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YOUR GOVERNMENT AT WORK FOR YOU - Federal workers turn to ENCRYPTED EMAIL and MESSAGE APPS to thwart Trump

 
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They can all whisper, but 80pct will back down when its time to take shots.

Balls are needed for action, nothing is needed for talk, not even brains.
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NOW they learn to use encryption?

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where all of the missing skittles end up
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Ya give 'em enough rope...



or in other words



"How to Drain the Swamp Without Really Trying"

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The entire bureacracy is filled with congenital antiTrumpers and lovers of theocracy.

They are a clear and present threat that believe they have a higher purpose and a more beloved tribal and national affilation.
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They can all whisper, but 80pct will back down when its time to take shots.

Balls are needed for action, nothing is needed for talk, not even brains.
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And what are they going to do when their Xanax, weed, and SSRI supplies are cut off?
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Absolute bullshit.

Trump should use trusted assets at the NSA to
ferret out the traitors and fire their asses!

 Quoting: Joe Camel


Wait, you are AGAINST this? Fool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73736449
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These are OUR government employees.

More importantly, they work for Trump. Not themselves.

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 Quoting: Joe Camel


They work for us (supposedly), not trump. Fuck trump. Are you still one of the wwe-type trumpanzees that populate this place?
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My taxes pay for these agencies right?

I want to see every thing they communicate.

If not, fire them all.
 Quoting: Some Guy in Indiana


Isn't that required for public offices?
If their actions are unlawful, they should be prosecuted and replaced.
 Quoting: B@Z


Yes..

no different than what that clinton bitch did.

they should face the same punishment.
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Fire them. Government employees are to be non-political, political employees excepted.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

That cannot be more illegal. The FOIA requires open and accessible communications be archived for future access. That is in the same category violation as being in possession of child porn on your government machine. Since it's encrypted, it might be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72839304


I'm glad this was brought up. My friend is a journalism major and so pissed off about the gag order.

"public institutions"

She reminded me of the Roosevelt quote about being critical of the President-highest form of Patriotism...

I have been searching for 1st Amend. case law on this, and it is still unclear to me. All I come up with is that "public interest" would be protected, whistleblowers.

Does the National Park Service have a 1st Amend right to tweet out something directly critical to the administration (never mind it's been 15 days), or not? Does a public employee have a right?

I have worked as a public employee, and I have always been told that any press questions were never to be answered-they were to be directed to communications-and I would lose my job if I didn't. I ALWAYS had a choice whether to comply or not. If I didn't comply, I would lose my job.

This is much bigger, I understand, and I emotionally believe the gag order is appropriate. I believe tweets by official agencies should STFU. I also believe that public employees PRIVATELY tweeting and facefucking certain tihgs,are grounds for dismissal. A public teacher would be fired for posting certain things that are detrimental to the overall system.

This is a transitional period, and policies haven't even been implemented. Pure hysteria based on conjecture.

The gag order is what is pissing her off a a journalism student, and I'd like to be able to follow up on why this is, I just can't find concrete proof.

We all know that words have consequences.

I find this to be very dangerous to all of us.
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We know...
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They can all whisper, but 80pct will back down when its time to take shots.

Balls are needed for action, nothing is needed for talk, not even brains.
 Quoting: Vandaluminatti


And what are they going to do when their Xanax, weed, and SSRI supplies are cut off?
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Good question....
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Trump needs a cockroach exterminator to clean out all the Obama parasites.
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Federal employees worried that President Donald Trump will gut their agencies are creating new email addresses, signing up for encrypted messaging apps and looking for other, protected ways to push back against the new administration’s agenda.

Whether inside the Environmental Protection Agency, within the Foreign Service, on the edges of the Labor Department or beyond, employees are using new technology as well as more old-fashioned approaches — such as private face-to-face meetings — to organize letters, talk strategy, or contact media outlets and other groups to express their dissent.


The goal is to get their message across while not violating any rules covering workplace communications, which can be monitored by the government and could potentially get them fired.

While many workers across the federal government are still in wait-and-see mode, the first two weeks of the Trump administration — with its flurry of executive orders that have in some cases upended lives — have sent a sobering message to others who believe they must act now.

[link to www.politico.com]
 Quoting: Joe Camel


Gee! what would they be trying hide??
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My taxes pay for these agencies right?

I want to see every thing they communicate.

If not, fire them all.
 Quoting: Some Guy in Indiana


clappa
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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Absolute bullshit.

Trump should use trusted assets at the NSA to
ferret out the traitors and fire their asses!

 Quoting: Joe Camel


Wait, you are AGAINST this? Fool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73736449
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These are OUR government employees.

More importantly, they work for Trump. Not themselves.

.
 Quoting: Joe Camel


They work for us (supposedly), not trump. Fuck trump. Are you still one of the wwe-type trumpanzees that populate this place?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73736449


Are you an unwiped arse libturd that still populates this place? Read Wikileaks and see what a fucktard you are.
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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LOVE IT!!! Great to see libertarians fighting back against corportist facist trumptards
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They have no place in public service

Nothing funny about it. These traitors should hang for this.
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My taxes pay for these agencies right?

I want to see every thing they communicate.

If not, fire them all.
 Quoting: Some Guy in Indiana


I totally agree
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NOW YOU KNOW WHY the Dims have obstructed confirming his cabinet picks.

Trump is forced to work with leftovers from the Ocommie administration.
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My taxes pay for these agencies right?

I want to see every thing they communicate.

If not, fire them all.
 Quoting: Some Guy in Indiana


hesright
SoOn!!
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Federal employees worried that President Donald Trump will gut their agencies are creating new email addresses, signing up for encrypted messaging apps and looking for other, protected ways to push back against the new administration’s agenda.

