WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions | |
Drunkenkungfu User ID: 76605784 Australia 07/23/2018 05:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions Having your hands in the dirt can help with depression. Been told it a few times from people that use gardening. More so with hands in dirt then other aspects of gardening. There be something in da soil, loads of frass :P 11:11 |
SagoP User ID: 76453501 United States 07/23/2018 05:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions Antidepressant/antianxiety meds do not save lives. They fuck people up. For example: People on Xanax are 10x more likely to impulsively steal. 3x more likely to have sex on the first date. But but but. They save lives. Nevermind the HIV that's been spread due to the lack of impulse control due to these meds. Sounds like saved lives to me.. |
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Cuthbert Montagu-Ker (OP) User ID: 72099278 United Kingdom 07/23/2018 05:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions If your fucking depressed and cant get out of bed then sticking your hands in mud is the last thing on your mind. Last Edited by Cuthbert Montagu-Kersh on 07/23/2018 05:19 AM |
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Psychonaut SN7 User ID: 76355711 United States 07/23/2018 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions A single dose of Ketamine every month or two works better than any prescription antidepressants I've been put on. Ketamine therapy is a real treatment with multiple uses including depression. And it has facts & studies to back it up. I have to do it illegaly though since Ketamine infusion centers can cost up to $1,000. As soon as it takes effect within an hour your depression just magical fades away. It basically resets certain chemicals in the brain. The effect from a single dose last a month or longer. There multiple drugs that work better than any prescription antidepressant. Yet they have been made highly rescricted... "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish." ~ Terence McKenna |
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Cuthbert Montagu-Ker (OP) User ID: 72099278 United Kingdom 07/23/2018 06:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions A single dose of Ketamine every month or two works better than any prescription antidepressants I've been put on. Ketamine therapy is a real treatment with multiple uses including depression. And it has facts & studies to back it up. I have to do it illegaly though since Ketamine infusion centers can cost up to $1,000. As soon as it takes effect within an hour your depression just magical fades away. It basically resets certain chemicals in the brain. The effect from a single dose last a month or longer. There multiple drugs that work better than any prescription antidepressant. Yet they have been made highly rescricted... Quoting: Psychonaut SN7 Yeah. I have read about this. I took Paroxetine, saved my life. It was 20 years ago though. I think some of my pain pills have antidrepession stuff in them, Tramadol, Amitryptiline and Gabapentin. |
no_due_process_for_me User ID: 76756568 United States 07/23/2018 07:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions If your fucking depressed and cant get out of bed then sticking your hands in mud is the last thing on your mind. Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker LOL somehow they got up and out to hear psychobabble and bs on the latest drug to fix it. depression is for real ,mood altering drugs are for real and there should be alternatives OFFERED by these shrinks and basic health care practitioners. an authentic physical and work up most likely would pin point chemical imbalances as a cause and they could get relief simply by getting things balanced and in alignment and being motivated to getting outside,interacting w.others and live. patiently awaiting for TSHTF scenario |
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ElleMira User ID: 76494359 United States 07/23/2018 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions Having your hands in the dirt can help with depression. Been told it a few times from people that use gardening. More so with hands in dirt then other aspects of gardening. There be something in da soil, loads of frass :P Quoting: Drunkenkungfu Makes sense to me... Agreed. Big pharma have made billions off of people's depression. I'm not arguing against people who need it but I do think it's overprescribed and do believe more holistic approaches need to be looked into. If garden and cookery classes help to change people's lives and move them towards emotional well being, then I think that's fantastic! |
TlvmmCpoft User ID: 74527171 Italy 07/23/2018 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions Dayum. Your legal source of happy pills just got squashed. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
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BitofReason User ID: 72411239 United States 07/23/2018 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions It is a good thing they are looking to solve the problem where it starts. Most people I come into cokntact with have no purpose other than the job they hate. If you have no passion or hobbies, you get sick. Lets all take a minute to pull our head from our ass |
Cynical Realist Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 36850493 United Kingdom 07/23/2018 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions If your fucking depressed and cant get out of bed then sticking your hands in mud is the last thing on your mind. Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker Of course....then perhaps you do need meds if you cant "get out of bed".... Prescribing meds to ¬CURE¬ (It does not cure) depression is not how to do it... its only a masking sticky plaster.... You need to go under the bonnet to realy find out whats going on. Social anxiety is a big thing with depression and structured environments are a way of alleviating certain conditions... It gives confidence and self worth...something drugs dont do. IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
