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To non Christians and atheists... Why should I believe that Jesus Christ is God?

 
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To non Christians and atheists... Why should I believe that Jesus Christ is God?
What are some reasons for?
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Seems like a strange group to be asking. That’s like asking people that don’t believe there’s a Bigfoot why you should believe in Bigfoot.
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Unless you want to spend eternity in hell, I would say this is a pretty good reason. You cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven without accepting Jesus as your lord and savior. If you are truly interested, if you seek the truth by reading The Bible, studying under a Christian Pastor (Bible Study Sessions - not mass) you will find it.

I was an atheist and started attending Bible Study sessions at the urging of a good friend and I was shown undeniable signs once I started studying. I have zero doubt Jesus is Lord. I went from being a full fledged atheist thinking Christians were weak and pathetic to knowing Jesus and Christianity is 100% truth.
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Dont' waste you time asking people. If you want to know ask truly ask god yourself and see.
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Also, two other things to keep in mind:

1. 13 men followed Jesus knowing they were giving up their lives destined to die horrible deaths and live awful lives (suffering to spread the word). Still, they all went to their graves following and believing Jesus with no doubt. They left their families, careers, etc and never quit or gave up.

2. Jesus is the only living man who is so well known and followed to this day. Many politicians, actors and other men have come and gone never to be followed or worshiped at the same level as Jesus. Jesus is the only man in human history to be so loved, remembered, worshiped and followed to this day. Obviously, he must have done some amazing things while on Earth for this to happen.
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Seems like a strange group to be asking. That’s like asking people that don’t believe there’s a Bigfoot why you should believe in Bigfoot.
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Also, two other things to keep in mind:

1. 13 men followed Jesus knowing they were giving up their lives destined to die horrible deaths and live awful lives (suffering to spread the word). Still, they all went to their graves following and believing Jesus with no doubt. They left their families, careers, etc and never quit or gave up.

2. Jesus is the only living man who is so well known and followed to this day. Many politicians, actors and other men have come and gone never to be followed or worshiped at the same level as Jesus. Jesus is the only man in human history to be so loved, remembered, worshiped and followed to this day. Obviously, he must have done some amazing things while on Earth for this to happen.
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"The fanatic is always concealing a secret doubt." John le Carre
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Re: To non Christians and atheists... Why should I believe that Jesus Christ is God?
your focus determines your reality

thinking about God brings spirit world into your reality and new horizons open up

new age / pagan / aliens is an adventure

monotheistic is rules

etc

something id love to talk to someone in RL about if they care but cant be bothered to type online about cus theres to much toxic
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Re: To non Christians and atheists... Why should I believe that Jesus Christ is God?
For starters the name "Iesous" is Greek. The true translation is "Son of God"

The bibles get more wrong than they get right.

On the interwebs is says that "Iesous" is derived from Hebrew "Yeshua". This is an inverted perversion.

How can the original Greek word be derived from Hebrew when Hebrew was derived from Greek? They turned the Greek alphabet upside down and based Hebrew off Greek. There are Jewish professors in Israel who have written papers and testified that this is the case.
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Suggest you read about the life of CS Lewis, and read his book “ Mere Christianity”

Lewis as a young man rejected Christianity for atheism, then as his life and philosophical writings progressed, became an advocate of Christianity. His reasoning is laid out in the book.
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Re: To non Christians and atheists... Why should I believe that Jesus Christ is God?
Alexander the Great was also known as the "Son of God"
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How can the original Greek word be derived from Hebrew when Hebrew was derived from Greek?
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You win the prize for the most stupid comment made in the last 24 hours.

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How can the original Greek word be derived from Hebrew when Hebrew was derived from Greek?
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You win the prize for the most stupid comment made in the last 24 hours.

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Thank you, it's an honour afro

In a beast system where 99% of public information is deception, truth is usually greeted with hatred.

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Re: To non Christians and atheists... Why should I believe that Jesus Christ is God?
Because He either is or He isn't. There is no grey on that question.

And if He Is, He is the way to eternal life and heaven.

And if He is, and you don't believe, then you will/there is at least the chance, that you go the other direction, for eternity.

I think that even the chance that there is an eternal hell, and that I might go there is reason enough to be sure to answer for yourself this most fundamental question of life.

I once heard an amazing guy on TV, I think it is Stan Telchin, as outlined in his book Betrayed, anyway his daughter went off to college and came home at the holidays, converted to Christianity, and he was going to save his baby from this false religion, he was a man on fire.

