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So first of all, no one is in any way, shape, or form claiming anything within this thread to be truth. It is only meant to be a discussion of hypothetical possibilities. So, on that note, let's begin:

We all know that, according to our Earthly knowledge, Planet X/Nibiru does not seem to exist. Happy shills and trolls? Good.

However, what I'm wondering is... what *hypothetical* technology would need to exist in order for a rouge planet to travel into our solar system without being detected by conventional (Earthly) methods? This could include things done
done on Earth to dissuade the masses or hinder researchers from discovering crucial information. That's what I'm wondering.

To all those interested in such things, what are your thoughts?
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One star bandit on a hypothetical conversation thread.

Go figure...
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What's a "Rouge Planet"? Is it really red?
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What's a "Rouge Planet"? Is it really red?
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I don't know the color, if it were to exist. A rouge planet could be many different things, but in this case, hypothetically, it would have to be a planet that had somehow been "captured" and technologically enhanced over millions of years. It would be a planet-sized space ship of sorts, with some type of cloaking device and/or the ability to phase in and out of dimensional realms.

But like I said, this is all hypothetical.
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You would need technology to shift it to a parallel dimension so it doesn't interact with gravity, otherwise it would wreak havoc on the entire solar system.

You basically need to make it invisible and undetectable to all known human science.
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here let me help it's rogue planet.
Take the planet out of the visible spectrum ie:brown dwarf and it disappears.
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here let me help it's rogue planet.
Take the planet out of the visible spectrum ie:brown dwarf and it disappears.
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But you still would need to deal with the gravity factor + the are ways to detect brown dwarfs, even if they are faint. I think one method is known as Microlensing.
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You would need technology to shift it to a parallel dimension so it doesn't interact with gravity, otherwise it would wreak havoc on the entire solar system.

You basically need to make it invisible and undetectable to all known human science.
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Agreed, that's what it would take. Just seeing if anyone has survived ideas off what that would incorporate... How did one shift into another dimension? What does that even mean? Higher vibrational frequency? You tell me...
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First off, it would no longer be a planet, but a giant star ship, with alien tech at level 2 or 3 civ.
They would have to be able to shield the ship in a electromagnetic wave form, that would carry ALL forms of energy and deflect it around the ship, so that no matter where it is it will reflect what should be behind it from our point of view. Not an easy task for us, but could be for a type 2-3 civ.
It would also have to deflect the solar wind around it. As that can be seen too. With so many variables in the math of this supposed planet, it could NOT be a planet, but more on the line of a "death star" from Star Wars.
Now that we got that straight, it would also be capable of light speed, so there's less chance of seeing it coming so to speak. In all probability the craft would actually have to travel faster than light. Which would then negate all the conditions mentioned. It would come without us seeing it. Just pop into existence right in our solar system. We would have NO WARNING at all it was on approach. NONE.
These are the reasons you KNOW all these supposed sightings are BS.
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First off, it would no longer be a planet, but a giant star ship, with alien tech at level 2 or 3 civ.
They would have to be able to shield the ship in a electromagnetic wave form, that would carry ALL forms of energy and deflect it around the ship, so that no matter where it is it will reflect what should be behind it from our point of view. Not an easy task for us, but could be for a type 2-3 civ.
It would also have to deflect the solar wind around it. As that can be seen too. With so many variables in the math of this supposed planet, it could NOT be a planet, but more on the line of a "death star" from Star Wars.
Now that we got that straight, it would also be capable of light speed, so there's less chance of seeing it coming so to speak. In all probability the craft would actually have to travel faster than light. Which would then negate all the conditions mentioned. It would come without us seeing it. Just pop into existence right in our solar system. We would have NO WARNING at all it was on approach. NONE.
These are the reasons you KNOW all these supposed sightings are BS.
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In theory, do you believe that an advanced enough ET race could develop the technology to phase into our dimension without altering the gravity field around it? Basically, would it be possible to appear, while its gravity was turned "off"?
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First off, it would no longer be a planet, but a giant star ship, with alien tech at level 2 or 3 civ.
They would have to be able to shield the ship in a electromagnetic wave form, that would carry ALL forms of energy and deflect it around the ship, so that no matter where it is it will reflect what should be behind it from our point of view. Not an easy task for us, but could be for a type 2-3 civ.
It would also have to deflect the solar wind around it. As that can be seen too. With so many variables in the math of this supposed planet, it could NOT be a planet, but more on the line of a "death star" from Star Wars.
Now that we got that straight, it would also be capable of light speed, so there's less chance of seeing it coming so to speak. In all probability the craft would actually have to travel faster than light. Which would then negate all the conditions mentioned. It would come without us seeing it. Just pop into existence right in our solar system. We would have NO WARNING at all it was on approach. NONE.
These are the reasons you KNOW all these supposed sightings are BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73740180

