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Cheney and Air Force Generals Implicated in Nuke Theft

 
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Excerpt of Part II of story at waynemadsenreport.com

Part II of a two-part series

Between August 24 and September 6, 2007, the U.S. Air Force's nuclear chain-of-command was severely compromised by a rival chain established out of Vice President Dick Cheney's office and extending through the offices of the Air Force Secretary and Chief of Staff, the Air Force's Cyber-Warfare element, and into the strategic bombing commands located at Minot and Barksdale Air Force Bases. In the weeks before and after this time period, there is ample evidence to suggest that the security of nuclear weapons, particularly at Minot, was placed in severe jeopardy by the rival chain-of-command.

On August 24, 2007, three B-52s operating from Barksdale flew a training exercise called REX REDUX, officially billed as a commemoration of a 1938 B-17 flight directed at the Italian luxury liner SS Rex. The exercise, personally ordered by Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Michael Moseley, was actually testing an Israeli-developed imaging and targeting pod called LITENING II on a U.S. Navy contracted merchant vessel, the USNS Bobo, in the Atlantic east of Bermuda and several targets of opportunity along the planes' flight paths through the southern United States.

REX REDUX also involved assets of the Air Force's embryonic Cyber Command in Washington and Barksdale.

Four days later, on August 30, a Barksdale-based B-52 flew six nuclear warhead tipped AGM-129 advanced cruise missiles from Minot to Barksdale. The incident was later called a "mistake" by Air Force officials. However, three high-ranking Air Force officers leaked the incident to the Air Force Times.

Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne, a key member of the rival chain-of-command, rewarded his loyalists in Barksdale by announcing the base had been selected as the preliminary headquarters for the Air Force Cyber Command. Wynne made his announcement at a Shreveport gambling casino. Wynne, according to a CNN report, advocated the testing of nonlethal weapons, like high-power microwave weapons, against American citizens. Wynne said, "If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation."

Minot Air Force Base may also get a piece of the cyber-warfare pie. Attempts by this editor to interest North Dakota Democratic Senator Byron Dorgan in the August 30 nuclear incident were unsuccessful. Dorgan is obviously angling, along with Democratic Senator Kent Conrad, to get a chunk of the cyber-war command pie for Minot.

Far from being a mistake, the procurement of the nuclear missiles from Minot was tied to a rival chain-of-command operation that would occur on September 6, when the Israeli Air Force struck a purported Syrian nuclear facility in eastern Syria, near the town of Dayr az Zawr.

On April 24, 2008, as news broke of an FBI investigation into a long-time Israeli intelligence ring that penetrated the U.S. military and intelligence communities, CIA director, Air Force General Michael Hayden, revealed further "intelligence" on the Syrian facility, said to be a joint North Korean-Syrian reactor modeled after the Yongbyon facility in North Korea. However, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and American weapons experts cast doubt on the veracity of the CIA's intelligence, including a dubious videotape said to have originated with Israeli intelligence sources. Hayden, it appears, is part of the rival Air Force chain-of-command, taking orders directly from Cheney, to prepare and incite a U.S. military conflict with Syria and Iran.

The FBI investigation of the Israeli spy ring, which included convicted US Navy spy Jonathan Pollard; accused Army spy Ben-Ami Kadish; and possibly others who served in high positions in the George W. Bush administration is also reportedly looking at key members of the rival Air Force chain-of-command.

It is noteworthy that Air Force Cyber-Warfare guru Dr. Lani Kass, who had recently been an Israeli Air Force Major, first came to the United States as a defense contractor in 1981, the halcyon period of the Israeli spy ring inside the Pentagon and Reagan administration. Reagan National Security Council Middle East expert Douglas Feith was fired from his job after he was suspected of passing classified information to an Israeli embassy contact. Feith was re-hired at the Pentagon by his old friend Richard Perle. Kass now serves as the Air Force's chief cyber-warfare guru and she also specializes in information operations deception. Along with Air Force General Lawrence Stuztriem, Kass is involved in Operation Checkmate, operational planning for a U.S. military attack on Iran.

Two days after the Israeli spy story involving Kadish broke, the Pentagon-chartered cargo ship, SS Westward Venture, fired machine guns at approaching Iranian patrol vessels.

After the Minot nuclear incident, the Air Force's Air Combat Command at Langley Air Force Base, Virginia ordered a stand down of all fighters and bombers in the Air Force. Although the order was issued on September 7, the day after the Israeli strike on the "Al Kibar" site in Syria, the stand down did not occur until September 14.

Gates ordered an outside review of the Minot incident conducted by retired former Air Force Chief of Staff General Larry Welch. Welch was hardly an impartial judge, having been part of Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's favorite program, the Ballistic Missile Defense System or "Star Wars II." Welch led a Blue Ribbon panel that heaped praise on the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization, then led by Air Force General Ronald Kadish.

