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Message Subject why do healthy young people die from H1N1?
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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BULLS--- on this one.

My son just had SWINE FLU. He had been taking homemade ELDERBERRY for days prior since he works as a DOCTOR OF PHARMACY and is exposed all day to illness. We think the ELDERBERRY gave him some protection and the flu would have been much worse without it.

However, he did come down with H1N1 so he began RIGHT AWAY to take the Sambucus store brand, 4 tablespoons a day, plus VitD3, high doses of Vit C, and many other items.

For three days he has fever of 100 to 101, terrible body pain and muscle aches, throbbing headache, congestion etc, BUT NO backlash of any complications.

Day 5 he was able to return to work. Oh, and by the way he had the SEASONAL flu shot 5 weeks ago, so the flu he had WAS the SWINE FLU.

TAKE ELDERBERRY . . . .TAKE ELDERBERRY . . . it is good for the H1N1 in spite of the misinformation.

THE WORDS BELOW ARE NOT TRUE************

Elderberry juice (Sambucal)Increases production of cytokines TNF-a and IL-6. This substance is very effective against the common flu but may not be desirable for the H5N1 virus. Increases in these cytokines may trigger a lethal cytokine storm. (Isr Med Journal2002 Nov;4:944-6)

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 Quoting: Messenger 804180


Well - cytokines are great fighters, and Elderberry increases these fighters, so it is probably great for fighting the flu.

But if someone has too many fighters (cytokines), they can over-fight and rip apart the lungs in the battle. So if this starts happening, don't you think it would be best to STOP taking the Elderberry right away, since it increases the cytokines?
 
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