In theory, do you believe that an advanced enough ET race could develop the technology to phase into our dimension without altering the gravity field around it? Basically, would it be possible to appear, while its gravity was turned "off"?
 Quoting: SeeEyeEh


Recently dark energy was theorized to have the ability to take you out of space/time if you surrounded your spacecraft with it. We at this time can't create dark energy, but only measure it. But if an advanced civ could harness this force, then sure.
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First off, it would no longer be a planet, but a giant star ship, with alien tech at level 2 or 3 civ.
They would have to be able to shield the ship in a electromagnetic wave form, that would carry ALL forms of energy and deflect it around the ship, so that no matter where it is it will reflect what should be behind it from our point of view. Not an easy task for us, but could be for a type 2-3 civ.
It would also have to deflect the solar wind around it. As that can be seen too. With so many variables in the math of this supposed planet, it could NOT be a planet, but more on the line of a "death star" from Star Wars.
Now that we got that straight, it would also be capable of light speed, so there's less chance of seeing it coming so to speak. In all probability the craft would actually have to travel faster than light. Which would then negate all the conditions mentioned. It would come without us seeing it. Just pop into existence right in our solar system. We would have NO WARNING at all it was on approach. NONE.
These are the reasons you KNOW all these supposed sightings are BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73740180

In theory, do you believe that an advanced enough ET race could develop the technology to phase into our dimension without altering the gravity field around it? Basically, would it be possible to appear, while its gravity was turned "off"?
 Quoting: SeeEyeEh


Recently dark energy was theorized to have the ability to take you out of space/time if you surrounded your spacecraft with it. We at this time can't create dark energy, but only measure it. But if an advanced civ could harness this force, then sure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73740180

So, if Nibiru were real, in order to approach Earth/our Solar System undetected by mankind, it would need some sort of dark energy field surrounding it (and its planetary companions) that allowed it to "step in and out" of time/space (The Simulation?) until the exact moment the advanced ET race decided it was time to phase into this dimension? That's what I'm understanding...
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Greetings: SeeEyeEh: User ID: 49048764

01/12/2017 02:27 PM

Let's Have A Purely Hypothetical Conversation Regarding ETI and Planet X

**WE (ETs) Prefer .... Just Of How Things Are !!

So first of all, no one is in any way, shape, or form claiming anything within this thread to be truth.

**Not Yet !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!!!

It is only meant to be a discussion of hypothetical possibilities. So, on that note, let's begin:

**Again ... WE (ETs) Prefer Things .... Just Of How Things Are !!

We all know that, according to our Earthly knowledge,

**Ours (ETs) .... Goes Wayyyyyyyyyyy Beyond .... "Earthly Knowledge" !!

Planet X/Nibiru does not seem to exist.

**It Does For US/WE (ETs) !!

Happy shills and trolls? Good.

**They ARE NOT "Involved" .... Of Ones ... To "Be Ignored" !!

However, what I'm wondering is... what *hypothetical* technology would need to exist in order for a rouge planet to travel into our solar system without being detected by conventional (Earthly) methods?