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The Patriot Mind User ID: 73236284 United States 07/23/2018 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions Cooking and gardening are excellent ways to gain self value and worth and are good for the soul Fighting and triggering liberals and SJW's in the trenches of their safe spaces since 2014 Signed, The Patriot Mind |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76409967 United States 07/23/2018 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions Nah.. I take painkillers for chronic pain and some painkillers are antidepressants. What kind of chronic pain, and long you been on them?? Lower & mid back pain and sciatica. Been about 15 years on painkillers I'm sorry, have you had any surgeries on it? |
buckets99 User ID: 72322921 United States 07/23/2018 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions I think it is a hint to grow your own dope, you need more than they are allowed to prescribe. Tolerance fucking sucks and none of these doctors want to go down for prescriptions leading to death or addiction. |
Cynical Realist Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 36850493 United Kingdom 07/23/2018 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions Nah.. I take painkillers for chronic pain and some painkillers are antidepressants. What kind of chronic pain, and long you been on them?? Lower & mid back pain and sciatica. Been about 15 years on painkillers Have you had a scan???? IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
The Patriot Mind User ID: 73236284 United States 07/23/2018 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions Nah.. I take painkillers for chronic pain and some painkillers are antidepressants. If your doctor has kept you in opioids for years as you say ... he has done a great disservice to your body mind and spirit... Find a new doctor ... check into rehab .. and break your bodies addiction ... nothing good can come from long term opioid use ... only despair depression and death Last Edited by The Patriot Mind on 07/23/2018 09:28 AM Fighting and triggering liberals and SJW's in the trenches of their safe spaces since 2014 Signed, The Patriot Mind |
buckets99 User ID: 72322921 United States 07/23/2018 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions It’s such a small small small actual percentage of people who really need to be on these drugs yet they are handed out like candy ... Quoting: The Patriot Mind Cooking and gardening are excellent ways to gain self value and worth and are good for the soul They have slowed down tremendously. all the old bitties are whining about their pill habits not being funded. |
Cuthbert Montagu-Ker (OP) User ID: 72099278 United Kingdom 07/23/2018 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions ... Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker Nah.. I take painkillers for chronic pain and some painkillers are antidepressants. What kind of chronic pain, and long you been on them?? Lower & mid back pain and sciatica. Been about 15 years on painkillers I'm sorry, have you had any surgeries on it? Yes had lower back surgery. Scar tissue made things worse with my discs and they are bulging again. |
Cuthbert Montagu-Ker (OP) User ID: 72099278 United Kingdom 07/23/2018 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions ... Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker Nah.. I take painkillers for chronic pain and some painkillers are antidepressants. What kind of chronic pain, and long you been on them?? Lower & mid back pain and sciatica. Been about 15 years on painkillers Have you had a scan???? I have had loads of MRI's over the years and surgery and made things worse. They call it failed back surgery syndrome. |
Cynical Realist Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 36850493 United Kingdom 07/23/2018 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions Have you had a scan???? I have had loads of MRI's over the years and surgery and made things worse. They call it failed back surgery syndrome. ok...... when was the last one....... If they are starting to bulge again it needs to be checked.....the problem is narrowing of the spinal canal. Is this all age related or even (have to be blunt here) weight related?? IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
beeches User ID: 74276477 United States 07/23/2018 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions Having your hands in the dirt can help with depression. Been told it a few times from people that use gardening. More so with hands in dirt then other aspects of gardening. There be something in da soil, loads of frass :P Quoting: Drunkenkungfu this is true! and the joy of seeing things grow Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76409967 United States 07/23/2018 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions I'm sorry, have you had any surgeries on it? Yes had lower back surgery. Scar tissue made things worse with my discs and they are bulging again. Yes, that scar tissue can be a problem, on my third surgery to finally replace 2 of my disks, they went in from the front because of all my scar tissue...I havent been on any pain medication other than healing from surgery, but that was my choice, if i wanted them it would have been easy for me to get with the back history. Sounds like you need disks replacement, I hope you are able to successfully get them. Your life will change for sure! |