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Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under Government crackdown to slash drug prescriptions

Doctors will be encouraged to prescribe depressed patients social activities like cookery or gardening instead of medication.

The Government's new Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, Matt Hancock, says he wants to reduce people's reliance on 'unsophisticated drugs'.


[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

WTF are these Gov Officials & Doctors on?

Antidepressants saves lives.

This has to be a joke right?

Really?

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Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions
Having your hands in the dirt can help with depression. Been told it a few times from people that use gardening. More so with hands in dirt then other aspects of gardening. There be something in da soil, loads of frass :P
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Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions
Antidepressant/antianxiety meds do not save lives. They fuck people up.

For example:

People on Xanax are 10x more likely to impulsively steal.


3x more likely to have sex on the first date.


But but but. They save lives.

Nevermind the HIV that's been spread due to the lack of impulse control due to these meds.

Sounds like saved lives to me..
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Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions
Grounding your energy into the dirt is a good way the release pent up 'zing' that can tend to send people over the edge.
Salt swims also work.
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Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions
If your fucking depressed and cant get out of bed then sticking your hands in mud is the last thing on your mind.

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Grounding your energy into the dirt is a good way the release pent up 'zing' that can tend to send people over the edge.
Salt swims also work.
 Quoting: Aaaarc


Sticking your dick in a pussy works pretty good too..
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Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions
A single dose of Ketamine every month or two works better than any prescription antidepressants I've been put on. Ketamine therapy is a real treatment with multiple uses including depression. And it has facts & studies to back it up. I have to do it illegaly though since Ketamine infusion centers can cost up to $1,000. As soon as it takes effect within an hour your depression just magical fades away. It basically resets certain chemicals in the brain. The effect from a single dose last a month or longer. There multiple drugs that work better than any prescription antidepressant. Yet they have been made highly rescricted...

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If your fucking depressed and cant get out of bed then sticking your hands in mud is the last thing on your mind.
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


There are all ways steps in every thing we do in life. One simply needs to find the first stepping stone for the chosen path.
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Take gardening classes ,then learn to grow pot ,smoke pot cure your depression. Just try to stay out of jail while doing it.
Banned often
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Take gardening classes ,then learn to grow pot ,smoke pot cure your depression. Just try to stay out of jail while doing it.
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Side effects of smoking pot like paranoia and psychosis wont help depression.
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Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions
A single dose of Ketamine every month or two works better than any prescription antidepressants I've been put on. Ketamine therapy is a real treatment with multiple uses including depression. And it has facts & studies to back it up. I have to do it illegaly though since Ketamine infusion centers can cost up to $1,000. As soon as it takes effect within an hour your depression just magical fades away. It basically resets certain chemicals in the brain. The effect from a single dose last a month or longer. There multiple drugs that work better than any prescription antidepressant. Yet they have been made highly rescricted...

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Yeah. I have read about this.

I took Paroxetine, saved my life. It was 20 years ago though.


I think some of my pain pills have antidrepession stuff in them, Tramadol, Amitryptiline and Gabapentin.
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If your fucking depressed and cant get out of bed then sticking your hands in mud is the last thing on your mind.
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


LOL somehow they got up and out to hear psychobabble and bs on the latest drug to fix it.
depression is for real ,mood altering drugs are for real
and there should be alternatives OFFERED by these shrinks and basic health care practitioners.
an authentic physical and work up most likely would pin point chemical imbalances as a cause and they could get relief simply by getting things balanced and in alignment
and being motivated to getting outside,interacting w.others and live.
patiently awaiting for TSHTF scenario
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Having your hands in the dirt can help with depression. Been told it a few times from people that use gardening. More so with hands in dirt then other aspects of gardening. There be something in da soil, loads of frass :P
 Quoting: Drunkenkungfu


Makes sense to me...german5
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Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions
Having your hands in the dirt can help with depression. Been told it a few times from people that use gardening. More so with hands in dirt then other aspects of gardening. There be something in da soil, loads of frass :P
 Quoting: Drunkenkungfu


Makes sense to me...german5
 Quoting: Judethz


Agreed.

Big pharma have made billions off of people's depression. I'm not arguing against people who need it but I do think it's overprescribed and do believe more holistic approaches need to be looked into. If garden and cookery classes help to change people's lives and move them towards emotional well being, then I think that's fantastic!
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Dayum. Your legal source of happy pills just got squashed.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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Dayum. Your legal source of happy pills just got squashed.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Nah..

I take painkillers for chronic pain and some painkillers are antidepressants.
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Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions
It is a good thing they are looking to solve the problem where it starts. Most people I come into cokntact with have no purpose other than the job they hate. If you have no passion or hobbies, you get sick.
Lets all take a minute to pull our head from our ass
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Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions
If your fucking depressed and cant get out of bed then sticking your hands in mud is the last thing on your mind.
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


Of course....then perhaps you do need meds if you cant "get out of bed".... Prescribing meds to ¬CURE¬ (It does not cure) depression is not how to do it... its only a masking sticky plaster.... You need to go under the bonnet to realy find out whats going on.

