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Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
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Update for 11/27 3 quantum experiments to keep in mind while viewing this thread: 1. double slit [ link to www.youtube.com] The act of perceiving something causes the the wave of possibilities to collapse manifesting an experience. 2. [ link to www.youtube.com] everything is connected 3. superposition something unobserved exists in all its possible states Quoting: dodec 20177375 For #1, would that not imply that each observer has their own wave of possibilities? For #3, if it is unobserved then it would not relate to anything and would not thus have a state. Quoting: Chaol Yup and yup. But for #3 one could say "no energy is independent of perspective(observation)". Until something is observed it seems to sit out there (as a possibility) un-rendered waiting to become logical (enough to be rendered). Quoting: Jesse Sovoda Which gets us back to the question of existence and non-existence. It doesn't exist until it is perceived. We use symbols so we can perceive it. Where do the symbols and/or the knowledge to use them come from? In our world, we use them without even knowing how. So, they exist. Quoting: Unit3 Even when it is perceive it does not exist, but only seem to exist because we have related (what appears to be) something with (what appears to be) something else. We cannot perceive of something because there is only Nothing. When we relate one illusion with an other, existence seems to be. When, actually, it was never there at all. The symbols don't come from anywhere. They don't need to. When you relate one thing with an other thing (both illusions) you have a symbol (that is also an illusion). If there was ever a "source" it is Nothing. But we don't pull something out of nothing as it would be a waste of energy (and also impossible). There need only be the illusion of us doing so. We have a taste of this at every moment in physicality. Things appear solid and are 'good enough' for their purpose. They need not be solid throughout or even real. We need only relate. And relating two illusions together completely satisfies the need to relate.
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