The Welch Report failed to discover the breakdown in Air Force nuclear command-and-control and the existence of the rival chain. An indication of the worthlessness of the Welch Report was the discovery that in August 2006, four Minuteman nose cone nuclear fuse assemblies were "mistakenly" shipped from Hill Air Force Base in Utah to Taiwan. The fuses had originally been shipped to Hill from F. E. Warren Air Force Base, Wyoming in March 2005. Gates reacted to the incident by ordering an unprecedented inventory of all nuclear weapons and nuclear material in the U.S. arsenal.

On April 21, 2008, Gates, speaking to young Air Force officers at the Air War College at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama, criticized the Air Force for refusing his orders to get more involved in wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Gates' criticisms stunned the audience and reverberated throughout the Air Force. Here was a Secretary of Defense indicating that a subordinate service was insubordinate. Gates was likely hinting at the existence of the rival nuclear chain-of-command directed from Cheney's office.

The rival nuclear chain-of-command that was responsible for the Minot nuclear incident, REX REDUX, and associated events is as follows:

Vice President Dick Cheney

-- Chief of Staff David Addington

Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne

Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Michael Moseley

-- Gen. Lawrence Stuztriem, Chief of Staff of the Air Force Strategic Studies Group - CHECKMATE

-- Dr. Lani Kass, ex-Israeli Air Force, Cyber Warfare, US Air Force, CHECKMATE

Lt. Gen. Robert Elder, Commander 8th Air Force, Barksdale Air Force Base

Col. Bruce Emig, Commander 5th Bomb Wing, Minot Air Force Base (relieved of command after nuclear incident)

Maj. Gen. Stephen Goldfein, Commander Air Warfare Center, Nellis Air Force Base

Goldfein's role in the chain-of-command has been exposed as a result of a Department of Defense Inspector General audit that discovered that Goldfein and Moseley helped steer a $50 million public relations contract for the Air Force's elite Thunderbirds flying team to Strategic Message Solutions (SMS), a firm that had been established to bid on the Thunderbirds Air Show Production Services, or TAPS. On September 2, 2007, as the impact of the Minot nuclear incident was still being felt in Minot and around the Air Force, a scheduled Thunderbirds air show to help celebrate "Northern Neighbors Day" was proclaimed to be still on schedule for September 8. A week after the worst nuclear security command-and-control debacle in the nation's history, Minot Air Force Base opened its gates for the public to come on to the base and watch the Thunderbirds perform. There was even a traffic jam of civilian cars, including some from nearby Canada, waiting to drive on to the base.

Meanwhile, lower and mid- ranking Air Force nuclear security personnel were being stripped of their personnel reliability program clearances for access to nuclear weapons on the base. The contrast could not have been more stark. It was clear that carrying on with the scheduled Thunderbirds show at Minot was part of a public relations spin being directed from Moseley and his staff.

more at waynemadsenreport.com
(no I don't work for waynemadsenreport.com)
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Since MOST of us are not paying customers to that website, why don't you post the rest of the article?
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When you consider that we cannot control nor guaranty the security of our own nukes due to foreign agents in government and a 'rival command' then what the hell are we doing trying to control other countries? The ONLY way those nukes could have moved was with orders from up top- Bush/Cheney yet it was the men on the front lines who were punished EXACTLY like the Abu Ghraib/torture fiasco that these guys ordered then masterbated while watching the videos. Seven airmen also died 'mysteriously' within 2 weeks of this 'accident'. There is more than enough evidence to try and convict these criminal leaders yet they get to remain in power. As we are told constantly about spying on Americans 'why worry if you have nothing to hide?' why do these 'leaders' not only hide everything they do but retroactively classify anything they are afraid of? It can only be ONE THING- they are guilty as hell. And CONgress is complicit for helping to cover up these atrocities for fear of losing their power/positions.
Finally the fake 'terror wars' that are simply cold war redux to continue the massive flow of tax dollars into the mil-industrial complex must be exposed for what they are-fear and intimidation tactics. 'Terrorism' used to be directed against governments and their leaders. Now it is directed at the populations as a means of control. After all how many politicians have died since the start of the fake 'terror wars'? Additionally border security has NOT been improved but left open. Just about every 'terrorist' arrest has been proven to be utterly totally false and staged for political purposes. The cons in CONgress have made over 140 million in war based stocks for themselves, Cheney's 'Halliburton' was selling nuke parts to Iran as late as 2005, Israel is buying IRANIAN oil via Europe- like that 'washes it' yet they want us to put up a blockade.
Cheney is also up to his eyeballs in the USA CORP bankruptcy and BASEL 2 bank standards initiation and the disposition of quite literally TRILLIONS of dollars which were 'off book' and everyone is desperately fighting for his/her piece of the pie while ignoring the current financial nightmare that threatens total collapse. NO MEDIA is reporting on this which should be front page news.
I dream of a military coup in which allof CONgress, Pres and VP are arrested, indicted and tried as the evidence will allow- alos including any/all appointed criminals and dual nationals within government for treason/espoinage and elections held with accurate verifiable counts publicly done so there can be NO DOUBT. When the pentagram can lose 2.7 trillion dollars and conveniently experience a 'new pearl harbor' that allow massive amounts of money to pour in which they still cannot to this day account for (latest is 15 Billion and something like 975 failure in contract adherence) then it is time to string up the criminals in a very public way. I am quite surprised that Karl Rove can walk the streets without being killed. One can only hope and pray.
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essentially tptb are counting on american
short memory/ attention span.
unfortunatly, any missing weapon will be used here
in another false flag attack.
so a constant reminder is a good thing.
if any thing were to happen we know who's really responsible.
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OP, when I go to Madsen's site, I don't see this (not even a title as a teaser to join the site). Where did you get it?
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BTW, this gives me faith in my abilities to reson because this exactly how I figured it went down - a rival chain of command.
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not everyone knows this yet. spread it to your families and friends who have the capability to comprehend something of this magnitude.
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OP, where are you? Is this subscriber info that was emailed to you? I want to see the rest of it!
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bump for truth

