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If I had only two choices in a speciffic matter I would certianly choose the lesser of two evils.

For instance,


Many, if not all, I cross path with often counsel me not to speak Truth, namely, Obey the Ten Commandments of God Almighty, including His 7th Day Sabbath.

More than often I ponder why is this seen as such.

Some say there are wicked men and women who will do harm to Truth speakers,
I then reply and say, If so, I would rather face the wickedest man/woman in the flesh, than face the demons who control them, at death.

By the way they will definately not only face them, they will live with them eternaly.

So I speak!

I have always had problems with (wicked) authority.

Sorry for not posting in while.
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I've thought similar on several occations.

If humans are supposed to have freewill and experience/learn life from it, why do we have so many rules and chances to make mistakes. Obviously it's to weed good/bad. But....
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How can we learn if it's 'wrong' to make mistakes?



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No doubt.
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Good morning to you OP.

I have a question for you:
Your words here:

If so, I would rather face the wickedest man/woman in the flesh, than face the demons who control them, at death.
------------------------------------------------------------


It perplexes me greatly to see you over and over again making statements that are not founded in the bible. Tell me about those demons that will "control" people after death? Show me scripture that tells us all that these demons will control people after death, can you?

blessings to all
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Good morning to you OP.

I have a question for you:
Your words here:

If so, I would rather face the wickedest man/woman in the flesh, than face the demons who control them, at death.
------------------------------------------------------------


It perplexes me greatly to see you over and over again making statements that are not founded in the bible. Tell me about those demons that will "control" people after death? Show me scripture that tells us all that these demons will control people after death, can you?

blessings to all
 Quoting: Little Star

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LS,

Life, to say the least,is perplexing.

There is saying, give a man a fish and he will always be expecting to get, yet if you encourage him to learn to fish,he then will be able to not only feed himself, but others as well.

There is Glory in seeking matters out in the Holy Scriptures.
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How can we learn if it's 'wrong' to make mistakes?



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When will one learn that it is wrong to make mistakes?
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Good morning to you OP.

I have a question for you:
Your words here:

If so, I would rather face the wickedest man/woman in the flesh, than face the demons who control them, at death.
------------------------------------------------------------


It perplexes me greatly to see you over and over again making statements that are not founded in the bible. Tell me about those demons that will "control" people after death? Show me scripture that tells us all that these demons will control people after death, can you?

blessings to all

-------------
LS,

Life, to say the least,is perplexing.

There is saying, give a man a fish and he will always be expecting to get, yet if you encourage him to learn to fish,he then will be able to not only feed himself, but others as well.

There is Glory in seeking matters out in the Holy Scriptures.
 Quoting: not important 271537

Okay since you could not use scripture and you should to validate statements of truth as written in 2nd John verse 10, therefore I have to over look your words thatyou quoted.
But, to be absent from the body is to be present to the Lord.
Eccl. chapter 12:7, go read it my friend. EVer read in the book of Peter how Christ went to the gulf in heaven? There are no demons in the gulf, only those that did not partake of the super of the Lord. Are they doomed? No, because they will have full knowlege in the Mil. reign of Christ. Go read Eze. chapter 40 until the end. It is all about the mil. time of Christ.
Not until the end of the Mil. will there be any judgement given. And in that also, they will not be consumed by demons, they will be gone like a puff of smoke like from the fat of lamb. And if you know the bible well enough you should know where you can find what I just wrote.
You error in your words my friend. Each word that comes from you will be judged just like everyone else. If you teach falsely, then you need to read Jer. chapter 23:all and know that if you set yourself up as a teacher, preacher, pastor, and etc, you will be the first to be judged by God.
In your spiritual body, no demon can inter it. Sorry, your statements are statements of self understandings, not founded in the "Word".

I like you OP> you mean well, but this dispensation is only to awaken the "first fruits" all others will remain in a spiritual sleep or slumber. And you would be surprised how many Christians there are out in this world that are in that slumber. Sorry Christians, I am telling the truth.

Blessings to all
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Good morning to you OP.

I have a question for you:
Your words here:

If so, I would rather face the wickedest man/woman in the flesh, than face the demons who control them, at death.
------------------------------------------------------------


It perplexes me greatly to see you over and over again making statements that are not founded in the bible. Tell me about those demons that will "control" people after death? Show me scripture that tells us all that these demons will control people after death, can you?

blessings to all

-------------
LS,

Life, to say the least,is perplexing.