**This Has Not Happened !! .... However .... If You Are Asking Of .... The Ability To "Cloak" & Not Be Detected .... Of A Giant World/Traveling Space Ship .... & It's Companion Worlds ... Those As Large As Terra/Earth ... The Ability/Technology Does Exist !!

**The Ability To Enter The Sol Solar System .... Of Such A Cloaked World/Traveling Space Ship ... & It's Companion Worlds .... & Be Undetected .... Not Disturbing Any Of The Planets Within The System .... Or Making Any Detectable "Wake" Or "Evidences" That They Are Near/Around ... Yes .... This Can Be Easily Done !!

This could include things done done on Earth to dissuade the masses or hinder researchers from discovering crucial information. That's what I'm wondering.

**Those Are Of "Others" .... That Desire/Wish .... For Their "Personal Worlds Of Deception" .... Of Greed & Control Over Others .... Other Things .... Not Be Changed Or Disturbed In Any Way !! ... They Have No Wish/Desire For Others ... Beside Themselves ... Of Which Others Are Used For Their Gains/Purposes .... Not For Others Benefits !! ... It Is "They" Who Would Feel Frightened ... On The Prospect Of Their "Artificial Worlds" Disappearing .... & Of Their "Power" Being Taken From Them ... Power Of Which They Never Had Or Possessed !!

To all those interested in such things, what are your thoughts?

**It Is US/WE (ETs) Who Are Of The "Terra/Earth Project" ... Of Which Nibiru .... Or The Great Destroyer (If You Prefer ??) .... Is Involved & Will Be Involved In Purifying/Cleansing Terra/Earth ... Along With It's Companion Worlds ... & All Things "Coming Along For The Ride" ... Such As .... Comets, Asteroids, Meteors, Meteorites, & Many Other Things Besides !!

**When Will All These Things Happen ?? .... When All Things Come About !! .... When That "Artificial "Reality" "Lines Up" !! ... That "Frame" Overlaps & "True Reality" Is Re-Opened Up .... It Is Let Open .... Where All Things Realign To The "NOW Moment" !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG

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You would need technology to shift it to a parallel dimension so it doesn't interact with gravity, otherwise it would wreak havoc on the entire solar system.

You basically need to make it invisible and undetectable to all known human science.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72851168

Agreed, that's what it would take. Just seeing if anyone has survived ideas off what that would incorporate... How did one shift into another dimension? What does that even mean? Higher vibrational frequency? You tell me...
 Quoting: SeeEyeEh


Nibiru and all associated is coming our way but they are not in 3rd density. Yes, everything vibrates at a much faster frequency. Meaning they are in a much higher density.

Think of it this way. 2d is a ice cube. 3d is water. 4d is steam. 5d is vapor...so on and so forth.

I have just up loaded a video on my youtube channel. I have 4-5 other better than the first one I will give you the link for.

As the title says all three of these objects are the one. The far left one. If I can find it easy enough I will give a second link to another object that is the same as the far left just different time of year and edited differently. Notice the Energy? Vibratory rate?

All of these were done by me and are quite authentic. There are as couple more done in a different edit.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

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[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Since ST in BG posted I will give you a 5 STar for ST's post alone.

Regards
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And I will NutBump it. Its your lucky night.

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You would need technology to shift it to a parallel dimension so it doesn't interact with gravity, otherwise it would wreak havoc on the entire solar system.

You basically need to make it invisible and undetectable to all known human science.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72851168

Agreed, that's what it would take. Just seeing if anyone has survived ideas off what that would incorporate... How did one shift into another dimension? What does that even mean? Higher vibrational frequency? You tell me...
 Quoting: SeeEyeEh


Nibiru and all associated is coming our way but they are not in 3rd density. Yes, everything vibrates at a much faster frequency. Meaning they are in a much higher density.