google Lt Col Bob Bowman talks with military
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well finally someone can point a finger.... if we had no nukes this would not be a problem...

USA wins..

China: 100-200 warheads.
France: Approximately 350 strategic warheads.
Russia: 4,237 strategic warheads[1], approximately 2,000-3,000 operational tactical warheads, and approximately 8,000-10,000 stockpiled strategic and tactical warheads.
United Kingdom: Less than 160 deployed strategic warheads.
United States: 5,914 strategic warheads[1], approximately 1,000 operational tactical weapons, and approximately 3,000 reserve strategic and tactical warheads.


and that is the offical propaganda numbers....

Add 3000 to USA warheads..............
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Oh oh. Someone could get shot in the face over this!
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Oh oh. Someone could get shot in the face over this!
 Quoting: Hunting Partner 429261


It is believed that a few low-ranking service personel were offed in this operation. 1 was a gaurd and another was a pilot if I remember correctly... also there was some dispute as to whether there were 5 or 6 nukes temporarily misplaced. Can anyone refresh my memory about these 2 items?
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TREASON
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Now this is a thread that should be pinned.
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Now this is a thread that should be pinned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 440306

bump
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Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates asked for an "outside investigation", appointing "former" Air Force chief of staff Larry D. Welch, who just happens to be on the board of directors of one of the biggest globalist organizations, the Henry L. Stimson Center. How convenient!

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Start sharpening the gulliotine.
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Ah CRAP! Not THAT fucking pig asshole again!



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TREASON
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Remember, USS Liberty, Gulf of Tonkin this has been shaping up for a long time
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Yes, as through this world I've wandered
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Some will rob you with a six-gun,
And some with a fountain pen.

And as through your life you travel,
Yes, as through your life you roam,
You won't never see an outlaw
Drive a family from their home.
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C'mon, Wayne Madsen?!

Isn't his credibility completely shot by now?
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This missing nuke and then the people concerned, close to the situation dying all unexpected like...

Got Dirty written all over it.

Lynch the bastards!

Just haul them out into the street and let the mob deal with Cheney and his goons.

How much more are you Americans going to put up with? The US gov't is building prisons for God's sake...
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This is the worst case of mentally ill people getting their chance to totally distroy the entire world. I would take my entire family to another safer country if it was possible.

Living this way is shocking beyond belief. Where are the SANE PEOPLE who are suppose to watch these people? This is the reason that when dangerous people come to power they always turn the eyes of the intelligence forces to watch innocent citizens, while they lay waste entire cultures.

This leaves a scar so big on our nation that it demands we get all the top psychiatrist, we can ,to look these demons over before they destroy all of us. How sick can people be who would do such things? I am scared for all of our lives after hearing this could happen. Please someone grab these crazy bastards up before they lay waste to mankind.
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Mussolini screwed his own people around!
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And CONgress is complicit for helping to cover up these atrocities for fear of losing their power/positions.
Finally the fake 'terror wars' that are simply cold war redux to continue the massive flow of tax dollars into the mil-industrial complex must be exposed for what they are-fear and intimidation tactics.
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C'mon, Wayne Madsen?!

Isn't his credibility completely shot by now?
 Quoting: Guns n' God

No. But yours is.





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