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*** TIME DON'T EXIST. NEVER HAS, NEVER WILL ***

 
infinitethoughts  (OP)

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For not believing in time, you sure do use a lot of words that connote a measurement of time! LoL!

But yes, I am with you on the idea that on the grander scale beyond simple human life, TIME does not exist. Just a Now of which our perception changes.
 Quoting: ViperThunder


It's the Professors fault, he started it.

LOL......
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But yes, I am with you on the idea that on the grander scale beyond simple human life, TIME does not exist. Just a Now of which our perception changes.
 Quoting: ViperThunder


Further. We're moving into an evolution where this "grander scale" will start becoming common knowledge.

In other words, there is no separation between this "grander state" and normal human life.

This NOW, where we are creating everything.....exists, Now.
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It is imbecilic (retarded) to use past and future tenses to expound on an idea which denies the existence of a past or a future.

Grammatically, "Time doesn't exist." would be correct, not a contraction of "Time do not exist".

Time as a concept to describe the passage of events and the intervals that transpire between them obviously exists. It would be difficult to practically impossible to do many things or create the mathematics of science as we now know it without time.

Practically all natural processes are formulated in the form of an expression with respect to time. A change in something with respect to the passing of time. dx/dt, in physics the first and second derivatives describe processes with respect to time d=vt, v=dx/dt, a=dv/dt, etc...

This argument again.

Time is a measurement of motion. We agree on that.

The mistake we have made is mistaking the motion as something
fundamental.

I don't discount the idea that change is measured against something.

What is that something?

More motion- the motion of gears in a clock or atomic vibration.

It's entirely arbitrary and self-referential.

When we stop thinking of time as an absolute and stop pretending as if it has a fixed, precise quality about it we'll find the structure of the universe is far looser and more pliant than we normally conceive of it.

If we insist on focusing on minutes, seconds and fractions of seconds we will create a tight, escape-proof mental prison where there is no space for our own thoughts..


At first I would suggest to not use "WE" statement so frequently.

You are trying to put everyone into category that you have imagined.

In my view time is a measure of events that are coherent with you current wavefunction.
 Quoting: timex

It doesn't take everyone. Reality is a consensus. You and I might imagine time differently that the consensus but once you or I try to act on that conception . . . well, that's where the frustration comes in.

The use of "we" is also a literary device, not meant to be taken literally ;)
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but once you or I try to act on that conception . . . well, that's where the frustration comes in.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380553


And thats why I'm here, in all my "Humble" Arrogance-ness.
LOL......

Try this.
Go deep into what everyone thinks of as Linear Time.
Figure out exactly what the definition is.

What this does is, it "snaps" you out of it, so to speak.
It makes you Aware of the absurdity of this particular definition.

Then make the effort to insert the new definition >>> That NOW is literally all there is, and you're creating your past and future from it.
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bump
infinitethoughts  (OP)

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Is anyone here moving faster than the speed of light?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 432043


Yeah, me Bud.

You wanna know why?
Cause my thought is 1 trillion times faster then light.
infinitethoughts  (OP)

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Opps.
Forgot to log in when I bumped this thread.

A thousand Apologies.
Really....
infinitethoughts  (OP)

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Hell, I think it's about "time" to bump this puppy...lol.
infinitethoughts  (OP)

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Opps. I forgot the bump.

bump

There, that should do it.
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OP everyone will awake....in time...
5a
infinitethoughts  (OP)

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OP everyone will awake....in time...
5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14971515


What are you a master of zen koans ?

I like it.
:-)
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All time exists simultaneously. Physicality does not allow bi-location, but our minds do. Time and space are real, only in that they permit the material to manifest. It is in the degree of perception, or consciousness that permits us to experience the unfolding of life in a linear fashion, or not.

peace


Infinity and Your Greatest Potential
by Owen Waters
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The universe is a giant doughnut!

In physics, they call it a torus. Physicists speculate that the universe is torroidal-shaped. However, being a great fan of simplicity, I prefer the more 'sugar-coated' term, doughnut.