Think of it this way. 2d is a ice cube. 3d is water. 4d is steam. 5d is vapor...so on and so forth.

I have just up loaded a video on my youtube channel. I have 4-5 other better than the first one I will give you the link for.

As the title says all three of these objects are the one. The far left one. If I can find it easy enough I will give a second link to another object that is the same as the far left just different time of year and edited differently. Notice the Energy? Vibratory rate?

All of these were done by me and are quite authentic. There are as couple more done in a different edit.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Since ST in BG posted I will give you a 5 STar for ST's post alone.

Regards
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Greetings: SeeEyeEh: User ID: 49048764

01/12/2017 02:27 PM

Let's Have A Purely Hypothetical Conversation Regarding ETI and Planet X

**WE (ETs) Prefer .... Just Of How Things Are !!

So first of all, no one is in any way, shape, or form claiming anything within this thread to be truth.

**Not Yet !! .... Hee Hee Hee !!!!

It is only meant to be a discussion of hypothetical possibilities. So, on that note, let's begin:

**Again ... WE (ETs) Prefer Things .... Just Of How Things Are !!

We all know that, according to our Earthly knowledge,

**Ours (ETs) .... Goes Wayyyyyyyyyyy Beyond .... "Earthly Knowledge" !!

Planet X/Nibiru does not seem to exist.

**It Does For US/WE (ETs) !!

Happy shills and trolls? Good.

**They ARE NOT "Involved" .... Of Ones ... To "Be Ignored" !!

However, what I'm wondering is... what *hypothetical* technology would need to exist in order for a rouge planet to travel into our solar system without being detected by conventional (Earthly) methods?

**This Has Not Happened !! .... However .... If You Are Asking Of .... The Ability To "Cloak" & Not Be Detected .... Of A Giant World/Traveling Space Ship .... & It's Companion Worlds ... Those As Large As Terra/Earth ... The Ability/Technology Does Exist !!

**The Ability To Enter The Sol Solar System .... Of Such A Cloaked World/Traveling Space Ship ... & It's Companion Worlds .... & Be Undetected .... Not Disturbing Any Of The Planets Within The System .... Or Making Any Detectable "Wake" Or "Evidences" That They Are Near/Around ... Yes .... This Can Be Easily Done !!

This could include things done done on Earth to dissuade the masses or hinder researchers from discovering crucial information. That's what I'm wondering.

**Those Are Of "Others" .... That Desire/Wish .... For Their "Personal Worlds Of Deception" .... Of Greed & Control Over Others .... Other Things .... Not Be Changed Or Disturbed In Any Way !! ... They Have No Wish/Desire For Others ... Beside Themselves ... Of Which Others Are Used For Their Gains/Purposes .... Not For Others Benefits !! ... It Is "They" Who Would Feel Frightened ... On The Prospect Of Their "Artificial Worlds" Disappearing .... & Of Their "Power" Being Taken From Them ... Power Of Which They Never Had Or Possessed !!

To all those interested in such things, what are your thoughts?

**It Is US/WE (ETs) Who Are Of The "Terra/Earth Project" ... Of Which Nibiru .... Or The Great Destroyer (If You Prefer ??) .... Is Involved & Will Be Involved In Purifying/Cleansing Terra/Earth ... Along With It's Companion Worlds ... & All Things "Coming Along For The Ride" ... Such As .... Comets, Asteroids, Meteors, Meteorites, & Many Other Things Besides !!

**When Will All These Things Happen ?? .... When All Things Come About !! .... When That "Artificial "Reality" "Lines Up" !! ... That "Frame" Overlaps & "True Reality" Is Re-Opened Up .... It Is Let Open .... Where All Things Realign To The "NOW Moment" !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Thank you for your feedback, ST! peacehf
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You would need technology to shift it to a parallel dimension so it doesn't interact with gravity, otherwise it would wreak havoc on the entire solar system.