There is saying, give a man a fish and he will always be expecting to get, yet if you encourage him to learn to fish,he then will be able to not only feed himself, but others as well.

There is Glory in seeking matters out in the Holy Scriptures.
-------------------------
Okay since you could not use scripture and you should to validate statements of truth as written in 2nd John verse 10, therefore I have to over look your words thatyou quoted.
But, to be absent from the body is to be present to the Lord.
Eccl. chapter 12:7, go read it my friend. EVer read in the book of Peter how Christ went to the gulf in heaven? There are no demons in the gulf, only those that did not partake of the super of the Lord. Are they doomed? No, because they will have full knowlege in the Mil. reign of Christ. Go read Eze. chapter 40 until the end. It is all about the mil. time of Christ.
Not until the end of the Mil. will there be any judgement given. And in that also, they will not be consumed by demons, they will be gone like a puff of smoke like from the fat of lamb. And if you know the bible well enough you should know where you can find what I just wrote.
You error in your words my friend. Each word that comes from you will be judged just like everyone else. If you teach falsely, then you need to read Jer. chapter 23:all and know that if you set yourself up as a teacher, preacher, pastor, and etc, you will be the first to be judged by God.
In your spiritual body, no demon can inter it. Sorry, your statements are statements of self understandings, not founded in the "Word".

I like you OP> you mean well, but this dispensation is only to awaken the "first fruits" all others will remain in a spiritual sleep or slumber. And you would be surprised how many Christians there are out in this world that are in that slumber. Sorry Christians, I am telling the truth.

Blessings to all
 Quoting: Little Star

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There is Glory in seeking matters out in the Holy Scriptures.



Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
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Good morning to you OP.

I have a question for you:
Your words here:

If so, I would rather face the wickedest man/woman in the flesh, than face the demons who control them, at death.
------------------------------------------------------------


It perplexes me greatly to see you over and over again making statements that are not founded in the bible. Tell me about those demons that will "control" people after death? Show me scripture that tells us all that these demons will control people after death, can you?

blessings to all

-------------
LS,

Life, to say the least,is perplexing.

There is saying, give a man a fish and he will always be expecting to get, yet if you encourage him to learn to fish,he then will be able to not only feed himself, but others as well.

There is Glory in seeking matters out in the Holy Scriptures.
-------------------------
Okay since you could not use scripture and you should to validate statements of truth as written in 2nd John verse 10, therefore I have to over look your words thatyou quoted.
But, to be absent from the body is to be present to the Lord.
Eccl. chapter 12:7, go read it my friend. EVer read in the book of Peter how Christ went to the gulf in heaven? There are no demons in the gulf, only those that did not partake of the super of the Lord. Are they doomed? No, because they will have full knowlege in the Mil. reign of Christ. Go read Eze. chapter 40 until the end. It is all about the mil. time of Christ.
Not until the end of the Mil. will there be any judgement given. And in that also, they will not be consumed by demons, they will be gone like a puff of smoke like from the fat of lamb. And if you know the bible well enough you should know where you can find what I just wrote.
You error in your words my friend. Each word that comes from you will be judged just like everyone else. If you teach falsely, then you need to read Jer. chapter 23:all and know that if you set yourself up as a teacher, preacher, pastor, and etc, you will be the first to be judged by God.
In your spiritual body, no demon can inter it. Sorry, your statements are statements of self understandings, not founded in the "Word".

I like you OP> you mean well, but this dispensation is only to awaken the "first fruits" all others will remain in a spiritual sleep or slumber. And you would be surprised how many Christians there are out in this world that are in that slumber. Sorry Christians, I am telling the truth.

Blessings to all

------------------

There is Glory in seeking matters out in the Holy Scriptures.



Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
 Quoting: not important 271537



So, I guess you think Mat. 25:41 declares that demons will inter into the spiritual body after death?
Sorry my friend, if you know scripture you should know that the devil and those angels that were bad will perish also in a puff of smoke. How do I know this?
Psalms 37 is all about what happens to those that perish.
Pay attention to Pslams 37:20. See that puff of smoke there?

Rev. 21:4" And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."

How can God wipe away tears if you have a relative that has perished? If you love your family and one of them is gone forever how can you not cry forever?
God will wipe the memory of them from your mind, just like He wiped the memory of you being in heaven with all of the rest of us! Do you remember the time when we sang as Stars mentioned in Job 38:7? No you don't, but you have referance there in that verse.
So, no demon can inter into a spiritual body of someone who pass's on. Sorry, not my truths, but the truths of the Word.

blessings to all
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Good morning to you OP.

