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U.K. Citizens Doubt Darwinism And Richard Dawkins Is Upset About It

 
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U.K. Citizens Doubt Darwinism And Richard Dawkins Is Upset About It
A new poll reveals that even in the U.K., the public seriously doubts Charles Darwin's theory of evolution, and prominent atheist Richard Dawkins is seriously upset about it.

In the poll, over half of the respondents indicated that they believe that the theory of evolution cannot explain the full complexity of life on Earth and that a "designer" must have been involved.

The poll also revealed that about one out of three citizens of the U.K. believe that God created the world within the past 10,000 years.

Now keep in mind that this poll was taken in the ultra secularized U.K.

Of course the results of this poll infuriated Richard Dawkins and in response he said that this poll is proof that much of the population in the U.K. is "pig-ignorant" about science.

Dawkins is at the center of the gigantic debate in western society over whether "creation" (or "intelligent design") should be taught alongside the theory of evolution in public schools.

But should there even be a debate? What does the scientific evidence say?

After all, shouldn't the actual science be more important than what people would like to believe?

Shouldn't logic, reason and hard facts trump any personal agenda that anyone is trying to push?

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the atheist shouldn't panic
when people refuse to let him play "god"
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It shows that no matter how hard they tried UK citizens could not be dumbed down and have figured out for themselves that Darwinism is impossible.
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The poll also revealed that about one out of three citizens of the U.K. believe that God created the world within the past 10,000 years.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 415581


Where did they carry out this poll, in a church?
I live in the UK and I don't know anybody that believes that the world was created within the last 10,000.
And before you ask, I do not like Richard Dawkins either.
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Many, many scientists do not accept Dawinism, especially when paired with spontaneous mutation as a speciating process. I am one.

This does not imply that I am a creationist, just that we don't understand the process.
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Looks like a very educated bunch to me.
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
They can't be indoctrinated but do their own research.
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Richard Dawkins explains lunatic belief he thinks is science

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his small human mind could never understand his creator
even if it wanted to understand
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"There is an old Irish joke, retold here by Richard Dawkins, about somebody in Northern Ireland who responded to a survey question about religious affiliation by declaring himself an atheist. ‘Would that be a Protestant atheist or a Catholic atheist?’ came the insistent reply. Faced with a similar inquiry, I would be obliged to declare myself a Catholic atheist. By this I mean that I am an atheist by conviction, but a Catholic by upbringing and tribal affiliation."-Richard Dawkins
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Dawkins and Catholics like him will never accept a young earth as science no matter the evidence because that means accepting the Bible including Genesis. This would make them a Protestant.
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It shows that no matter how hard they tried UK citizens could not be dumbed down and have figured out for themselves that Darwinism is impossible.
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bump hf
Noah was a conspiracy theorist too, until it started raining.
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I doubt darwinism to, dont doubt evolution though.
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Irrefutable mathematical evidence of the connection between the sacred geometries of religions and scientific facts about particle physics, DNA and the human skeleton:

http;//www.smphillips.8m.com

Implication?

God exists.
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You're either a Neo-Darwinist like Dawkins.. or a Creationist nut.. apparently there is no room in the middle, which is what is fucking stupid about this debate.

Evolution does not explain everything and it has many, many holes in the THEORY. Creationism has some valid counter arguments, but is equally flawed.

What ever happened to saying "we just don't have the full picture right now?" instead of settling for fundamentalist dorks like Dawkins or some nub in the Church?
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rofl

Do people really believe the bullshit and pseudo-science that Dawkins is spewing?
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Dorkins should just stfu instead of trying to convert everybody to "atheism".
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It shows that no matter how hard they tried UK citizens could not be dumbed down and have figured out for themselves that Darwinism is impossible.
 Quoting: meras 604988

+1

I studied molecular biology at uni and think Darwinism is total bunk.

There is tons of evidence for evolution but not one single scrap of evidence that demonstrates that the mutations are 'random' and 'blind'


If anyone thinks I'm wrong then please paste the links to references that prove it
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I just began liking the British a whole lot better.
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You're either a Neo-Darwinist like Dawkins.. or a Creationist nut.. apparently there is no room in the middle, which is what is fucking stupid about this debate.

Evolution does not explain everything and it has many, many holes in the THEORY. Creationism has some valid counter arguments, but is equally flawed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 745719

Ok, what are some of the 'flaws' in the creation argument?


