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"Is not yet too late for Protestants to redeem themselves. Will they do it?... will they indeed take the written word only, the Scripture alone, as their sole authority and their sole standard? Or will they still hold the indefensible, self contradictory, and suicidal doctrine and practice of following the authority of the Catholic church and wear the SIGN of her authority? Will they keep the Sabbath of the Lord, the seventh day, according to Scripture? Or will they keep the Sunday according to the tradition of the Catholic church, -Rome's Challenge, page 31

For the record, I am Protestant.

Exodus 20:8-11  Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.  9  Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:  10  But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:  11  For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

God's 7th Day is the Sabbath. God's Sabbath was not changed, nor is there any place within the Scriptures that show that God's Sabbath was changed. But the Bible does show that a power would try to change God's law. The prophetic book of Daniel says:

Daniel 7:25  And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

The Catholic Church is very blunt and blatant of their tradition being used to supplant the Scriptures. And now, she is trying to enforce her religious tradition upon the world. The Pharisees were zealous for their traditions, instead of the commandments of God, and Jesus rebuked them to their faces for it.

Matthew 15:3  But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

Matthew 15:7-9  Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,  8  This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.  9  But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.


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Its too late for protestants. They have manipulated the words of jesus into a money making scheme and left the path of wisdom. The only way to redemption is to devote the rest of their lives to the church and humanity and stay away from money. Money corrupts absolutely.
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Its too late for protestants. They have manipulated the words of jesus into a money making scheme and left the path of wisdom. The only way to redemption is to devote the rest of their lives to the church and humanity and stay away from money. Money corrupts absolutely.
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oh shut the fuck up

do you realise how stupid you sound, when that frock wearing pedo you worship leads the richest religion on the planet?
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Its too late for protestants. They have manipulated the words of jesus into a money making scheme and left the path of wisdom. The only way to redemption is to devote the rest of their lives to the church and humanity and stay away from money. Money corrupts absolutely.
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Isnt that vatican worth like 15billion?
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Its too late for protestants. They have manipulated the words of jesus into a money making scheme and left the path of wisdom. The only way to redemption is to devote the rest of their lives to the church and humanity and stay away from money. Money corrupts absolutely.
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oh shut the fuck up

do you realise how stupid you sound, when that frock wearing pedo you worship leads the richest religion on the planet?
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How much is the Queen worth?

Do yu also agree that the Queen's preachers should open abortion clinics.

That right, nobody cares since abortion provides jobs for freemasons to sell you some battle between good vs evil bullshit.
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Its too late for protestants. They have manipulated the words of jesus into a money making scheme and left the path of wisdom. The only way to redemption is to devote the rest of their lives to the church and humanity and stay away from money. Money corrupts absolutely.
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This, manipulated the word big time.
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Its too late for protestants. They have manipulated the words of jesus into a money making scheme and left the path of wisdom. The only way to redemption is to devote the rest of their lives to the church and humanity and stay away from money. Money corrupts absolutely.
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This, manipulated the word big time.
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Revelation 18:4-5  And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.  5  For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

The only solution for a Christian currently trapped in the fallen churches, is to come out of them, including Babylonian Protestant Churches.

Revelation 18:3  For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

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Its too late for protestants. They have manipulated the words of jesus into a money making scheme and left the path of wisdom. The only way to redemption is to devote the rest of their lives to the church and humanity and stay away from money. Money corrupts absolutely.
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Your church convinces its converts that there is a place called purgatory in which their loved ones suffer - and that if the grieving relatives just spend money on special sacrifices to be said repeatedly that they can speed up their departure from such a place.

That is a money making scam by men who make merchandise out of people
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Its too late for protestants. They have manipulated the words of jesus into a money making scheme and left the path of wisdom. The only way to redemption is to devote the rest of their lives to the church and humanity and stay away from money. Money corrupts absolutely.
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Your church convinces its converts that there is a place called purgatory in which their loved ones suffer - and that if the grieving relatives just spend money on special sacrifices to be said repeatedly that they can speed up their departure from such a place.