I have a question for you:
Your words here:

If so, I would rather face the wickedest man/woman in the flesh, than face the demons who control them, at death.
------------------------------------------------------------


It perplexes me greatly to see you over and over again making statements that are not founded in the bible. Tell me about those demons that will "control" people after death? Show me scripture that tells us all that these demons will control people after death, can you?

blessings to all

-------------
LS,

Life, to say the least,is perplexing.

There is saying, give a man a fish and he will always be expecting to get, yet if you encourage him to learn to fish,he then will be able to not only feed himself, but others as well.

There is Glory in seeking matters out in the Holy Scriptures.
-------------------------
Okay since you could not use scripture and you should to validate statements of truth as written in 2nd John verse 10, therefore I have to over look your words thatyou quoted.
But, to be absent from the body is to be present to the Lord.
Eccl. chapter 12:7, go read it my friend. EVer read in the book of Peter how Christ went to the gulf in heaven? There are no demons in the gulf, only those that did not partake of the super of the Lord. Are they doomed? No, because they will have full knowlege in the Mil. reign of Christ. Go read Eze. chapter 40 until the end. It is all about the mil. time of Christ.
Not until the end of the Mil. will there be any judgement given. And in that also, they will not be consumed by demons, they will be gone like a puff of smoke like from the fat of lamb. And if you know the bible well enough you should know where you can find what I just wrote.
You error in your words my friend. Each word that comes from you will be judged just like everyone else. If you teach falsely, then you need to read Jer. chapter 23:all and know that if you set yourself up as a teacher, preacher, pastor, and etc, you will be the first to be judged by God.
In your spiritual body, no demon can inter it. Sorry, your statements are statements of self understandings, not founded in the "Word".

I like you OP> you mean well, but this dispensation is only to awaken the "first fruits" all others will remain in a spiritual sleep or slumber. And you would be surprised how many Christians there are out in this world that are in that slumber. Sorry Christians, I am telling the truth.

Blessings to all

------------------

There is Glory in seeking matters out in the Holy Scriptures.



Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


--------------------------
So, I guess you think Mat. 25:41 declares that demons will inter into the spiritual body after death?
Sorry my friend, if you know scripture you should know that the devil and those angels that were bad will perish also in a puff of smoke. How do I know this?
Psalms 37 is all about what happens to those that perish.
Pay attention to Pslams 37:20. See that puff of smoke there?

Rev. 21:4" And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."

How can God wipe away tears if you have a relative that has perished? If you love your family and one of them is gone forever how can you not cry forever?
God will wipe the memory of them from your mind, just like He wiped the memory of you being in heaven with all of the rest of us! Do you remember the time when we sang as Stars mentioned in Job 38:7? No you don't, but you have referance there in that verse.
So, no demon can inter into a spiritual body of someone who pass's on. Sorry, not my truths, but the truths of the Word.

blessings to all
 Quoting: Little Star

======================

Soooo then,

What, may I ask, is your take on the above Scripture which I cited?
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If I had only two choices in a speciffic matter I would certianly choose the lesser of two evils.

For instance,


Many, if not all, I cross path with often counsel me not to speak Truth, namely, Obey the Ten Commandments of God Almighty, including His 7th Day Sabbath.

More than often I ponder why is this seen as such.

Some say there are wicked men and women who will do harm to Truth speakers,
I then reply and say, If so, I would rather face the wickedest man/woman in the flesh, than face the demons who control them, at death.

By the way they will definately not only face them, they will live with them eternaly.

So I speak!

I have always had problems with (wicked) authority.

Sorry for not posting in while.
 Quoting: not important 271537



I think you should drop the "not" part of your handle, it's a lie. I know you didn't ask for my opinion, I've just wanted to write that to you for some time so here it is.

You are beloved as you know and "very" important would be much more fitting, as is your call.



I have always thought that we are much stronger in the spiritual than we are in the flesh;


No matter the manifestation, we are more than conquerors through Christ Jesus.

And when we are weak, He is strong!


Building up the Temple
Building up the Temple
Building up the Temple of the Lord
Say sister, won't you help me
Brother, won't you help me
Building up the Temple of the Lord
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Good morning to you OP.

I have a question for you:
Your words here:

If so, I would rather face the wickedest man/woman in the flesh, than face the demons who control them, at death.
------------------------------------------------------------


It perplexes me greatly to see you over and over again making statements that are not founded in the bible. Tell me about those demons that will "control" people after death? Show me scripture that tells us all that these demons will control people after death, can you?

blessings to all

-------------
LS,

Life, to say the least,is perplexing.