Moving beyond physics and into metaphysics, which is where all the fun stuff happens, the doughnut-shaped universe is really nothing more than a projection within the consciousness of its Creator. Beyond the outer walls of that doughnut-shaped universe there is no space. Beyond the universe, there is only the consciousness that created space and everything else that makes up our universe.

Space is no more than a concept in consciousness. It isn't really "out there." Everything made from consciousness is "in here," within you. Space is a projection within consciousness, manufactured for a specific effect. It is one of the dimensions in which we operate in the adventure called life.

While everything is, in reality, just plain "here and now," not really "out there and back then," the manufacture of a map of projected consciousness created the different locations within this map of consciousness that we see as space.
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Space is not infinite
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The universe is made entirely of consciousness. The physical universe - the big doughnut - is held within infinite consciousness and is therefore, by definition, less than infinite.

When we were young, we were taught at school that space must be infinite because, if you were able to reach the outer limits of space, what could possibly lie beyond? If more space lies beyond what you thought was the limit of space, then space must be infinite. . . or so they said.

The problem was, no-one could imagine infinite space. It just seemed so counter-intuitive. The idea that infinite space would really exist just didn't sit right with anyone, but we all nodded our heads, thinking that grown-ups knew best.

In reality, physical space is finite, not infinite. It is a projection in consciousness contained within the Infinite Being which created it.
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Time is not what it seems
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Likewise, linear time is also finite. The term 'linear time' means clock-like time, and refers to the single timeline of past, present, future to which our brains are entrained.

The "time" before the universe was created was not time. It was pure consciousness - Infinite Being - from which time was created as yet another concept.

Both space and time are held in manifestation within the consciousness of Infinite Being. Nothing can exist outside of that awareness, for it is All-That-Is.

Everything, including the concepts of space and time, are created within its consciousness. Therefore physical space ends somewhere. It ends at the limit of the created universe. Beyond that perimeter at the edge of space lies Creator-consciousness.

Different points in time are merely different viewpoints in consciousness. Time appears to pass by in a linear fashion, but only because our brains are wired for, and entrained to, the illusion of the linear passage of time.

Most people on Earth have not considered that they can switch their focus to other locations in time and space at will. The energy required to instantly relocate a physical human body to another location in space-time might be prohibitive, but your mind can do it very easily. Remote viewing practitioners routinely visit other space-time locations under controlled conditions in order to gain information.

With brains that are entrained by the concept of linear time, we think of ourselves as being stuck in one location in space and in one position on our timeline. In reality, Infinite Being exists in the all-encompassing Here and Now and we are facets of Infinite Being. Therefore, all locations and all times can be reached just by transferring one's focus to a different place in time and space.

As people develop their consciousness and their creativity in the dawning New Reality, these concepts will be explored more and more deeply.
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Your purpose in life
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Everyone comes into life with a purpose, a plan to explore certain attributes of themselves and the society of that era. However, beneath this immediate purpose lies an even deeper, long-term purpose.

You are the "eyes and ears" of Infinite Being, experiencing life from your own unique viewpoint. Your deepest reason for existence is actually the same as everyone else's. It is to develop your own unique character and potential to the fullest extent so that you can gain experience in life from your unique viewpoint.

The two conclusions that can be reached from these thoughts are:

1. All information that you need from anywhere in the universe is yours for the asking. If you want information from another location in time and space, just get into a good meditative state and pluck it right out of the ethers.

2. Express your full potential. No-one else can do it for you, and no-one can tell you that you should do it differently. It's your life. You're in charge of it. Inside of you is all potential. Become all that you already are in potential.
 Quoting: Nrg 892


Very good messages in that. And if you read it closely and really THINK about these messages you will start to see why it is really bad to shun people and discredit them, especially their thoughts and ideas, just because they don't agree with yours. Others like to call them CRAZY or some other invented label, so that they can be removed from being productive in a society, and have their viewpoints further discredited. It is quite a predicament, and there may not be need for that paradigm any longer.
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It is quite a predicament, and there may not be need for that paradigm any longer.
 Quoting: AkashicRecord


Right. And further, that newtonian-paradigm is going bye bye.
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No one ever asks... what is this universe inside of ?





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