So he researched like six questions, and this is what I wish I could remember exactly but it went like this:

Was there an actual person Jesus of Nazareth, in other words was He an historical fact. The answer to that was yes He was.

Was there a prophecy that someone would be the Messiah? Of course, yes, that was his belief/study.

What were the attributes of who was to be the Messiah? There is the whole list...born of a virgin, of the house of David, etc.

Did this historical Jesus meet all the criteria of the prophecized Messiah. Yes.

Has anyone else come close to meeting the criteria? No.

So if all that is true, what am I going to do with that information?

He converted himself and became a Messianic Christian.
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What are some reasons for?
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Re: To non Christians and atheists... Why should I believe that Jesus Christ is God?
What are some reasons for?
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There are other religions to choose from..
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Re: To non Christians and atheists... Why should I believe that Jesus Christ is God?
Because He either is or He isn't. There is no grey on that question.

And if He Is, He is the way to eternal life and heaven.

And if He is, and you don't believe, then you will/there is at least the chance, that you go the other direction, for eternity.

I think that even the chance that there is an eternal hell, and that I might go there is reason enough to be sure to answer for yourself this most fundamental question of life.

I once heard an amazing guy on TV, I think it is Stan Telchin, as outlined in his book Betrayed, anyway his daughter went off to college and came home at the holidays, converted to Christianity, and he was going to save his baby from this false religion, he was a man on fire.

So he researched like six questions, and this is what I wish I could remember exactly but it went like this:

Was there an actual person Jesus of Nazareth, in other words was He an historical fact. The answer to that was yes He was.

Was there a prophecy that someone would be the Messiah? Of course, yes, that was his belief/study.

What were the attributes of who was to be the Messiah? There is the whole list...born of a virgin, of the house of David, etc.

Did this historical Jesus meet all the criteria of the prophecized Messiah. Yes.

Has anyone else come close to meeting the criteria? No.

So if all that is true, what am I going to do with that information?

He converted himself and became a Messianic Christian.
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Similar to the Minimal Facts approach.

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How can the original Greek word be derived from Hebrew when Hebrew was derived from Greek?
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You win the prize for the most stupid comment made in the last 24 hours.

wtfdid
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Thank you, it's an honour afro

In a beast system where 99% of public information is deception, truth is usually greeted with hatred.

hf
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Where did you find information leading you to believe that Hebrew was derived from Greek? I never heard of such a thing.

Here's an interesting link charting out the different languages spoken and where they derived from:

[link to www.angmohdan.com (secure)]
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How can the original Greek word be derived from Hebrew when Hebrew was derived from Greek?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward Cyprus

You win the prize for the most stupid comment made in the last 24 hours.

wtfdid
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Thank you, it's an honour afro

In a beast system where 99% of public information is deception, truth is usually greeted with hatred.

hf
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Where did you find information leading you to believe that Hebrew was derived from Greek? I never heard of such a thing.

Here's an interesting link charting out the different languages spoken and where they derived from:

[link to www.angmohdan.com (secure)]
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I can give you 1 example now. There are others but the information isn't exactly spead freely. History, DNA, races, it's mostly bullshit with some truth.

Jewish linguist and researcher professor at the University of Tel Aviv, Joseph Yahuda, following research spanning 30 years in his book "Hebrew is Greek ", testifies that 90% of Hebrew and Arabic words are Greek.
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You win the prize for the most stupid comment made in the last 24 hours.

wtfdid
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Thank you, it's an honour afro

In a beast system where 99% of public information is deception, truth is usually greeted with hatred.

hf
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Where did you find information leading you to believe that Hebrew was derived from Greek? I never heard of such a thing.

Here's an interesting link charting out the different languages spoken and where they derived from:

[link to www.angmohdan.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86757203


I can give you 1 example now. There are others but the information isn't exactly spead freely. History, DNA, races, it's mostly bullshit with some truth.

Jewish linguist and researcher professor at the University of Tel Aviv, Joseph Yahuda, following research spanning 30 years in his book "Hebrew is Greek ", testifies that 90% of Hebrew and Arabic words are Greek.
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I wonder how far back these linguists were able to go. I've been following a hewbrew scholar from line of hebrew scholars that says what we have as hebrew today is nothing like the original, ancient hebrew.
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So you will be a stupid ass that still believes that ancient middle eastern bull shit.
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Thank you, it's an honour afro

In a beast system where 99% of public information is deception, truth is usually greeted with hatred.

