STATES WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO SUCCEED FROM THE UNION. | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5174 United States 02/04/2009 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Winningjob User ID: 385114 United States 02/04/2009 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 550635 United States 02/04/2009 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 606830 United States 02/04/2009 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 148742 United States 02/04/2009 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Lawman User ID: 606228 United States 02/04/2009 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHY IS EVERYONE SHOUTING? Quoting: WinningjobMaybe they are not, just too lazy to use the keyboard. ` ` (Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)... Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. ~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me ~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler :damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
Just A Thought User ID: 93768 Lithuania 02/04/2009 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Winningjob User ID: 385114 United States 02/04/2009 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Sireen-reborn User ID: 564188 United States 02/04/2009 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are not trying to succeed. They are trying to take their rights/powers back from the Federal Government. Quoting: Just A ThoughtAnd they SHOULD...as we all should! anything after 'but' is bullshit! [link to www.myspace.com] "Once you open your mind to the possibility of conspiracy, you then see conspiracy in everything." [link to deadbydecember-sireen.blogspot.com] |
xham-sammichx User ID: 602223 United States 02/04/2009 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Annie Oakley User ID: 503783 United States 02/04/2009 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not about Secession About State's Rights! Totally Constitutional Hands Off, Feds! -- New Hampshire Seeking to Reclaim State Supremacy Thread: Hands Off, Feds! -- New Hampshire Seeking to Reclaim State Supremacy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 607205 Japan 02/04/2009 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Lawman User ID: 606228 United States 02/04/2009 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now that is a good tutorial ;~) ` ` (Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)... Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. ~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me ~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler :damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
Nailer45 User ID: 607097 United States 02/04/2009 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CONGRESS WILL NOT LET STATES LEAVE THE UNION WHICH WOULD THUS WEAKEN OUR NATIONS STREGNTH ..OPS ARE STATING BULL SHIT IDEAS ..FOR PANIC PURPOSES .. Quoting: ANONYMOUS 607491congress can not stop the states from seceeding as the feds and congress have no power over the states body.. The feds can cut federal funds to states but that is about it. Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 418693 United States 02/04/2009 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are absolutely right in that if they were trying, they would not be allowed to succeed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 532556 United States 02/04/2009 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 588041 United States 02/04/2009 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Lawman User ID: 606228 United States 02/04/2009 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "STATES WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO SUCCEED FROM THE UNION." What do you mean by saying the states will not be able to come after the Union? Oh, sorry, you mean SECEDE. Again, spelling optional in America. ` ` (Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)... Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. ~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me ~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler :damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 574748 United States 02/04/2009 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5174 United States 02/04/2009 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Lawman User ID: 606228 United States 02/04/2009 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I divorced this faux gov in 1998. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 574748If you did not claim your nationality, I doubt it. ` ` (Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)... Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. ~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me ~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler :damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
PatrikC325 User ID: 587344 United States 02/04/2009 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Lawman User ID: 606228 United States 02/04/2009 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now is not the time for thoughts of seceding... The New World Order will have all other countries with their installed puppet governments attack all who resist them. All people of America must ban together at this time and take their nationalities back. ` ` (Be) Divide(ed) and (be) Conquer(ed)... Don’t listen to what they say, watch what they do. ~There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner. —me ~What luck for Rulers that Men do not Think. —Adolf Hitler :damned: Doom is optional. There is good news abounds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 548321 United States 02/04/2009 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Nailer45 User ID: 607097 United States 02/04/2009 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Montana Secretary of State Brad Johnson sent a letter to the Washington Times, and many Montana politicians have signed onto a resolution, notifying the United States Supreme Court that any “Collective Rights” holding in the D.C. V. Heller case, currently before the court, will violate Montana’s compact with the United States by which it entered the union in 1889. Secretary of State Brad Johnson’s Communications Director, Mr. Bowen