You basically need to make it invisible and undetectable to all known human science.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72851168

Agreed, that's what it would take. Just seeing if anyone has survived ideas off what that would incorporate... How did one shift into another dimension? What does that even mean? Higher vibrational frequency? You tell me...
 Quoting: SeeEyeEh


Nibiru and all associated is coming our way but they are not in 3rd density. Yes, everything vibrates at a much faster frequency. Meaning they are in a much higher density.

Think of it this way. 2d is a ice cube. 3d is water. 4d is steam. 5d is vapor...so on and so forth.

I have just up loaded a video on my youtube channel. I have 4-5 other better than the first one I will give you the link for.

As the title says all three of these objects are the one. The far left one. If I can find it easy enough I will give a second link to another object that is the same as the far left just different time of year and edited differently. Notice the Energy? Vibratory rate?

All of these were done by me and are quite authentic. There are as couple more done in a different edit.


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

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[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Since ST in BG posted I will give you a 5 STar for ST's post alone.

Regards
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Thanks, RightNut!
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Are you familiar with Dean Koontz the author?
He wrote a book titled "The Taken".
In it their is an alien race who tries to teraform Earth.
The kicker is the planet that is coming, is actually a ship that is an malevolent entity that is living.
It consumes people and the become part of it.
It is referred to as Apollyon the destroyer of worlds that has been around since time began and that is it's purpose.
Maybe Planet X is that as well.
Regardless, it's a great read.
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Are you familiar with Dean Koontz the author?
He wrote a book titled "The Taken".
In it their is an alien race who tries to teraform Earth.
The kicker is the planet that is coming, is actually a ship that is an malevolent entity that is living.
It consumes people and the become part of it.
It is referred to as Apollyon the destroyer of worlds that has been around since time began and that is it's purpose.
Maybe Planet X is that as well.
Regardless, it's a great read.
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Sounds intriguing. I'll have to check it out!
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here let me help it's rogue planet.
Take the planet out of the visible spectrum ie:brown dwarf and it disappears.
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Nibiru is in fact both rogue and rouge (= French for "red")
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First off, it would no longer be a planet, but a giant star ship, with alien tech at level 2 or 3 civ.
They would have to be able to shield the ship in a electromagnetic wave form, that would carry ALL forms of energy and deflect it around the ship, so that no matter where it is it will reflect what should be behind it from our point of view. Not an easy task for us, but could be for a type 2-3 civ.
It would also have to deflect the solar wind around it. As that can be seen too. With so many variables in the math of this supposed planet, it could NOT be a planet, but more on the line of a "death star" from Star Wars.
Now that we got that straight, it would also be capable of light speed, so there's less chance of seeing it coming so to speak. In all probability the craft would actually have to travel faster than light. Which would then negate all the conditions mentioned. It would come without us seeing it. Just pop into existence right in our solar system. We would have NO WARNING at all it was on approach. NONE.
These are the reasons you KNOW all these supposed sightings are BS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73740180

In theory, do you believe that an advanced enough ET race could develop the technology to phase into our dimension without altering the gravity field around it? Basically, would it be possible to appear, while its gravity was turned "off"?
 Quoting: SeeEyeEh


Recently dark energy was theorized to have the ability to take you out of space/time if you surrounded your spacecraft with it. We at this time can't create dark energy, but only measure it. But if an advanced civ could harness this force, then sure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73740180

So, if Nibiru were real, in order to approach Earth/our Solar System undetected by mankind, it would need some sort of dark energy field surrounding it (and its planetary companions) that allowed it to "step in and out" of time/space (The Simulation?) until the exact moment the advanced ET race decided it was time to phase into this dimension? That's what I'm understanding...
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It has nothing to do with dimensions. But more of leaving space/time and coming back into space/time where you want. No need to go into another dimension for that.
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In theory, do you believe that an advanced enough ET race could develop the technology to phase into our dimension without altering the gravity field around it? Basically, would it be possible to appear, while its gravity was turned "off"?
 Quoting: SeeEyeEh


