**UPDATE**CASH FOR CLUNKERS ELIGIBLE CARS AND STIPULATIONS...WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT!!! | |
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refugee13 (OP) User ID: 736673 United States 07/29/2009 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That big-gov program should be abolished. We have no need for the feds managing our lives. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 737229It just pisses me off because I have a Ford Aerostar 1994 that is currently getting 13 mpg...but I can't qualify because my vehicle has been isured less than year, and I have been unemployed since August 08 and cannot afford a new car payment... "Livin' The Dream..." "Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more" "So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..." "Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..." |
refugee13 (OP) User ID: 736673 United States 07/30/2009 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | now according to the update, THE GOVERNMENT is deciding how much your mpg is...the computer on mine says I get 13mpg, wonder what the fucking government says it gets??? "Livin' The Dream..." "Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more" "So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..." "Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 738018 United Kingdom 07/30/2009 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A few thoughts, Ref.... Remember the many billions of $$ we gave the auto industry? For the monies they took, every head of a household should have gotten a new car! They took the money and went bankrupt anyway. Now they have this great 'program' for us with many catch-22's... The conspiracy theorist in me says they want all older cars off the road, not because of fuel efficiency, but because the old vehicles don't have the computer chip in them that the newer ones do. The new cars can be stopped (disabled) by the police. Read up on the On-Star thingy that uses a space satellite. I have read where a thief stole a car and it was disabled while he was on the highway, because it had that special chip in it.. I have a 10 yr old car that gets 19 mpg (whoops, I don't qualify!!!)...but it runs great. I'm keeping it. Screw these people and their 'programs'. |
Avian User ID: 684156 United States 07/30/2009 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a 2002 Olds Silhouette with city of 18 and highway of 20 so average is 19...doesnt qualify it should be sliding scale i.e. 17 mpg 4500 18 mpg 4000 19 mpg 3500 20 mpg 3000 21 mpg 2500 and so on and your new car must get say atleast 10 mpg better if more than 10 mpg add 50 dollars for every mpg over example: I want a 2009 Prius mpg of 48 combined so I get a 3500 federal tax credit plus another 950 (19x50) or a total of 4500. "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frédéric Bastiat food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck |
refugee13 (OP) User ID: 736673 United States 07/30/2009 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A few thoughts, Ref.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 738018Remember the many billions of $$ we gave the auto industry? For the monies they took, every head of a household should have gotten a new car! They took the money and went bankrupt anyway. Now they have this great 'program' for us with many catch-22's... The conspiracy theorist in me says they want all older cars off the road, not because of fuel efficiency, but because the old vehicles don't have the computer chip in them that the newer ones do. The new cars can be stopped (disabled) by the police. Read up on the On-Star thingy that uses a space satellite. I have read where a thief stole a car and it was disabled while he was on the highway, because it had that special chip in it.. I have a 10 yr old car that gets 19 mpg (whoops, I don't qualify!!!)...but it runs great. I'm keeping it. Screw these people and their 'programs'. I know what you're saying...but it is getting to the point where I have toreally limit how much I drive due to the shitty gas mileage...but, on the other hand, I'll always have a place to lay my head if I lose my apartment... "Livin' The Dream..." "Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more" "So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..." "Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..." |
refugee13 (OP) User ID: 736673 United States 07/30/2009 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a 2002 Olds Silhouette with city of 18 and highway of 20 so average is 19...doesnt qualify Quoting: Avianit should be sliding scale i.e. 17 mpg 4500 18 mpg 4000 19 mpg 3500 20 mpg 3000 21 mpg 2500 and so on and your new car must get say atleast 10 mpg better if more than 10 mpg add 50 dollars for every mpg over example: I want a 2009 Prius mpg of 48 combined so I get a 3500 federal tax credit plus another 950 (19x50) or a total of 4500. they obviously won't implement that, namely because it would be fair and just... "Livin' The Dream..." "Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more" "So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..." "Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 738018 United Kingdom 07/30/2009 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A few thoughts, Ref.... Quoting: refugee13Remember the many billions of $$ we gave the auto industry? For the monies they took, every head of a household should have gotten a new car! They took the money and went bankrupt anyway. Now they have this great 'program' for us with many catch-22's... The conspiracy theorist in me says they want all older cars off the road, not because of fuel efficiency, but because the old vehicles don't have the computer chip in them that the newer ones do. The new cars can be stopped (disabled) by the police. Read up on the On-Star thingy that uses a space satellite. I have read where a thief stole a car and it was disabled while he was on the highway, because it had that special chip in it.. I have a 10 yr old car that gets 19 mpg (whoops, I don't qualify!!!)...but it runs great. I'm keeping it. Screw these people and their 'programs'. I know what you're saying...but it is getting to the point where I have toreally limit how much I drive due to the shitty gas mileage...but, on the other hand, I'll always have a place to lay my head if I lose my apartment... I hate to say this, but our 'old clunker cars' may be our only viable getaway, some day. Now..think of how they want the "coordinates" to your home (via the census takers)...and include that with this new program of getting rid of your old car that has no chip and buying a new one with a chip that can disable you on the road, if the 'authorities' so choose..... Doesn't it *almost* seem like they want to know your whereabouts whether at home or on the road..? Hmmmmmmmmm I guess if they wanted to know your whereabouts 100% of the time it would have to include some type of chip/rfid tattoo in you..... |