You are correct about Evolutionism, it is not a genuine science and it is not based on scientific method or sound reasoning. There is no real scientific evidence to support evolution, you have to believe in it; thus, evolution is a religion!
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Im sorry guys you dont have a choice, the truth is not relative, evolution is a fact.

If you think otherwise you have never understood the theory.

As for the Dawkins Video, everybody knows it is an edit and is made to look that way.



Here is a hot atheist chick laying the smackdown.
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The term "Darwinism" can be misleading. Is it social-Darwinism or something else? You can;t just use that term alone.
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and still there is no evidence of "god" kinda amusing that christards mocking all other theories that has more backbone than religion.
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You are correct about Evolutionism, it is not a genuine science and it is not based on scientific method or sound reasoning. There is no real scientific evidence to support evolution, you have to believe in it; thus, evolution is a religion!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946345


Bullshit, evolution is lab testable.
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There is more evidence of God than there is evidence against it. However, if that's the case, there is no true evidence to many scientific thoughts. But just because there are holes in Evolution does not mean it is not true. Just like if there is no evidence that there is such a thing as a "God" does not mean it is n not real. The whole I.D V Evolution debate is pure nonsense and has nothing to do with theology or science.
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There is more evidence of God than there is evidence against it. However, if that's the case, there is no true evidence to many scientific thoughts. But just because there are holes in Evolution does not mean it is not true. Just like if there is no evidence that there is such a thing as a "God" does not mean it is n not real. The whole I.D V Evolution debate is pure nonsense and has nothing to do with theology or science.
 Quoting: Béla Bartók


evidence of god?

haha good one...

Time to quote some texts from the bible?
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One day we will be able to terraform a planet in less than seven days.

What a surprise to the inhabitants that we create there, when they find out that their theory of evolution was not only mistaken, for them, but that their planet came to be the way it was in only six days.
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That humans pretend to know anything, cracks me up.

All monkeys and nuts.
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Bible text? That would be stupid since i Believe in the God of Spinoza rather than the God of faith. It shows how much you know about the subject.
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Im sorry guys you dont have a choice, the truth is not relative, evolution is a fact.
 Quoting: Dr.Walter.Bishop


Even if it is it doesn't rule out creationalism, creation itself may evolve by intelligent design.
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Argumentum ad populum

Dawkins is at the center of the gigantic debate in western society over whether "creation" (or "intelligent design") should be taught alongside the theory of evolution in public schools.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 415581

What gigantic debate?

This stuff is only taken serious in funny places like the American bible belt.

ID is not science and therefor cannot be thought in biology class.


Many, many scientists do not accept Dawinism...
 Quoting: SEADOG 601683

Ever heard of Project Steve?

This does not imply that I am a creationist, just that we don't understand the process.
 Quoting: SEADOG 601683

Maybe it's just you who doesn't.


I doubt darwinism to, dont doubt evolution though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 942646

Then you might be pleased to learn that only creationists use the word Darwinism.

The science of biology has moved on considerably.
Google Modern Synthesis


That humans pretend to know anything, cracks me up.

All monkeys and nuts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 943322

Well, wallow in your ignorance then.

Meanwhile the rest of mankind marches on.
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Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans.
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Re: U.K. Citizens Doubt Darwinism And Richard Dawkins Is Upset About It
A new poll reveals that even in the U.K., the public seriously doubts Charles Darwin's theory of evolution, and prominent atheist Richard Dawkins is seriously upset about it.

In the poll, over half of the respondents indicated that they believe that the theory of evolution cannot explain the full complexity of life on Earth and that a "designer" must have been involved.

The poll also revealed that about one out of three citizens of the U.K. believe that God created the world within the past 10,000 years.

Now keep in mind that this poll was taken in the ultra secularized U.K.

Of course the results of this poll infuriated Richard Dawkins and in response he said that this poll is proof that much of the population in the U.K. is "pig-ignorant" about science.

Dawkins is at the center of the gigantic debate in western society over whether "creation" (or "intelligent design") should be taught alongside the theory of evolution in public schools.

But should there even be a debate? What does the scientific evidence say?

After all, shouldn't the actual science be more important than what people would like to believe?

Shouldn't logic, reason and hard facts trump any personal agenda that anyone is trying to push?

[link to thefinalhour.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 415581



Anything that could upset Richard Dawkins is a good thing!!!

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