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Anonymous Coward User ID: 533607 United States 12/08/2008 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My question is, does this insane drop in the t-bill rates effect my t-bills from 5-10 years ago? Should I cash these notes out now since the interest is going to be so low, or were my rates locked in when the t-bills were bought? Any advice would be appreciated and you will be personally thanked. |
Dolomite User ID: 101285 Canada 12/08/2008 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dow should to go of 9.000 to 2.000 in few days.This is the end of the imperium. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 568343Dow should go down???? Why???? cuz T-Bill interest rates are low...so what? T-Bill rates actually went negative for a few hours a couple of months ago. One has nothing to do with the other. |
Kanigo2 User ID: 442313 United States 12/08/2008 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | kanigo...let us hear your treasury run down. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 387092I know you've been keeping up with it very well. Are they safe in this time of craziness? Absolutely safe, no matter where the dollar ends up on the index. No treasury Bill or bond has ever, not been redeemed. But as ya can tell, if the dollar crashes, the market will shoot up. You can always take the "bills" you personally purchesed and asked them to be "redeemed" w/service fee of course, unless you have a treasury account. at what ever/pro-rata(percentage of the total) value you have invested in them. I am laughing because I wonder if and when the bubble will burst under this rate driving the market. Alt+F4 Allows GodLikeProductions User to Check Current score in Thread Dialog. "GLP has some batty shit, but yours takes the fucking biscuit "-Disputed- Hurray for Anarchy! This is the happiest moment of my life. |
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Kanigo2 User ID: 442313 United States 12/08/2008 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dow should to go of 9.000 to 2.000 in few days.This is the end of the imperium. Quoting: Dolomite 101285Dow should go down???? Why???? cuz T-Bill interest rates are low...so what? T-Bill rates actually went negative for a few hours a couple of months ago. One has nothing to do with the other. Well they actually did, see thats the other funny thing, we were using that as a market indicator for people running to safety, because when the yeilds would go down, the market would crash/and shoot up, like a double negative peak. Ever since this Citibank deal and the quantitive easing. There is no market. And we cannot use it anymore, for how the market is going to perform. But they are still running for safety...LOL Alt+F4 Allows GodLikeProductions User to Check Current score in Thread Dialog. "GLP has some batty shit, but yours takes the fucking biscuit "-Disputed- Hurray for Anarchy! This is the happiest moment of my life. |
Kanigo2 User ID: 442313 United States 12/08/2008 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Soon you will paying TPTB to give you back the dollars which will lose 25% a year to inflaton. Quoting: LesterWhat a deal! Does anything still make sense in the financial realm besides goods and precious metals? Even that is a lie, all we have left is what value one currency has to another. BUT---and a Giant BUT... The Chinese just degraded their currency in the last day. So now what do we look for? Anyone? Do even the gold bugs believe that that market isnt being manipulated? Everything we hear is a lie, they want us to go back to sleep. Alt+F4 Allows GodLikeProductions User to Check Current score in Thread Dialog. "GLP has some batty shit, but yours takes the fucking biscuit "-Disputed- Hurray for Anarchy! This is the happiest moment of my life. |
Lester User ID: 568370 United States 12/08/2008 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Serious question, my grandparents, God rest their souls, began buying me a 10-year Treasury note on my birthday about 15 years ago. This lasted about 10 years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 533607My question is, does this insane drop in the t-bill rates effect my t-bills from 5-10 years ago? Should I cash these notes out now since the interest is going to be so low, or were my rates locked in when the t-bills were bought? Any advice would be appreciated and you will be personally thanked. NO! Your bonds will redeem at their face value with interest accrued. NOW would be a great time to sell those bonds, as the premium they will earn for higher interest rate and prompter maturity makes them Extremely Valuable to whatever idiot is buying bonds right now. It must be a real bitch to try an manage money when the value of it is diminishing daily in terms of quality goods available for purchase. Of course, if you have set obligations and cannot foresee a market collapse, bonds are a safehaven. There is nothing but insanity afoot in the financial landscape of the USA. Wonder how much cash value life insurance Northwestern Mutual Life is selling these days? Always somebody out there wants to believe in things of this world. Good luck with your bonds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 533607 United States 12/08/2008 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Serious question, my grandparents, God rest their souls, began buying me a 10-year Treasury note on my birthday about 15 years ago. This lasted about 10 years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 533607My question is, does this insane drop in the t-bill rates effect my t-bills from 5-10 years ago? Should I cash these notes out now since the interest is going to be so low, or were my rates locked in when the t-bills were bought? Any advice would be appreciated and you will be personally thanked. Admittedly I am the ignorant one here. Just looking for some advice from those smarter than me on how to save the most money. |