That is a money making scam by men who make merchandise out of people
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No it doesn't teach that. Plenary indulgences are earned by certain acts or devotions, like going to confession, praying for someone, etc. Nobody has to pay the church money to get someone out of purgatory and if at any point they did, then those who enabled it were in error.
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the only smart people in this thread so far are flying the british flag.

the vatican can fuck itself
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the church behind the spanish inqusition.

the massacre of the kathars.(who where living and preaching more like jesus than the money hungrey catholic church)

forcibly converting people at sword point.

kiddie fiddlers.

greedy wankers who claim you could pay them to be cleansed of evil deeds.

the list goes fuckin on.
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Protestants are reformed Catholics.
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the church behind the spanish inqusition.

the massacre of the kathars.(who where living and preaching more like jesus than the money hungrey catholic church)

forcibly converting people at sword point.

kiddie fiddlers.

greedy wankers who claim you could pay them to be cleansed of evil deeds.

the list goes fuckin on.
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Should I focus on your sins too and ignore all of the good that you do? The Catholic church is also the most charitable organization in the world by far.
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the church behind the spanish inqusition.

the massacre of the kathars.(who where living and preaching more like jesus than the money hungrey catholic church)

forcibly converting people at sword point.

kiddie fiddlers.

greedy wankers who claim you could pay them to be cleansed of evil deeds.

the list goes fuckin on.
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Should I focus on your sins too and ignore all of the good that you do? The Catholic church is also the most charitable organization in the world by far.
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They've also spent over a billion dollar in settlements and legal fees since the mid 90's.
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Why do some American protestants have such hard ons for Catholics?
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Protestants are reformed Catholics.
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There's also been Christians who were around before the Catholic church and ever since that aren't Catholic or Orthodox or Protestants.

Many were slaughtered and burned at the stake at the hands of Rome.

Thanks for the invite but isn't Christ about free will? Converting or becoming a Christian at the end of a sword was never something Jesus taught.
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ROME SIDED WITH THE ISLAMIC BEAST

FUCK ROME
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Why do some American protestants have such hard ons for Catholics?
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They see too many pagan origins in that sort of Christianity and in way too many places actually goes against what the word of God says.

Nothing against the Catholics that don't want to murder someone at the sword or who love God but many think the Catholics aren't getting the truth and are being used and taught things that go against Gods wishes.
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Protestants are those that protest against what the Pope says and those that follow Roman-Catholicism.
If you do any of that, you're a protestant.

The bible is yours alone to interpret.
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Protestants are reformed Catholics.
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There's also been Christians who were around before the Catholic church and ever since that aren't Catholic or Orthodox or Protestants.

Many were slaughtered and burned at the stake at the hands of Rome.

Thanks for the invite but isn't Christ about free will? Converting or becoming a Christian at the end of a sword was never something Jesus taught.
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Sure, but most self-professed "real" Christians call them heretics. Then and now.

Thread: 27 February 380 AD; the single most important document in the history of Christianity, and perhaps even mankind.
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Protestants are those that protest against what the Pope says and those that follow Roman-Catholicism.
If you do any of that, you're a protestant.

The bible is yours alone to interpret.
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This.

There were a group referred to as Protestants that came out of the Catholic church but sects like the Baptists are Protestants, per say as a noun but perhaps (p)rotestants as a verb.
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Protestants are those that protest against what the Pope says and those that follow Roman-Catholicism.
If you do any of that, you're a protestant.

The bible is yours alone to interpret.
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This.

There were a group referred to as Protestants that came out of the Catholic church but sects like the Baptists are NOT Protestants, per say as a noun but perhaps (p)rotestants as a verb.
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Why do some American protestants have such hard ons for Catholics?
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Because some historically ignorant American Evanglicals think their particular branch of Christendom developed without any influence from their Catholic mother church.

The Catholic church is an abomination btw.
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More 7th Day Adventist false teaching.

Christ came to free us from the law and fulfill it.

Its not the when we worship, but the who we worship. If one wants to congregate to worship on Saturday or Sunday, or even Monday they have the freedom under the new covenant to do so. Please don't distort the Bible's instructions to perpetuate the myth that Sunday is the Mark of the Beast, a replacement of Saturday. It is not. Worship is a way of life not a particular day of assembly over another day.
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Why do some American protestants have such hard ons for Catholics?
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Because some historically ignorant American Evanglicals think their particular branch of Christendom developed without any influence from their Catholic mother church.