Whether inside the Environmental Protection Agency, within the Foreign Service, on the edges of the Labor Department or beyond, employees are using new technology as well as more old-fashioned approaches — such as private face-to-face meetings — to organize letters, talk strategy, or contact media outlets and other groups to express their dissent.


The goal is to get their message across while not violating any rules covering workplace communications, which can be monitored by the government and could potentially get them fired.

While many workers across the federal government are still in wait-and-see mode, the first two weeks of the Trump administration — with its flurry of executive orders that have in some cases upended lives — have sent a sobering message to others who believe they must act now.

[link to www.politico.com]
 Quoting: Joe Camel


Sounds a little like what Hillary Clinton was doing you know ???
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Federal employees worried that President Donald Trump will gut their agencies are creating new email addresses, signing up for encrypted messaging apps and looking for other, protected ways to push back against the new administration’s agenda.

Whether inside the Environmental Protection Agency, within the Foreign Service, on the edges of the Labor Department or beyond, employees are using new technology as well as more old-fashioned approaches — such as private face-to-face meetings — to organize letters, talk strategy, or contact media outlets and other groups to express their dissent.


The goal is to get their message across while not violating any rules covering workplace communications, which can be monitored by the government and could potentially get them fired.

While many workers across the federal government are still in wait-and-see mode, the first two weeks of the Trump administration — with its flurry of executive orders that have in some cases upended lives — have sent a sobering message to others who believe they must act now.

[link to www.politico.com]
 Quoting: Joe Camel


That's against federal law as all department emails concerning the business of the United States have to be preserved

Cool prosecute them
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My taxes pay for these agencies right?

I want to see every thing they communicate.

If not, fire them all.
 Quoting: Some Guy in Indiana




EXACTLY!!!!! These so-called "public servants" who are sneaking around seem to be preparing for War. Well, good and groovy, fire their asses and then they'll have all SORTS of time to get ready for their "war".

Oh, and they may as well practice kneeling on the ground with their butts up in the air like their dirty murdering muslim buddies. They'll be joining them soon. In hell, hopefully.
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Fire them. Government employees are to be non-political, political employees excepted.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

That cannot be more illegal. The FOIA requires open and accessible communications be archived for future access. That is in the same category violation as being in possession of child porn on your government machine. Since it's encrypted, it might be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72839304




Well, they have been emboldened because their queen, Hillary, seems to be getting away with basically the same thing. She needs to be made an example of. BRUTALLY.

Perhaps all of these traitors' homes should be visited about 3 in the morning to see how many have servers in THEIR bathrooms.
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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Absolute bullshit.

Trump should use trusted assets at the NSA to
ferret out the traitors and fire their asses!

:gtfo:
 Quoting: Joe Camel


EVERY liberal should be fired.
They have no affilation with Americans other than as the disposable and dispensable class.
Liberalism is the natural enemy of liberty and self determination.
The primary purpose of liberalism is TO TELL EVERYONE ELSE WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO SERVE LIBERALS.
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I look forward to the day in which we lose our First Amendment rights and scumbags like you are shot in the town square for speaking out. Before you jump down my #, know that you are already supporting a President who sees free speech as a "movement". So, let's all embrace it, shall we? Because the Constitution is just a piece of paper, right? GTFOH.
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Insubordination at best. Treason at worst. Law breaking for sure on multiple levels. Take them down.
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Definitely not what ANY company would call "best employee practices"!
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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The lefties are making fun of me saying that federal employees can't be fired.

Is this true?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58483529




To a certain extent, yes. The Federal and State government employees have very strong unions which generally prevail any time that there is another contract negotiation because they can threaten to send their union members on strike and shut down the government. alone

Once a new employee has survived their probationary period (it used to be 90 days, I don't know if it's still that length of time), they can do (or not do) just about anything short of murder and they can't/won't be fired because they will go to their union representative and file a grievance.

IMHO, the only way that these people could be gone would be if their actual jobs were eliminated entirely. Even then, "seniority" rules, so we would witness a bloody slaughter (hopefully figurative) as people with less seniority would be bumped out of their jobs, which would then cause THEM to bump people with even LESS seniority out of THEIR jobs, and we taxpayers would witness an orgiastic cascade of government unemployment.
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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Why do people think that encryption will stop any spying,

if they see you doing so they will look harder encrypted or not they will see.
do you not think they have teams looking for people/companys making encryption apps nothing is encrypted.
is everyone in this world tards...????
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congress needs to pass that law allowing a President to

fire whomever he wants..

 Quoting: jake




I think that he already has that power should he so choose to use it.

He has spoken of re-evaluating all of the regulations and eliminating a good number of them. Well, if regulations disappear, there will be less need for government workers, who mainly exist to make sure that regulations are obeyed.
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My taxes pay for these agencies right?

I want to see every thing they communicate.

If not, fire them all.
 Quoting: Some Guy in Indiana


Isn't that required for public offices?
If their actions are unlawful, they should be prosecuted and replaced.
 Quoting: B@Z


Yes..

no different than what that clinton bitch did.

they should face the same punishment.
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What, nothing?
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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Absolute bullshit.

Trump should use trusted assets at the NSA to
ferret out the traitors and fire their asses!

:gtfo:
 Quoting: Joe Camel


My first thought too!
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Donald Trump is the chief executive of the USA. The executive branch works for HIM, and the buck stops there. HE is responsible to the people of the USA and he has to account for his minions. He can't do that if they're doing other than commanded. This executive structure is the same as that of any company in the world, where the CEO takes the responsibility for everyone's actions, and those actions had better be in accordance with his directives.

Disloyal employees are fired. No difference here.





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