There is saying, give a man a fish and he will always be expecting to get, yet if you encourage him to learn to fish,he then will be able to not only feed himself, but others as well.

There is Glory in seeking matters out in the Holy Scriptures.
-------------------------
Okay since you could not use scripture and you should to validate statements of truth as written in 2nd John verse 10, therefore I have to over look your words thatyou quoted.
But, to be absent from the body is to be present to the Lord.
Eccl. chapter 12:7, go read it my friend. EVer read in the book of Peter how Christ went to the gulf in heaven? There are no demons in the gulf, only those that did not partake of the super of the Lord. Are they doomed? No, because they will have full knowlege in the Mil. reign of Christ. Go read Eze. chapter 40 until the end. It is all about the mil. time of Christ.
Not until the end of the Mil. will there be any judgement given. And in that also, they will not be consumed by demons, they will be gone like a puff of smoke like from the fat of lamb. And if you know the bible well enough you should know where you can find what I just wrote.
You error in your words my friend. Each word that comes from you will be judged just like everyone else. If you teach falsely, then you need to read Jer. chapter 23:all and know that if you set yourself up as a teacher, preacher, pastor, and etc, you will be the first to be judged by God.
In your spiritual body, no demon can inter it. Sorry, your statements are statements of self understandings, not founded in the "Word".

I like you OP> you mean well, but this dispensation is only to awaken the "first fruits" all others will remain in a spiritual sleep or slumber. And you would be surprised how many Christians there are out in this world that are in that slumber. Sorry Christians, I am telling the truth.

Blessings to all

------------------

There is Glory in seeking matters out in the Holy Scriptures.



Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


--------------------------
So, I guess you think Mat. 25:41 declares that demons will inter into the spiritual body after death?
Sorry my friend, if you know scripture you should know that the devil and those angels that were bad will perish also in a puff of smoke. How do I know this?
Psalms 37 is all about what happens to those that perish.
Pay attention to Pslams 37:20. See that puff of smoke there?

Rev. 21:4" And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."

How can God wipe away tears if you have a relative that has perished? If you love your family and one of them is gone forever how can you not cry forever?
God will wipe the memory of them from your mind, just like He wiped the memory of you being in heaven with all of the rest of us! Do you remember the time when we sang as Stars mentioned in Job 38:7? No you don't, but you have referance there in that verse.
So, no demon can inter into a spiritual body of someone who pass's on. Sorry, not my truths, but the truths of the Word.

blessings to all

======================

Soooo then,

What, may I ask, is your take on the above Scripture which I cited?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 271537


What is the object and subject of what Christ is teaching there? See, if you take one verse out of context, it fails to stand.
I apply the two witness's teachings of Christ and as Paul taught us to do in 2 Corinthians 13:1. If you follow that method of understandings, you will never miss the mark on understanding scriptures.
So to answer your question of" What, may I ask, is your take on the above Scripture which I cited?", I reply is this:
The object and subject that Christ is talking about is taking care of others. REad verse 38.
All Christ is telling you in verse 41 is how all those that shall perish will end up like what is going to happen to Satan and the bad angels which are spoken of in Jude 6. If you do not love one and another what part of heaven do you think you would go to?
Fear not those that can kill the flesh, but fear He who can kill not only your flesh body, but your spiritual body. Your spiritual body can perish, gone forever.
Now listen to this. Ever sleep at night and not have a dream? What happened around you while you sleep? You have no knowledge at all when you are not dreaming. So, that eternal spiritual death is just like that in comparison.
Sorry for putting you on the spot.
blessings to all
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If I had only two choices in a speciffic matter I would certianly choose the lesser of two evils.

For instance,


Many, if not all, I cross path with often counsel me not to speak Truth, namely, Obey the Ten Commandments of God Almighty, including His 7th Day Sabbath.

More than often I ponder why is this seen as such.

Some say there are wicked men and women who will do harm to Truth speakers,
I then reply and say, If so, I would rather face the wickedest man/woman in the flesh, than face the demons who control them, at death.

By the way they will definately not only face them, they will live with them eternaly.

So I speak!

I have always had problems with (wicked) authority.

Sorry for not posting in while.



I think you should drop the "not" part of your handle, it's a lie. I know you didn't ask for my opinion, I've just wanted to write that to you for some time so here it is.

You are beloved as you know and "very" important would be much more fitting, as is your call.