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward Cyprus


Where did you find information leading you to believe that Hebrew was derived from Greek? I never heard of such a thing.

Here's an interesting link charting out the different languages spoken and where they derived from:

[link to www.angmohdan.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86757203


I can give you 1 example now. There are others but the information isn't exactly spead freely. History, DNA, races, it's mostly bullshit with some truth.

Jewish linguist and researcher professor at the University of Tel Aviv, Joseph Yahuda, following research spanning 30 years in his book "Hebrew is Greek ", testifies that 90% of Hebrew and Arabic words are Greek.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward Cyprus


I wonder how far back these linguists were able to go. I've been following a hewbrew scholar from line of hebrew scholars that says what we have as hebrew today is nothing like the original, ancient hebrew.
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That would be true. Same goes for ancient Greek, of which there are at least 2 versions. The last version I saw on inscriptions at the sanctuary of Asklepios in Greece looked very much like modern English. It was all written in capital letters and there were no spaces between the words. It is said that this version could be read from both left to right and right to left. It was an ancient stone tablet written by Asklepios himself with a list of ailments/diseases with his recommended treatments/cures.
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Where did you find information leading you to believe that Hebrew was derived from Greek? I never heard of such a thing.

Here's an interesting link charting out the different languages spoken and where they derived from:

[link to www.angmohdan.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86757203


I can give you 1 example now. There are others but the information isn't exactly spead freely. History, DNA, races, it's mostly bullshit with some truth.

Jewish linguist and researcher professor at the University of Tel Aviv, Joseph Yahuda, following research spanning 30 years in his book "Hebrew is Greek ", testifies that 90% of Hebrew and Arabic words are Greek.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward Cyprus


I wonder how far back these linguists were able to go. I've been following a hewbrew scholar from line of hebrew scholars that says what we have as hebrew today is nothing like the original, ancient hebrew.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77920042


That would be true. Same goes for ancient Greek, of which there are at least 2 versions. The last version I saw on inscriptions at the sanctuary of Asklepios in Greece looked very much like modern English. It was all written in capital letters and there were no spaces between the words. It is said that this version could be read from both left to right and right to left. It was an ancient stone tablet written by Asklepios himself with a list of ailments/diseases with his recommended treatments/cures.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward Cyprus


At this stage of the game, we'll never know the truth. Especially with all the "mandela" effects occurring.

I've heard it said that the English language is actually Enocian (black magick) backwards.
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What are some reasons for?
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I know the ppl on glp are trigger happy but that was low my friend.

I can't help but laugh by the audacity lol
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"the word "Greek" has nothing to do with the place where someone lives, it has nothing to do with the state of which he is a citizen. The words "Greek" and "man" are concepts equal to the word "god", and they are above the concepts that are accepted nowadays as denotative of the race, the nation, the people, ultimately the state. Our approach is purely etymological. Nothing else.

The word "Greek" is composed of El and lin. Where El is the (god) Sun, the giver of life, the giver of light. The ending of the word "helios" means that this heavenly body that gives life to the earth, derives its light from El or Il, that is, God. The Sun was not God, he was the one who drew or received light from God and, in turn, he gave it to the earth.

El or Il, as: Ilia, i.e. the land of the Sun. It is no coincidence that El ymbia or Olympia is located in Ilia. Like Olympus, it is no accident that it is located in Greece.

And lin, is an infinitive of the verb lao, which means to see. El - lin means "the one who (can and) sees the Sun", i.e. the one who (can and) sees the god or "the one who lives according to the qualities of the Sun", i.e. the god, is the pious. A Greek is one who lives according to the laws (and powers) of Light and a Hellenic is one who descends from the ancestors, who live according to the laws of Light or is the inhabitant of this (Heavenly) Light.

This, because: El (el) ios is the one who comes from the Light, from the primordial Light, from the First Power, the one that created everything.

El lin and El las. Where las is the stone (hence the quarry) so El-las means "the stone of the gods" or "the throne of the gods" or Hellas is "the earthly place that is the abode of the gods", not only that, Hellas can be and "the material body in which the Light dwells", that is, Hellas can be the body where the soul dwells, where the (incarnate) god dwells, the soul that draws its origin from El (Hell) ios, is " the man with a soul" in contrast to that body which is not the abode of the Light, i.e. the soul. This is what Hermes Trismegistus says: "Man is a mortal god and god is an immortal man."