The Catholic church is an abomination btw.
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Just because some jerk drugs you and tattoos his name your butt doesn't mean you ever belonged to him.

People can say whatever they want, it doesn't make it true.

Here:

Some people claim there was a church since the time of Christ (which obviously there was) that has never submitted to Rome.


That better?
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The Catholic Church is very blunt and blatant of their tradition being used to supplant the Scriptures. And now, she is trying to enforce her religious tradition upon the world. The Pharisees were zealous for their traditions, instead of the commandments of God, and Jesus rebuked them to their faces for it.

Matthew 15:3  But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

Matthew 15:7-9  Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,  8  This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.  9  But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.


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"Did not Moses give you the law, and yet NONE of you makes the law?"

These people are not making/doing the law.

They give the APPEARANCE of doing so, but that is fooling and corrupting everyone. What they are teaching LOOKS LIKE the law, but is not. It is their own commandments and traditions - those of men.
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Protestants are those that protest against what the Pope says and those that follow Roman-Catholicism.
If you do any of that, you're a protestant.

The bible is yours alone to interpret.
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No, Jesus said "I taught these mother fuckers, now listen to them. A few will do even cooler shit then me"
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The Catholic Church is very blunt and blatant of their tradition being used to supplant the Scriptures. And now, she is trying to enforce her religious tradition upon the world. The Pharisees were zealous for their traditions, instead of the commandments of God, and Jesus rebuked them to their faces for it.

Matthew 15:3  But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

Matthew 15:7-9  Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,  8  This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.  9  But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.


 Quoting: DGenesis1:29


"Did not Moses give you the law, and yet NONE of you makes the law?"

These people are not making/doing the law.

They give the APPEARANCE of doing so, but that is fooling and corrupting everyone. What they are teaching LOOKS LIKE the law, but is not. It is their own commandments and traditions - those of men.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69160624


The Catholic Church isn't keeping the law.

Exodus 20:8-11  Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.  9  Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:  10  But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:  11  For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
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More 7th Day Adventist false teaching.

Christ came to free us from the law and fulfill it.

Its not the when we worship, but the who we worship. If one wants to congregate to worship on Saturday or Sunday, or even Monday they have the freedom under the new covenant to do so. Please don't distort the Bible's instructions to perpetuate the myth that Sunday is the Mark of the Beast, a replacement of Saturday. It is not. Worship is a way of life not a particular day of assembly over another day.
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He literally said he didn't come to abolish (katalysai) the law. Christian can't even make sense of their own contradictory religion. How were you even freed if you're a gentile and not under the law to begin with? Contradictions upon contradictions. And why didn't the RCC outlaw Sabbath keeping until the 4th century if early Christians didn't even keep it?
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Why do some American protestants have such hard ons for Catholics?
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Because some historically ignorant American Evanglicals think their particular branch of Christendom developed without any influence from their Catholic mother church.

The Catholic church is an abomination btw.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73798564


Just because some jerk drugs you and tattoos his name your butt doesn't mean you ever belonged to him.

People can say whatever they want, it doesn't make it true.

Here:

Some people claim there was a church since the time of Christ (which obviously there was) that has never submitted to Rome.


That better?
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The problem is these "real" Christians also subscribes to the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed and the Chalcedonian definition all whilst claiming no affiliation with the Church that invented and gave them those doctrines and creeds.
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Christians live in the Spirit.

Timelines are important. People can debate that all they want but if you want to know the truth, read the KJV of the Bible it doesn't have a copyright.

In the HOLY Bible you will find that Jesus came for the Jews first. After many denied him for a while, some did come to believe that he was their messiah. They figured out WHO he was, they already knew what he was their to do.

Then he went to the Greek and gentile who were then grafted into his Body, those that accepted Him for what he DID on the cross for them, they didn't originally know HIM but understood what he DID for them.

So, hope that explains it for those who are reading and trying to understand.

If you aren't even reading the kjv and aren't praying for truth it will be easy to be led astray.





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