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UE User ID: 286811 United States 06/11/2008 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Better off stocking up on SlimFast products! Quoting: Sireen-rebornActually good idea - and other liguid nutritional supplements like Boost. If water is not an issue - the powder weight GAIN products will be useful. To store water - every time you empty a bleach bottle, fill it to the top with water 1x and dump it. Fill it again and cap it. Mark it WATER. Good for almost ever! Want a never ending supply of empty bleach bottles? Go to your local laundry mat. |
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Coward User ID: 66457 United States 06/11/2008 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TOO MUCH MSG Quoting: Anonymous Coward 413608this will mess up your ability to think as an individual Do you really believe that? Or are you so weak minded that you will blame it on anything? Msg isn't good for you, but its not some kind of fucking LSD |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 413608 United States 06/11/2008 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TOO MUCH MSG Quoting: Coward 66457this will mess up your ability to think as an individual Do you really believe that? Or are you so weak minded that you will blame it on anything? Msg isn't good for you, but its not some kind of fucking LSD if you knew me that would be that last thing you would say about me blame your anger on yourself i dont play that game |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 434204 United States 06/11/2008 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO it has 0 nutritional value. You may feel full but you're still starving. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 415304Absolutely true. It will actually take away nutrients already in your body just to digest the crap. You would be better off just having water and a toothpick. Here is a decent article, but it slanted against eating wheat for health reasons. It does explain however, the problem with eating less than nutritious food. I would consider ramen one of those. "A large proportion of essential vitamins and minerals are removed from the food in the refining process, which creates white flour and sugar. Furthermore, vitamins and minerals are leached from your body’s stores upon consumption of carbohydrates such as white flour and sugar as they are required for their metabolism. Chromium, zinc and folic acid are the main nutrients lost. Gluten clogs the intestinal wall, reducing its ability to absorb nutrients." [link to www.estherkivi.com] |
Duncan Kunz User ID: 23141 United States 06/11/2008 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ramen is even worse the Kraft Mac and cheese when it comes to health (bad) and nutritional value (practically none). If you want carbs, I'd suggest rice; it'll keep a lot longer, has more nutritional value per volume, and, assuming you have enough water, is a great staple. I personally prefer whole-grain rice mix, but it does take longer to cook, which means you'd have to increase you energy (charcoal) stockpile. But for a pretty good meal, I'd just take two cups of water, two bullion cubes, a teaspoon of olive oil, heat it to boiling (which ensures that the giardia or most other bugs aren't going to get you), put in a cup of plain white rice, low-boil for 25-30 minutes and you have a hell of a lot more healthy meal that you would from ramen. And all of that stuff: rice, olive oil, bullion -- has an incredible shelf life and you'll be able to rotate it, since most people eat that stuff all the time anyway. Not only that, but you can mix a lot of cooked vegetables with the rice to provide even more nutrition. Add some legumes (dried beans, which also have a great shelf life) to the mix and you have the protein as well. If you want meat which is already cooked and has a great shelf life, you'll undoubtedly be getting all the sodium you'd need and then some; I wouldn't add more just for the ramen. Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 434204 United States 06/11/2008 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ramen is even worse the Kraft Mac and cheese when it comes to health (bad) and nutritional value (practically none). Quoting: Duncan KunzIf you want carbs, I'd suggest rice; it'll keep a lot longer, has more nutritional value per volume, and, assuming you have enough water, is a great staple. I personally prefer whole-grain rice mix, but it does take longer to cook, which means you'd have to increase you energy (charcoal) stockpile. But for a pretty good meal, I'd just take two cups of water, two bullion cubes, a teaspoon of olive oil, heat it to boiling (which ensures that the giardia or most other bugs aren't going to get you), put in a cup of plain white rice, low-boil for 25-30 minutes and you have a hell of a lot more healthy meal that you would from ramen. And all of that stuff: rice, olive oil, bullion -- has an incredible shelf life and you'll be able to rotate it, since most people eat that stuff all the time anyway. Not only that, but you can mix a lot of cooked vegetables with the rice to provide even more nutrition. Add some legumes (dried beans, which also have a great shelf life) to the mix and you have the protein as well. If you want meat which is already cooked and has a great shelf life, you'll undoubtedly be getting all the sodium you'd need and then some; I wouldn't add more just for the ramen. I would also like to add that for beans and rice that would take a lot more energy to cook, the op might want to think about a thermal cooker. [link to www.google.com] Basically, you heat up everything to boiling (or cook about 1/3 of the time required) and then put it into the insulated tub and let it keep cooking for 4-6 hrs (without using fuel). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 140105 India 06/11/2008 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's so cheap! I could store a years worth of food for a fraction of the cost it would take other foods. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 449980Why doesn't everyone just store 10 cases of ramen as a safety net? I've been trying to tell people this. In a survival situation the issue is light weight and high calorie-density, not nutrition. For nutrition take a vitamin pill, but for light weight calorie density nothing beats ramen noodles. They do NOT have to be rehydrated, lots of people snack on them dry. The only thing is read the label, only buy the one with no msg in the noodle itself, and discard the msg packets. i recommend 'Emergen-C' vitamin packets too |
Duncan Kunz User ID: 10104 United States 06/11/2008 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would also like to add that for beans and rice that would take a lot more energy to cook, the op might want to think about a thermal cooker. [link to www.google.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 434204Basically, you heat up everything to boiling (or cook about 1/3 of the time required) and then put it into the insulated tub and let it keep cooking for 4-6 hrs (without using fuel). Excellent point. However, I have been using a somewhat similar system for a lot of cooking recently (not that I have to, it's just more fun to do so), and that is dutch oven cookware. Since the dutch oven is cast iron, it has a tremendous "thermal mass coefficient"; best of all, you can adjust the heat (just by the number and location of the charcoal briquettes) quite accurately. The downside, of course, is that you can never NEVER NEVER cook indoors, or else you will die, because charcoal produces a lot of CO in addition to heat. I have three Lodge DOs and I think that four 25-pound bags of Kingsford charcoal will provide enough energy to cook food for a family of four for two or three months. And, of course, charcoal has a pretty good shelf life, too, as long as you don't let it get rained on or anything like that. The Dutch Oven is the Official Cookware of the State of Utah. CTR! [link to secure.lodgemfg.com (secure)] [link to secure.lodgemfg.com (secure)] [link to papadutch.home.comcast.net] Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 140105 India 06/11/2008 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rice and beans waste drinking water and fuel both, and take hours to soak and cook, and anyone storing them as a survival choice for a scenario where water and fuel will be scarce is a complete dumbass. I would also like to add that for beans and rice that would take a lot more energy to cook, the op might want to think about a thermal cooker. [link to www.google.com] Quoting: Duncan KunzBasically, you heat up everything to boiling (or cook about 1/3 of the time required) and then put it into the insulated tub and let it keep cooking for 4-6 hrs (without using fuel). Excellent point. However, I have been using a somewhat similar system for a lot of cooking recently (not that I have to, it's just more fun to do so), and that is dutch oven cookware. Since the dutch oven is cast iron, it has a tremendous "thermal mass coefficient"; best of all, you can adjust the heat (just by the number and location of the charcoal briquettes) quite accurately. The downside, of course, is that you can never NEVER NEVER cook indoors, or else you will die, because charcoal produces a lot of CO in addition to heat. I have three Lodge DOs and I think that four 25-pound bags of Kingsford charcoal will provide enough energy to cook food for a family of four for two or three months. And, of course, charcoal has a pretty good shelf life, too, as long as you don't let it get rained on or anything like that. The Dutch Oven is the Official Cookware of the State of Utah. CTR! [link to secure.lodgemfg.com (secure)] [link to secure.lodgemfg.com (secure)] [link to papadutch.home.comcast.net] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 433480 United States 06/11/2008 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When tshtf.... Quoting: Udon Soba 3175401 pack of ramen = 1 oz of silver... I got pallets of the stuff... One pallet of Ramen at cost = less than a hundred bucks. But fuck buying anything - when tshtf I'll likely crash a truck through the fence and throw up one of the loading doors of the Walmart Grocery Distribution center I used to do inventory at. Pallets of water will be like gold. |