According to them, Greeks are those who (pronounce) the Greek Language and not those who speak, but those who feel the Greek language, those who can decode it and penetrate into the depths of the invisible. Greeks, in the end, are NOT those who live in Greece, but those who (wherever they are, in whatever part of the earth they live) speak the Greek Word, that is, they live based on the laws of the Sun, the laws of Light, the laws of god.

In summary, the word "Greek" means "one who (can and) sees God". That is, the one whose high vibrational frequency is the same as that of Light, thus allowing him to "see" the corresponding frequency, in which the gods become visible. Greek is the spiritually evolved entity and certainly not the citizen of a state, which is completely arbitrarily and abusively called "Greece". Foreigners are right to call it Greece or Ionia. The citizens of the state called "Greece" are not Greeks. "Greece" was once, many thousands of years ago, it was then that they had made this place their own place, their throne, their headquarters. We have nothing to do with them. Not even our ancient ancestors had anything to do with the Greeks, yes, those of the classical period. Even then there were few Greeks among them. The Greeks have always been few among the many, because their work here on earth was nothing more than teaching and spreading Knowledge. The teachers were Greek. The teachers. This comes from very specific references in the ancient texts, which are not of the present moment.

It is difficult for anyone to accept this today, because the ahistorical and unwise implant has passed into his skin, yet it is of great philosophical value to locate the true meaning of the word "Greek", for it is revealing of the Knowledge that was repressed, of the Knowledge that was dormant for "a thousand years", but he never died. Knowledge, that is Memory, will be activated and, in the end, the people, the Greeks, will remember. They will not remember their old empire, as many think, but the identity and mission of the beings who came down from heaven to earth for a definite and, of course, higher purpose."

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So you will be a stupid ass that still believes that ancient middle eastern bull shit.
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If your neighbor kills you he might at least keep your donkey. And if the donkey believes its bull shit he might stay away from finding out there was actually a bull.
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Seems like a strange group to be asking. That’s like asking people that don’t believe there’s a Bigfoot why you should believe in Bigfoot.
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It is a provocateur and anyone who takes this seriously has and IQ of literally zero.
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I can give you 1 example now. There are others but the information isn't exactly spead freely. History, DNA, races, it's mostly bullshit with some truth.

Jewish linguist and researcher professor at the University of Tel Aviv, Joseph Yahuda, following research spanning 30 years in his book "Hebrew is Greek ", testifies that 90% of Hebrew and Arabic words are Greek.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward Cyprus


I wonder how far back these linguists were able to go. I've been following a hewbrew scholar from line of hebrew scholars that says what we have as hebrew today is nothing like the original, ancient hebrew.
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That would be true. Same goes for ancient Greek, of which there are at least 2 versions. The last version I saw on inscriptions at the sanctuary of Asklepios in Greece looked very much like modern English. It was all written in capital letters and there were no spaces between the words. It is said that this version could be read from both left to right and right to left. It was an ancient stone tablet written by Asklepios himself with a list of ailments/diseases with his recommended treatments/cures.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward Cyprus


At this stage of the game, we'll never know the truth. Especially with all the "mandela" effects occurring.

I've heard it said that the English language is actually Enocian (black magick) backwards.
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The inscriptions I read at the base of a headless Statue of Zeus at the ancient Olympian Temple in Salamis (occupied Northern Cyprus) were also all caps with no spaces but the writing resembled today's Greek much more than English.
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Suggest you read about the life of CS Lewis, and read his book “ Mere Christianity”

Lewis as a young man rejected Christianity for atheism, then as his life and philosophical writings progressed, became an advocate of Christianity. His reasoning is laid out in the book.
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Scientists and intellects are the very reason civilization fails to progress.

These people either need to have a gun at their head or on their deathbed to finally come to their senses.

A sad state of affairs Frankly.
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Suggest you read about the life of CS Lewis, and read his book “ Mere Christianity”

Lewis as a young man rejected Christianity for atheism, then as his life and philosophical writings progressed, became an advocate of Christianity. His reasoning is laid out in the book.
 Quoting: Dodger007


Scientists and intellects are the very reason civilization fails to progress.

These people either need to have a gun at their head or on their deathbed to finally come to their senses.

A sad state of affairs Frankly.
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Good reason to become a Christian, so that society will progress.





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