I have always thought that we are much stronger in the spiritual than we are in the flesh;


No matter the manifestation, we are more than conquerors through Christ Jesus.

And when we are weak, He is strong!


Building up the Temple
Building up the Temple
Building up the Temple of the Lord
Say sister, won't you help me
Brother, won't you help me
Building up the Temple of the Lord
 Quoting: wonbyOne

--------------------------

I love you...Truly I do.

Most Importantly The God and Father of All loves you.
I can state this with confidence because,

God is Love so all of His Children is or soon will be Love,
and Love recognizes It's Own.

Spend all of your time Glorifying God.
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If I had only two choices in a speciffic matter I would certianly choose the lesser of two evils.

For instance,


Many, if not all, I cross path with often counsel me not to speak Truth, namely, Obey the Ten Commandments of God Almighty, including His 7th Day Sabbath.

More than often I ponder why is this seen as such.

Some say there are wicked men and women who will do harm to Truth speakers,
I then reply and say, If so, I would rather face the wickedest man/woman in the flesh, than face the demons who control them, at death.

By the way they will definately not only face them, they will live with them eternaly.

So I speak!

I have always had problems with (wicked) authority.

Sorry for not posting in while.



I think you should drop the "not" part of your handle, it's a lie. I know you didn't ask for my opinion, I've just wanted to write that to you for some time so here it is.

You are beloved as you know and "very" important would be much more fitting, as is your call.



I have always thought that we are much stronger in the spiritual than we are in the flesh;


No matter the manifestation, we are more than conquerors through Christ Jesus.

And when we are weak, He is strong!


Building up the Temple
Building up the Temple
Building up the Temple of the Lord
Say sister, won't you help me
Brother, won't you help me
Building up the Temple of the Lord
 Quoting: wonbyOne

--------------------------

I love you...Truly I do.

Most Importantly The God and Father of All loves you.
I can state this with confidence because,

God is Love so all of His Children is or soon will be Love,
and Love recognizes It's Own.

Spend all of your time Glorifying God.
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Good morning to you OP.

I have a question for you:
Your words here:

If so, I would rather face the wickedest man/woman in the flesh, than face the demons who control them, at death.
------------------------------------------------------------


It perplexes me greatly to see you over and over again making statements that are not founded in the bible. Tell me about those demons that will "control" people after death? Show me scripture that tells us all that these demons will control people after death, can you?

blessings to all

-------------
LS,

Life, to say the least,is perplexing.

There is saying, give a man a fish and he will always be expecting to get, yet if you encourage him to learn to fish,he then will be able to not only feed himself, but others as well.

There is Glory in seeking matters out in the Holy Scriptures.
-------------------------
Okay since you could not use scripture and you should to validate statements of truth as written in 2nd John verse 10, therefore I have to over look your words thatyou quoted.
But, to be absent from the body is to be present to the Lord.
Eccl. chapter 12:7, go read it my friend. EVer read in the book of Peter how Christ went to the gulf in heaven? There are no demons in the gulf, only those that did not partake of the super of the Lord. Are they doomed? No, because they will have full knowlege in the Mil. reign of Christ. Go read Eze. chapter 40 until the end. It is all about the mil. time of Christ.
Not until the end of the Mil. will there be any judgement given. And in that also, they will not be consumed by demons, they will be gone like a puff of smoke like from the fat of lamb. And if you know the bible well enough you should know where you can find what I just wrote.
You error in your words my friend. Each word that comes from you will be judged just like everyone else. If you teach falsely, then you need to read Jer. chapter 23:all and know that if you set yourself up as a teacher, preacher, pastor, and etc, you will be the first to be judged by God.
In your spiritual body, no demon can inter it. Sorry, your statements are statements of self understandings, not founded in the "Word".

I like you OP> you mean well, but this dispensation is only to awaken the "first fruits" all others will remain in a spiritual sleep or slumber. And you would be surprised how many Christians there are out in this world that are in that slumber. Sorry Christians, I am telling the truth.

Blessings to all

------------------

There is Glory in seeking matters out in the Holy Scriptures.



Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


--------------------------
So, I guess you think Mat. 25:41 declares that demons will inter into the spiritual body after death?
Sorry my friend, if you know scripture you should know that the devil and those angels that were bad will perish also in a puff of smoke. How do I know this?
Psalms 37 is all about what happens to those that perish.
Pay attention to Pslams 37:20. See that puff of smoke there?

Rev. 21:4" And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."

