past.

After the phone call to the FBI, they sent her a photo of the famous Roy Rose Cooper composite sketch. Her daughter was with her when she got it in the mail. She opened the envelope right at the mailbox and collapsed on the grass when she saw it. “Oh my God, it's him!”

Fast forward a few years. She's had a few articles written, including Doug Pasternak's US News & World Report, and at least one television production that has featured elements of her story. I want to make this clear now in case you're wondering, she didn't get paid for any of that nor did she ask for compensation.

I never heard any of this story and didn't really care to until one day when I was browsing through a card counting web forum. Back then, popular subjects among counters was how casinos were battling advantage players. So we're clear, it's totally legal to gain a legitimate advantage in a casino, but it's also totally legal for a casino to refuse service to anyone. Someone made a post about the new Facial Recognition Software (FRS) that was a popular topic and mentioned a recent episode of Unsolved History about a deathbed DB Cooper confession where they ran the composite sketch through the database. In comparing the man who made this deathbed confession to all the people in the database, including a few other popular Cooper suspects, Duane Weber came up as the top match, according to the FRS.

This is the point where I jumped into the mix. I read the articles, and I still had some lingering questions. That's why I reached out to Jo Weber. In hindsight, I should have been a lot more skeptical than I was, but there were two elements that seemed compelling to me. One was the database results. The other was this “sentimental journey” as it was described in Pasternak's article.

The gist of this “sentimental journey” was that Jo and Duane took a trip to Portland and Seattle at some time in 1979. At one point during this journey, he stopped near the river, told her to remain in the car, and then went down to the river by himself for some time. A part of the Cooper ransom, of course, was discovered in early 1980 on the Columbia River.

While these were the highlights, I had far too many questions, and so I asked.

What I should do next is give you her narrative at the time which is to say what she believed about her husband and the crime. I will warn you upfront that her narrative is her interpretation. At the time, I hadn't yet learned to be as skeptical about conclusions while focusing on observation, but it would be a lesson she'd teach me well.

I had a lot of the same questions you have now. How did he get away with it? What happened to the money? What was he like? How did he escape? I've made peace with these curiosities, but I'm not so sure these questions can be answered fully. I did try though. Over the course of days and weeks, she gave me her versions of the answers.

Of particular interest was what happened to the money. She told me that Duane took some of the money, perhaps stuffed in his pockets, and then buried the remaining money in a five gallon paint bucket and hid it somewhere. When he returned to find it (in 1979), he couldn't. It had likely been dislodged in a flood and was washed away. She felt as though his hiding spot for the money was the location he went to on the river when she remained in the car. The Cooper ransom money found in 1980 was simply some of the money that had been washed away in a flood.

She told me that he at one point in the car while driving the back roads of SW Washington made a remark, “that's where Cooper came out of the woods.” She responded, “How would you know?” His retort, “Maybe I was the one on the ground.”

I worked with her to try and ascertain where this conversation took place and to pin down other details she believed. She felt as though the location was at LaCamas Lake. There was a brief time when I was in Vancouver and she sent me on an errand to look for an article about a stolen boat near the time of the Cooper hijacking. I never found anything. She felt as if he stole a boat docked on the river to use as a way to get back into Portland. Her reasoning was that he made a comment while driving along the river that down below where they couldn't see, there was a boat dock.

In Jo's mind, the significance of the sentimental journey was how familiar he was with Southwest Washington and the Seattle metro area. He talked about people and places he knew. Coupled with his future death bed confession, she believed this trip was strong evidence that he was Cooper; or at least he fit the profile of what you'd expect of Cooper.

While I don't disagree entirely, the significance of this trip to me was the timing. I just found it so coincidental that someone who later confesses to the crime was on the river in 1979 prior to the ransom being found.

The reason I'm sharing this early part of the story is because there's truth here and there's bullshit. I need some starting points. The problem with background information is that it can be boring.

At the time, with nothing to go on, I chose to accept her story as an excellent version of events.

The problem was, it never really sat well with me that her husband buried ransom money and never found it. This seemed to negate the strength of her story. The timing just seemed too interesting. She was confident this trip took place in the Fall of 1979. The ransom was discovered in February 1980. Mere months apart. Was this just coincidence, or was there more to the story?

I would eventually pour over the details of this trip with her on countless occasions. I also went out and drove and walked around some of the areas she told me about.

Over time, I would also remind her of how I came about her story – through a card counting forum. Her response every time I mentioned this was the same, “You know, Duane was a card counter.”

I never argued with her on her assertion. I found it funny. I say something and she finds a way to bring up Duane. She's like that online as well. There's no way Duane was a card counter and I knew it. She said he never read books. If true, how did he learn about card counting? She never mentioned him practicing. All she'd ever say is that he'd go from casino to casino only once and never go back.

She told me this several times over the course of about 3 years.

In the next post, I'll walk you through some reasons why I began to doubt her narrative. I don't know what will be more surprising, the things I find that hint Duane was telling the truth, or that his wife ever believed the narrative I outlined above.

Keep your skepticism, keep reading.

Last Edited by The DarkShadow on 01/20/2017 07:33 AM

Excellent points.

Private Dick, What say you?