Social anxiety is a big thing with depression and structured environments are a way of alleviating certain conditions... It gives confidence and self worth...something drugs dont do.
IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP.
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Dayum. Your legal source of happy pills just got squashed.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Nah..

I take painkillers for chronic pain and some painkillers are antidepressants.
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


What kind of chronic pain, and long you been on them??
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Dayum. Your legal source of happy pills just got squashed.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Nah..

I take painkillers for chronic pain and some painkillers are antidepressants.
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


What kind of chronic pain, and long you been on them??
 Quoting: Jeremiah 29:11


Lower & mid back pain and sciatica.

Been about 15 years on painkillers
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Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions
It’s such a small small small actual percentage of people who really need to be on these drugs yet they are handed out like candy ...

Cooking and gardening are excellent ways to gain self value and worth and are good for the soul
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Dayum. Your legal source of happy pills just got squashed.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Nah..

I take painkillers for chronic pain and some painkillers are antidepressants.
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


What kind of chronic pain, and long you been on them??
 Quoting: Jeremiah 29:11


Lower & mid back pain and sciatica.

Been about 15 years on painkillers
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


I'm sorry, have you had any surgeries on it?
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Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions
I think it is a hint to grow your own dope, you need more than they are allowed to prescribe. Tolerance fucking sucks and none of these doctors want to go down for prescriptions leading to death or addiction.
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Re: WTF! Gardening and cookery classes to be prescribed to treat depression under crackdown to slash drug prescriptions
Dayum. Your legal source of happy pills just got squashed.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Nah..

I take painkillers for chronic pain and some painkillers are antidepressants.
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


What kind of chronic pain, and long you been on them??
 Quoting: Jeremiah 29:11


Lower & mid back pain and sciatica.

Been about 15 years on painkillers
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


Have you had a scan????
IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP.
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Dayum. Your legal source of happy pills just got squashed.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Nah..

I take painkillers for chronic pain and some painkillers are antidepressants.
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


If your doctor has kept you in opioids for years as you say ... he has done a great disservice to your body mind and spirit...

Find a new doctor ... check into rehab .. and break your bodies addiction ... nothing good can come from long term opioid use ... only despair depression and death

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It’s such a small small small actual percentage of people who really need to be on these drugs yet they are handed out like candy ...

Cooking and gardening are excellent ways to gain self value and worth and are good for the soul
 Quoting: The Patriot Mind


They have slowed down tremendously. all the old bitties are whining about their pill habits not being funded.
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Nah..

I take painkillers for chronic pain and some painkillers are antidepressants.
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


What kind of chronic pain, and long you been on them??
 Quoting: Jeremiah 29:11


Lower & mid back pain and sciatica.

Been about 15 years on painkillers
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


I'm sorry, have you had any surgeries on it?
 Quoting: Jeremiah 29:11


Yes had lower back surgery.

Scar tissue made things worse with my discs and they are bulging again.
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Nah..

I take painkillers for chronic pain and some painkillers are antidepressants.
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


What kind of chronic pain, and long you been on them??
 Quoting: Jeremiah 29:11


Lower & mid back pain and sciatica.

Been about 15 years on painkillers
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


Have you had a scan????
 Quoting: Cynical Realist


I have had loads of MRI's over the years and surgery and made things worse.

They call it failed back surgery syndrome.
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What kind of chronic pain, and long you been on them??
 Quoting: Jeremiah 29:11


Lower & mid back pain and sciatica.

Been about 15 years on painkillers
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


Have you had a scan????
 Quoting: Cynical Realist


I have had loads of MRI's over the years and surgery and made things worse.

They call it failed back surgery syndrome.
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


ok...... when was the last one....... If they are starting to bulge again it needs to be checked.....the problem is narrowing of the spinal canal. Is this all age related or even (have to be blunt here) weight related??
IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP.
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Having your hands in the dirt can help with depression. Been told it a few times from people that use gardening. More so with hands in dirt then other aspects of gardening. There be something in da soil, loads of frass :P
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this is true!



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What kind of chronic pain, and long you been on them??
 Quoting: Jeremiah 29:11


Lower & mid back pain and sciatica.

Been about 15 years on painkillers
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


I'm sorry, have you had any surgeries on it?
 Quoting: Jeremiah 29:11


Yes had lower back surgery.

Scar tissue made things worse with my discs and they are bulging again.
 Quoting: Cuthbert Montagu-Ker


Yes, that scar tissue can be a problem, on my third surgery to finally replace 2 of my disks, they went in from the front because of all my scar tissue...I havent been on any pain medication other than healing from surgery, but that was my choice, if i wanted them it would have been easy for me to get with the back history.

Sounds like you need disks replacement, I hope you are able to successfully get them. Your life will change for sure!





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