How can God wipe away tears if you have a relative that has perished? If you love your family and one of them is gone forever how can you not cry forever?
God will wipe the memory of them from your mind, just like He wiped the memory of you being in heaven with all of the rest of us! Do you remember the time when we sang as Stars mentioned in Job 38:7? No you don't, but you have referance there in that verse.
So, no demon can inter into a spiritual body of someone who pass's on. Sorry, not my truths, but the truths of the Word.

blessings to all

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Soooo then,

What, may I ask, is your take on the above Scripture which I cited?


What is the object and subject of what Christ is teaching there? See, if you take one verse out of context, it fails to stand.
I apply the two witness's teachings of Christ and as Paul taught us to do in 2 Corinthians 13:1. If you follow that method of understandings, you will never miss the mark on understanding scriptures.
So to answer your question of" What, may I ask, is your take on the above Scripture which I cited?", I reply is this:
The object and subject that Christ is talking about is taking care of others. REad verse 38.
All Christ is telling you in verse 41 is how all those that shall perish will end up like what is going to happen to Satan and the bad angels which are spoken of in Jude 6. If you do not love one and another what part of heaven do you think you would go to?
Fear not those that can kill the flesh, but fear He who can kill not only your flesh body, but your spiritual body. Your spiritual body can perish, gone forever.
Now listen to this. Ever sleep at night and not have a dream? What happened around you while you sleep? You have no knowledge at all when you are not dreaming. So, that eternal spiritual death is just like that in comparison.
Sorry for putting you on the spot.
blessings to all
 Quoting: Little Star

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If possible, in as few words as possible, would you show just how you've put me on the spot?
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Good morning to you OP.

I have a question for you:
Your words here:

If so, I would rather face the wickedest man/woman in the flesh, than face the demons who control them, at death.
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It perplexes me greatly to see you over and over again making statements that are not founded in the bible. Tell me about those demons that will "control" people after death? Show me scripture that tells us all that these demons will control people after death, can you?

blessings to all

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LS,

Life, to say the least,is perplexing.

There is saying, give a man a fish and he will always be expecting to get, yet if you encourage him to learn to fish,he then will be able to not only feed himself, but others as well.

There is Glory in seeking matters out in the Holy Scriptures.
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Okay since you could not use scripture and you should to validate statements of truth as written in 2nd John verse 10, therefore I have to over look your words thatyou quoted.
But, to be absent from the body is to be present to the Lord.
Eccl. chapter 12:7, go read it my friend. EVer read in the book of Peter how Christ went to the gulf in heaven? There are no demons in the gulf, only those that did not partake of the super of the Lord. Are they doomed? No, because they will have full knowlege in the Mil. reign of Christ. Go read Eze. chapter 40 until the end. It is all about the mil. time of Christ.
Not until the end of the Mil. will there be any judgement given. And in that also, they will not be consumed by demons, they will be gone like a puff of smoke like from the fat of lamb. And if you know the bible well enough you should know where you can find what I just wrote.
You error in your words my friend. Each word that comes from you will be judged just like everyone else. If you teach falsely, then you need to read Jer. chapter 23:all and know that if you set yourself up as a teacher, preacher, pastor, and etc, you will be the first to be judged by God.
In your spiritual body, no demon can inter it. Sorry, your statements are statements of self understandings, not founded in the "Word".

I like you OP> you mean well, but this dispensation is only to awaken the "first fruits" all others will remain in a spiritual sleep or slumber. And you would be surprised how many Christians there are out in this world that are in that slumber. Sorry Christians, I am telling the truth.

Blessings to all

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There is Glory in seeking matters out in the Holy Scriptures.



Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

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So, I guess you think Mat. 25:41 declares that demons will inter into the spiritual body after death?
Sorry my friend, if you know scripture you should know that the devil and those angels that were bad will perish also in a puff of smoke. How do I know this?
Psalms 37 is all about what happens to those that perish.
Pay attention to Pslams 37:20. See that puff of smoke there?

Rev. 21:4" And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."

How can God wipe away tears if you have a relative that has perished? If you love your family and one of them is gone forever how can you not cry forever?
God will wipe the memory of them from your mind, just like He wiped the memory of you being in heaven with all of the rest of us! Do you remember the time when we sang as Stars mentioned in Job 38:7? No you don't, but you have referance there in that verse.
So, no demon can inter into a spiritual body of someone who pass's on. Sorry, not my truths, but the truths of the Word.

blessings to all
 Quoting: Little Star

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Not have a clue do you?





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