Greenwood, confirmed the resolution by telephone with me this afternoon. The text of the resolution is as follows. AN EXTRA-SESSION RESOLUTION OF INDIVIDUAL LEGISLATORS OF THE 60TH MONTANA LEGISLATURE AND OTHER ELECTED MONTANA OFFICIALS URGING THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT THAT ANY "COLLECTIVE RIGHTS" HOLDING IN D.C. V. HELLER WILL VIOLATE MONTANA'S COMPACT WITH THE UNITED STATES, THE CONTRACT BY WHICH MONTANA ENTERED THE UNION IN 1889. WHEREAS, the United States Supreme Court (Court) has agreed to review and decide the case of D.C. v. Heller appealed to it from the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals; WHEREAS, the Court has agreed to consider the question, "Whether the following provisions — D.C. Code secs. 7-2502.02(a)(4), 22-4504(a), and 7-2507.02 — violate the Second Amendment rights of individuals who are not affiliated with any state-regulated militia, but who wish to keep handguns and other firearms for private use in their homes"; WHEREAS, when the Court determines in Heller whether or not the Second Amendment secures an individual right, the Court will establish precedent that will affect the State of Montana and the political rights of the citizens of Montana; WHEREAS, when Montana entered into statehood in 1889, that entrance was accomplished by a contract between Montana and the several states, a contract known as The Compact With The United States (Compact), found today as Article I of the Montana Constitution; WHEREAS, with authority from Congress acting as agent for the several states, President Benjamin Harrison approved the Montana Constitution in 1889, which secured the right of "any person" to bear arms, clearly intended as an individual right and an individual right deemed consistent then with the Second Amendment by the parties to the contract; WHEREAS, the wording of the Second Amendment and the Montana right to bear arms, now Article II, Section 12, exist today in form and wording identical to that agreed upon by the citizens of Montana and the United States in 1889 and unchanged since then; and WHEREAS, a contract, compact or treaty must be implemented consistent with the terms and understandings in place at the time entered into. THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED by the undersigned members of the 60th Montana Legislature as follows: 1. That any form of "collective rights" holding by the Court in Heller will offend the Compact; and 2. That the Second Amendment and the Montana right to bear arms are both statements securing a preexisting right from government interference, and do not confer any boon of government upon the people; and 3. The level of review for the Montana right to bear arms and for the Second Amendment are specified within those declared rights -- "shall not be infringed" for the Second Amendment, and "shall not be called in question" for the Montana right to bear arms; 4. Montana reserves all usual rights and remedies under historic contract law if its Compact should be violated by any "collective rights" holding in Heller; 5. The undersigned incorporate by reference here a more thorough, attached explanation of the contract argument advanced; and 6. The undersigned legislators appreciate the attention of the Court to this argument on behalf of Montana and its citizens. Including the Montana Secretary of State, the initial 39 signers of the resolution include Montana United States Congressman Denny Rehberg, and various Democrat and Republican Montana state legislators. In addition to the 2nd Amendment of the United States Constitution, Section 12 of the Montana State Constitution guarantees the right to bear arms. The text is as follows: The right of any person to keep or bear arms in defense of his own home, person, and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but nothing herein contained shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. We in Montana, who are tired of seeing our United States Constitutional Rights violated in many areas, applaud this declaration by our lawmakers and are happy that they are in effect drawing a line in the sand. Perhaps we can also get them to do something similar regarding the 4th Amendment and the FISA reauthorization that was passed by the United States Senate currently under consideration in the House. Links: [link to www.dailypaul.com] Montana, the Second Amendment and D.C. v. Heller: [link to www.progunleaders.org] Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
Annie Oakley User ID: 503783 United States 02/04/2009 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now is not the time for thoughts of seceding... The New World Order will have all other countries with their installed puppet governments attack all who resist them. All people of America must ban together at this time and take their nationalities back. ` Not About Secession About Constitutional State's Rights. |
Annie Oakley User ID: 503783 United States 02/04/2009 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 418693 United States 02/04/2009 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
ANONYMOUS (OP) User ID: 607491 United States 02/04/2009 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHY IS EVERYONE SHOUTING? Quoting: markusmaximusI AM NOT SHOUTING I AM USING A FUCKINGHG BLACKBERRY ..CAPS ARE EASIER TO READ..GET THE FUCK OVER IT .MANY FOLKS NEED CAPS ON THIER BLACKBERRY .EYE SIGHT ISSUES ..GLPP ERS MUST ACCEPT THE NEW NORM BECAUSE OF BLACKBERRY USE ON NETS FORUMS ARE COMMOM NOW .A 2 AND HALF INCH SCREEN IS TUFF TO READ ..LOTS OF SPELLING ERRORS ARE VERY EASY FROM POOR EYESIGHT ISSUES..ON TINY BLACKBERRY SCREENS .LOL.. |
JohnnyCarcinogen User ID: 541702 United States 02/04/2009 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHY IS EVERYONE SHOUTING? Quoting: ANONYMOUS 607491I AM NOT SHOUTING I AM USING A FUCKINGHG BLACKBERRY ..CAPS ARE EASIER TO READ..GET THE FUCK OVER IT .MANY FOLKS NEED CAPS ON THIER BLACKBERRY .EYE SIGHT ISSUES ..GLPP ERS MUST ACCEPT THE NEW NORM BECAUSE OF BLACKBERRY USE ON NETS FORUMS ARE COMMOM NOW .A 2 AND HALF INCH SCREEN IS TUFF TO READ ..LOTS OF SPELLING ERRORS ARE VERY EASY FROM POOR EYESIGHT ISSUES..ON TINY BLACKBERRY SCREENS .LOL.. Your caps lock is not preventing spelling errors. Turn it off. None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. |