Recently dark energy was theorized to have the ability to take you out of space/time if you surrounded your spacecraft with it. We at this time can't create dark energy, but only measure it. But if an advanced civ could harness this force, then sure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73740180

So, if Nibiru were real, in order to approach Earth/our Solar System undetected by mankind, it would need some sort of dark energy field surrounding it (and its planetary companions) that allowed it to "step in and out" of time/space (The Simulation?) until the exact moment the advanced ET race decided it was time to phase into this dimension? That's what I'm understanding...
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It has nothing to do with dimensions. But more of leaving space/time and coming back into space/time where you want. No need to go into another dimension for that.
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If that was/is the case, is there any way to explain how that process works in a way that a human mind could understand?
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Recently dark energy was theorized to have the ability to take you out of space/time if you surrounded your spacecraft with it. We at this time can't create dark energy, but only measure it. But if an advanced civ could harness this force, then sure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73740180

So, if Nibiru were real, in order to approach Earth/our Solar System undetected by mankind, it would need some sort of dark energy field surrounding it (and its planetary companions) that allowed it to "step in and out" of time/space (The Simulation?) until the exact moment the advanced ET race decided it was time to phase into this dimension? That's what I'm understanding...
 Quoting: SeeEyeEh


It has nothing to do with dimensions. But more of leaving space/time and coming back into space/time where you want. No need to go into another dimension for that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73740180

If that was/is the case, is there any way to explain how that process works in a way that a human mind could understand?
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Surely it's not THAT hard to grasp. But I'll try. Imagine the dark energy bubble around the ship. It's like a bubble of methane coming from the bottom of the ocean and floating up. Space/time is the water. But something in the bubble isn't actually IN THE OCEAN, it's in it's own space, inside the bubble. Still it is moving through the medium space/time (represented by the ocean) and once it gets to the place/surface, the bubble is gone and there it is not having traveled through the ocean, but within the bubble and now on the surface. It's all theoretical science. You could make the dark energy bubble around your ship, and now are moving, without actually moving. You are no longer in space/time, but outside of it, moving. But the movement is actually not movement on your part, but space/time is flowing around you. So a slight bump from you, would send you wizzing along. Because being out of space/time distance has NO meaning. No time passes for you, inside that bubble, so you haven't aged a second. Think of the old Sci-Fi novels talking about hyperspace. You pop out here, and pop back in there. You really didn't move much, but space/time did.
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So, if Nibiru were real, in order to approach Earth/our Solar System undetected by mankind, it would need some sort of dark energy field surrounding it (and its planetary companions) that allowed it to "step in and out" of time/space (The Simulation?) until the exact moment the advanced ET race decided it was time to phase into this dimension? That's what I'm understanding...
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It has nothing to do with dimensions. But more of leaving space/time and coming back into space/time where you want. No need to go into another dimension for that.
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If that was/is the case, is there any way to explain how that process works in a way that a human mind could understand?
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Surely it's not THAT hard to grasp. But I'll try. Imagine the dark energy bubble around the ship. It's like a bubble of methane coming from the bottom of the ocean and floating up. Space/time is the water. But something in the bubble isn't actually IN THE OCEAN, it's in it's own space, inside the bubble. Still it is moving through the medium space/time (represented by the ocean) and once it gets to the place/surface, the bubble is gone and there it is not having traveled through the ocean, but within the bubble and now on the surface. It's all theoretical science. You could make the dark energy bubble around your ship, and now are moving, without actually moving. You are no longer in space/time, but outside of it, moving. But the movement is actually not movement on your part, but space/time is flowing around you. So a slight bump from you, would send you wizzing along. Because being out of space/time distance has NO meaning. No time passes for you, inside that bubble, so you haven't aged a second. Think of the old Sci-Fi novels talking about hyperspace. You pop out here, and pop back in there. You really didn't move much, but space/time did.
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I understand the concept now and also appreciate your descriptive anology. Sometimes it is difficult to wrap your head around such things, so thank you for taking the time to explain it more fully.
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You're most welcome. I wrote the guy who discovered dark energy a long time ago, and asked him if the effect (which pushes all things down to the atom apart) would have any use on space travel. He told me "the effect is so little, it would not be useful for space travel", but he was wrong. After he published his results, more scientist grabbed onto the idea and found the math for what I described to you. So it was possible, and is, but he just failed to see the full picture.
I love writing scientist, if you have good questions they haven't thought of, they will usually answer you. But you need to understand what you're asking or the answer will dumbfound you. I study this topic a LOT. Sometimes my insights are spot on, but not always, we all have our failure times. But on this topic it turns out I had something come to mind that was later proven correct.
I don't know why, I knew of this, but to me it always made sense. That if you were going to travel faster than light, you could not be in space/time. Eventually you would collide with something, or dust would chew your ship up. You can't make an electromagnetic shield like on star trek, and it still project out in front of you, when you travel faster than light. It would always lag behind you. If you get what I mean. So Leaving space/time is the only way to travel faster than light. It has nothing to do with alternative dimensions, because they too contain space/time, although it would be slightly different.