refugee13 (OP) User ID: 736673 United States 07/30/2009 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A few thoughts, Ref.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 738018Remember the many billions of $$ we gave the auto industry? For the monies they took, every head of a household should have gotten a new car! They took the money and went bankrupt anyway. Now they have this great 'program' for us with many catch-22's... The conspiracy theorist in me says they want all older cars off the road, not because of fuel efficiency, but because the old vehicles don't have the computer chip in them that the newer ones do. The new cars can be stopped (disabled) by the police. Read up on the On-Star thingy that uses a space satellite. I have read where a thief stole a car and it was disabled while he was on the highway, because it had that special chip in it.. I have a 10 yr old car that gets 19 mpg (whoops, I don't qualify!!!)...but it runs great. I'm keeping it. Screw these people and their 'programs'. I know what you're saying...but it is getting to the point where I have toreally limit how much I drive due to the shitty gas mileage...but, on the other hand, I'll always have a place to lay my head if I lose my apartment... I hate to say this, but our 'old clunker cars' may be our only viable getaway, some day. Now..think of how they want the "coordinates" to your home (via the census takers)...and include that with this new program of getting rid of your old car that has no chip and buying a new one with a chip that can disable you on the road, if the 'authorities' so choose..... Doesn't it *almost* seem like they want to know your whereabouts whether at home or on the road..? Hmmmmmmmmm I guess if they wanted to know your whereabouts 100% of the time it would have to include some type of chip/rfid tattoo in you..... I think I'll just get a tune-up... "Livin' The Dream..." "Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more" "So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..." "Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..." |
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refugee13 (OP) User ID: 736673 United States 07/30/2009 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | boo hoo , why should taxpayers have to pony up so worthless piece o shit cars , can be traded up by their worthless piece o shit owners. going to be awesome when gas is 6 bucks + and rationed and all your scrubs have to walk . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 681616stfu... "Livin' The Dream..." "Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more" "So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..." "Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..." |
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refugee13 (OP) User ID: 740664 United States 08/10/2009 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How long do you have to own your new cash for clunkers before you can sell it? Quoting: [email protected] 745959any body know about this??? I'm sure there is a stipulation of some sort on this... "Livin' The Dream..." "Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more" "So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..." "Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 667842 United States 08/18/2009 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it true they destroy the cars (clunkers)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 751297They drain the oil, put a silicone liquid glass solution in the engine instead, and rev it until it hardens and permanently freezes the engine. Yet another great waste of resources and sometimes a perfectly good engine. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 751204 Canada 08/18/2009 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That big-gov program should be abolished. We have no need for the feds managing our lives. Quoting: refugee13It just pisses me off because I have a Ford Aerostar 1994 that is currently getting 13 mpg...but I can't qualify because my vehicle has been isured less than year, and I have been unemployed since August 08 and cannot afford a new car payment... If you cannot afford to pay for a car why in the hell would you be interested in this program in the first place? Are you one of those irresponsible people who buys things and then try to figure out how you will pay for it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 667842 United States 08/18/2009 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That big-gov program should be abolished. We have no need for the feds managing our lives. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 751204It just pisses me off because I have a Ford Aerostar 1994 that is currently getting 13 mpg...but I can't qualify because my vehicle has been isured less than year, and I have been unemployed since August 08 and cannot afford a new car payment... If you cannot afford to pay for a car why in the hell would you be interested in this program in the first place? Are you one of those irresponsible people who buys things and then try to figure out how you will pay for it? The program is there, use it or don't, people will continue to use it. I can think of a lot worse ways to spend taxpayer money, and a lot of money has been spent in those ways. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 751966 United States 08/19/2009 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it true they destroy the cars (clunkers)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 667842They drain the oil, put a silicone liquid glass solution in the engine instead, and rev it until it hardens and permanently freezes the engine. Yet another great waste of resources and sometimes a perfectly good engine. Government waste at its finest. I'm a poor person that could use one of these clunkers. |
refugee13 (OP) User ID: 740664 United States 08/19/2009 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That big-gov program should be abolished. We have no need for the feds managing our lives. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 751204It just pisses me off because I have a Ford Aerostar 1994 that is currently getting 13 mpg...but I can't qualify because my vehicle has been isured less than year, and I have been unemployed since August 08 and cannot afford a new car payment... If you cannot afford to pay for a car why in the hell would you be interested in this program in the first place? Are you one of those irresponsible people who buys things and then try to figure out how you will pay for it? no...but I would be able to trade in and get a nice used car for 4500.00...but you have to buy a new car!!! "Livin' The Dream..." "Don't believe in anyone, 'cos they'll feel you so much more" "So break me down if it makes you feel right~and hate me now if it keeps you alright~you can't break me down if it takes all your might~cause I'm so much more than meets the eye..." "Some people would bitch if their ice cream was cold..." |
Revbo User ID: 538751 United States 08/19/2009 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I heard on Fox News radio today that in Maryland, 325 car dealers are owed $36m from Cash for Clunkers, and to date, they have been paid 2%, or about $720k. The government is hiring 1100 new bureaucrats to administer the program. Meanwhile, car dealers everywhere are pulling out of the program because they have to dispose of these cars, and are not even getting paid. What a great example of government efficiency. Last Edited by Revbo on 08/19/2009 12:39 PM TANSTAAFL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 751966 United States 08/19/2009 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I heard on Fox News radio today that in Maryland, 325 car dealers are owed $36m from Cash for Clunkers, and to date, they have been paid 2%, or about $720k. The government is hiring 1100 new bureaucrats to administer the program. Meanwhile, car dealers everywhere are pulling out of the program because they have to dispose of these cars, and are not even getting paid. What a great example of government efficiency. Quoting: RevboUnFuckingbelievable! |
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