Kanigo2 User ID: 442313 United States 12/08/2008 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But what is the SMART money doing, and what is in demand, Everyone dont answer at once. Treasury bonds. In fact, in record numbers. Look around you....Everyone. What TWO things are being bought sold and shorted. Currencies for other countries(like greece and balkan states) and higher yeild bonds ,like the 10 are being shorted. In anticipation, of them drawing an even lower yeild. This is currency war-full fledged battle royal currency war. Alt+F4 Allows GodLikeProductions User to Check Current score in Thread Dialog. "GLP has some batty shit, but yours takes the fucking biscuit "-Disputed- Hurray for Anarchy! This is the happiest moment of my life. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 533607 United States 12/08/2008 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO! Your bonds will redeem at their face value with interest accrued. Quoting: LesterNOW would be a great time to sell those bonds, as the premium they will earn for higher interest rate and prompter maturity makes them Extremely Valuable to whatever idiot is buying bonds right now. It must be a real bitch to try an manage money when the value of it is diminishing daily in terms of quality goods available for purchase. Of course, if you have set obligations and cannot foresee a market collapse, bonds are a safehaven. There is nothing but insanity afoot in the financial landscape of the USA. Wonder how much cash value life insurance Northwestern Mutual Life is selling these days? Always somebody out there wants to believe in things of this world. Good luck with your bonds. Thanks, I guess I will hold onto them until I really need the money. Good to know they will redeem at face value + interest even if the economy takes a shit. Of course, $100 won't be much if the dollar goes down hard, but I don't have any other investment ideas for that thousand bucks or so... |
Kanigo2 User ID: 442313 United States 12/08/2008 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO! Your bonds will redeem at their face value with interest accrued. Quoting: LesterNOW would be a great time to sell those bonds, as the premium they will earn for higher interest rate and prompter maturity makes them Extremely Valuable to whatever idiot is buying bonds right now. It must be a real bitch to try an manage money when the value of it is diminishing daily in terms of quality goods available for purchase. Of course, if you have set obligations and cannot foresee a market collapse, bonds are a safehaven. There is nothing but insanity afoot in the financial landscape of the USA. Wonder how much cash value life insurance Northwestern Mutual Life is selling these days? Always somebody out there wants to believe in things of this world. Good luck with your bonds. If you wait till they come to term-and that is where your wisdom is paying off lester. That redemption value is never less, than what you originally paid for the bond and you do not have to hold to yeild to redeem it. But in the meantime- there is a backroom battle on a global scale over what those currencies will be worth. For example if you pay 99.99876 for a 100$ bond. In three months, or two, or even 3 days when you redeem it, It may not be worth half, what the YEN was worth when you bought it. Bingo. Don't let go of that thought Lester, what you have there is wisdom. Alt+F4 Allows GodLikeProductions User to Check Current score in Thread Dialog. "GLP has some batty shit, but yours takes the fucking biscuit "-Disputed- Hurray for Anarchy! This is the happiest moment of my life. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 550745 Spain 12/08/2008 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But what is the SMART money doing, and what is in demand, Everyone dont answer at once. Quoting: Kanigo2Treasury bonds. In fact, in record numbers. Look around you....Everyone. What TWO things are being bought sold and shorted. Currencies for other countries(like greece and balkan states) and higher yeild bonds ,like the 10 are being shorted. In anticipation, of them drawing an even lower yeild. This is currency war-full fledged battle royal currency war. Hmmm are you sure you know what you're talking about? I mean - Greece uses Euros so I'm thinking...no you don't. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 568378 Japan 12/08/2008 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Serious question, my grandparents, God rest their souls, began buying me a 10-year Treasury note on my birthday about 15 years ago. This lasted about 10 years. Quoting: LesterMy question is, does this insane drop in the t-bill rates effect my t-bills from 5-10 years ago? Should I cash these notes out now since the interest is going to be so low, or were my rates locked in when the t-bills were bought? Any advice would be appreciated and you will be personally thanked. NO! Your bonds will redeem at their face value with interest accrued. NOW would be a great time to sell those bonds, as the premium they will earn for higher interest rate and prompter maturity makes them Extremely Valuable to whatever idiot is buying bonds right now. It must be a real bitch to try an manage money when the value of it is diminishing daily in terms of quality goods available for purchase. Of course, if you have set obligations and cannot foresee a market collapse, bonds are a safehaven. There is nothing but insanity afoot in the financial landscape of the USA. Wonder how much cash value life insurance Northwestern Mutual Life is selling these days? Always somebody out there wants to believe in things of this world. Good luck with your bonds. "NOW would be a great time to sell those bonds, as the premium they will earn for higher interest rate and prompter maturity makes them Extremely Valuable to whatever idiot is buying bonds right now." Could be an unwise choice if you don't know what you'll do with the cash. |
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Kanigo2 User ID: 442313 United States 12/08/2008 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hmmm are you sure you know what you're talking about? I mean - Greece uses Euros so I'm thinking...no you don't. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 550745There is intent behind what I am saying- This is based upon the GNP of the countries in question vs their ability to pay. Dont count on that Euro, there are other currencies in that country. The worst offenders are, Ireland and Italy. There are also countries that sit outside the zones- that are being destroyed as we speak, All I am doing is pointing to the wave, that just breached the shoreline, and its a big bastard. Alt+F4 Allows GodLikeProductions User to Check Current score in Thread Dialog. "GLP has some batty shit, but yours takes the fucking biscuit "-Disputed- Hurray for Anarchy! This is the happiest moment of my life. |
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Kanigo2 User ID: 442313 United States 12/08/2008 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "NOW would be a great time to sell those bonds, as the premium they will earn for higher interest rate and prompter maturity makes them Extremely Valuable to whatever idiot is buying bonds right now." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 568378Could be an unwise choice if you don't know what you'll do with the cash. In fact , it is a great time to buy them, Now you understand what Citibank did with that (I heard it was 20 billion, then I heard it was 45 billion). Of "quantitative easing". Getting toxic assets off your books and owning treasuries with yeild. Priceless. Alt+F4 Allows GodLikeProductions User to Check Current score in Thread Dialog. "GLP has some batty shit, but yours takes the fucking biscuit "-Disputed- Hurray for Anarchy! This is the happiest moment of my life. |
Kanigo2 User ID: 442313 United States 12/08/2008 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do believe, everyone is starting to see. There is no-one alive that I can even talk to about it. Except, for you fine folks. All I can do is criticize and ridicule it. Can anyone here believe we live in these times? Alt+F4 Allows GodLikeProductions User to Check Current score in Thread Dialog. "GLP has some batty shit, but yours takes the fucking biscuit "-Disputed- Hurray for Anarchy! This is the happiest moment of my life. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 373696 United States 12/08/2008 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can anyone here believe we live in these times? Quoting: Kanigo2LOL Do we have a choice? So what do you know about the Irish thing? Are they holding up? If I were shopping for bonds, would I want the 3 month, or the 10 year? Seems like the short term would be better, but I don't know what I don't know. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 568375 United States 12/08/2008 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do believe, everyone is starting to see. Quoting: Kanigo2There is no-one alive that I can even talk to about it. Except, for you fine folks. All I can do is criticize and ridicule it. Can anyone here believe we live in these times? That's like asking if anybody can believe how stupid human beings are. Or how crazy. Or how bizarre. Yeah I can believe we created this mess. Hell 2/3 of the folks on Earth will kill other people's babies over some imaginary God. There is pretty much no limit to stupid human tricks. We discover the technology to build a weapon that can destroy mankind and immediately set out to build 24,000 of them. As fast as possible. We discover the means to alter genes and then just start doing it with no oversight or regulation at all. AND we release this stuff directly into the environment. Then we immediately try to eliminate all competitive strains that aren't randomly modified. We are some crazy barbaric motherfuckers! We should all be in jail for the good of society. |