I hope this has made sense to you. I love, no really love, helping others understand complex topics.
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You're most welcome. I wrote the guy who discovered dark energy a long time ago, and asked him if the effect (which pushes all things down to the atom apart) would have any use on space travel. He told me "the effect is so little, it would not be useful for space travel", but he was wrong. After he published his results, more scientist grabbed onto the idea and found the math for what I described to you. So it was possible, and is, but he just failed to see the full picture.
I love writing scientist, if you have good questions they haven't thought of, they will usually answer you. But you need to understand what you're asking or the answer will dumbfound you. I study this topic a LOT. Sometimes my insights are spot on, but not always, we all have our failure times. But on this topic it turns out I had something come to mind that was later proven correct.
I don't know why, I knew of this, but to me it always made sense. That if you were going to travel faster than light, you could not be in space/time. Eventually you would collide with something, or dust would chew your ship up. You can't make an electromagnetic shield like on star trek, and it still project out in front of you, when you travel faster than light. It would always lag behind you. If you get what I mean. So Leaving space/time is the only way to travel faster than light. It has nothing to do with alternative dimensions, because they too contain space/time, although it would be slightly different.

I hope this has made sense to you. I love, no really love, helping others understand complex topics.
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This has been super informative and I think will help a lot of people understand that there is at least a possibility that a Nibiru system could exist undected within our galactic neighborhood. Thank you!
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Just so you know, I do not believe in Nibiru. It's been a "fad" since the early 2000's. Seriously. There's been WAY to many video's showing it as a STAR!!! Then it was the "brown dwarf", then it became a rogue planet... do I need to say more? OKAY I will. It was supposed to be here, visible in telescopes in 2000. Then next year, it was near but not in the solar system, then in 2005, it was again seen as a STAR right next to ours. Then every year after it's been non-stop Nibiru is coming, PlanetX IS Nibiru, bla bla bla. Most of it has been lense flares, BS
It was all based on some VERY old tablets from the Sumerian's. That talked about a planet around another star system, where the Gods came from. Then they came in 3600 year returns, supposedly for the gold. "Think battlefield earth movie and books". Those books are where all the glamorous shit came from. L. Ron Hubbars, battlefield earth. 12-13 books, I can't remember it's been so long. But they are were all the other stuff about the Annunaki came from. Even the books were written loosely base on them.

You would be best off to forget Nibiru. If it's real, it's a planet around another star, a long way from here, and the trip one way takes 3600 years by those that came here. Get it? Since it's been WAY over 3600 years, it's fake, OR, those that came before didn't want to return anymore LOL
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Opps L. Ron Hubbard





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