Private Dick, From the post above about Duane Weber.

Cooper's Son: "No, he was never named publicly a suspect."

I think their was a college student 20 y/o who was sitting across Cooper from 18 E. He was surprised that Tina Mucklow wasn't paying him any attention but only to an old man. He described Cooper as geeky with a turkey fold of the skin under his chin. He called it a "Turkey Gobble". Possibly going bald with his hair looking weird in a style. He saw Tina Mucklow coming on board the plane with a bag and with parachutes. But he didn't think he was being hijacked. When He got off the plane he found out he was being hijacked. FBI was calling people names coming off 727. He said Dan Cooper after saying his name. And no one said a word. So he knew the hijacker name was Dan Cooper. FBI told him not to go to the media or journalists. You don't know who the hijacker was or where he has been. Apparently in my opinion the FBI made him looked like some type of schizophrenic wackjob who was delusional and didn't see reality. FBI thought this guy was nuts and was really thinking he was Dan Cooper the super hero from the comic books.

Did DB Cooper your father had turkey folded skin under his chin? And was he known to wearing eye glasses op?

Last night the ghostwriter called and asked if I had any pictures or other interesting photos. This morning I went to my mothers and got her picture boxes out of the attic. Found some real doozies. There were some pictures of him flying an old DC-3. I never knew he was multiengine qualified. The real shocker were a couple of pictures of him in Panama with Manual Noriega. Why would he be around Noriega? The writer was thrilled by the discovery. Later this evening we opened the last box and there was a picture on DB in a suit shaking hands with Augusto Pinochet at what appeared to be a military event. I haven't told the writer about this picture yet. What the heck what was dad involved in?

Glasses in his later years but I don't think he had what I would call a turkey neck. He was always in good shape until he got cancer.

Maybe your old man was a drug mule for Noriega. Pinochet was a drug trafficker also so maybe your old man was muleing for him too. And if he was in bed with those two, then perhaps he was also muleing for Pablo Escobar as well.

OP, I'm not saying your dad did. Maybe your dad had a dark side you didn't know about?

Since your dad was an experienced pilot who lived in Florida and had his own plane there, well it seems strange, doesn't it?

At last! Something good , like the old Glp!

As I was saying earlier many Viet Nam vets were very badly treated when they returned to the USA. "Baby killers" was not the worst of the names they were called. Almost all of Western Europe and much of Liberal America were adamantly opposed to the escalating involvement and the military entry into Laos supposedly to attack escaping Viet Cong. Daily TV news reports claimed it was "a good day" when high numbers of the enemy were killed.

PTSD and the truth about the physical and mental effects of all the chemicals sprayed for military purposes like "Agent Orange" were not yet known. So you had tough, fighters who finally got to return home and just couldn't "fit in" anymore to the current culture.

Bonding together and needing $$ and a new start they were still adamantly against the growing spread of Communism hitting Latin and South America backed by Cuba via USSR and China. Rumors of hired "guns" or drivers with the ability to check for explosives and to avoid assassins paid very well for thoroughly trained, fearless ex-vets.

US military factions informally with the knowledge if not the approval of the CIA were needed to protect American interests in Latin and South America including those of major companies and multi-nationals and their very wealthy owners and managers. Deals were cut with whomever opposed the spread of Communism whose leaders automatically confiscated the property and vast homes of US citizens by force. Communism meant US businesses operating in that country would be taken over as well.

Agreements were forged at parties between a countries' leaders and the elite businessmen of whatever nationality and the upper classes. That's how business is usually done South of the Border. So providing security and saving the lives of various kingpins and their families, ensuring the continuation of governance for both their interests as well as US corporations, I'm sure Dan Cooper was entitled to a few friendly pictures.

Today it's well known that the Emperor of Japan is quietly on very friendly terms with the Head of the Yakuza, the vicious leader of organized crime and the drug trade et al. In fact the Emperor wouldn't be in power at all if he didn't kow tow and go along with whatever was wanted. Income from nefarious sources is what many countries' economy is based upon. Turkey is no different. So as long as Erdogan gets his cut of the profits and certain activities stay under the radar . . .

OP, Another long explanation, I know. Just wanted to reassure you of your father's value to American interests and to the government's policies. Oh one more example. A close friend and ex-career Navy Officer of 20 years was stationed for a time in Saudi Arabia.

If he had a slightly different position and spoke Arabic he would have had similar pictures with many of the Saudi Royals. Years later I'm sure it would come to light that some of them were involved with activities the US would consider immoral, right? Happened regularly in Afghanistan with Bacchi Baza or "boy parties." C'est la vie.

Always both political sides of all political and military conflicts are corrupt and involved in activities many Americans would consider to be just plain wrong. Almost all treat their enemies unjustly and even brutally too.

Last Edited by NotStarvingActress on 01/20/2017 11:24 PM

I doubt his dad known as Dan Cooper would bother to sell drugs. Amateur scientists linked the evidence on his tie to manufacturing airplanes for Boeing. I'm pretty sure he was making good money and didn't need to sell drugs. Remember! You can't always get rich selling drugs. That is a myth many still do believe today.

Thanks for all the interesting reading, I appreciate your efforts and contributions and good stories in this thread.