Anti-Circumcision Freaks | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 428255 Bulgaria 11/25/2009 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it should be a voluntary practice. Not by the parents, but by the child. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 802888+1 and i think all the freaks who disagree have no place here - their place is among all the other sheeple, control freaks and programmed robots who follow their mindless "traditions"/rituals. Disgusting! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 428255 Bulgaria 11/25/2009 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only problem with getting it done in adulthood is the complications and pain it can create Quoting: Anonymous Coward 756435Uh so babies don`t feel pain? More like you just don`t care. Plus, complications still may exist and they may be psychological. You don`t really know. And that`s another reason it`s evil. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 756435 Canada 11/25/2009 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only problem with getting it done in adulthood is the complications and pain it can create Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255Uh so babies don`t feel pain? More like you just don`t care. Plus, complications still may exist and they may be psychological. You don`t really know. And that`s another reason it`s evil. Yeah, I said one thing. Guess i don't care. You can start calling me a racist now if you please. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 826995 South Africa 11/25/2009 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And here ya go.......it does not matter one way or the other. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4788381Co 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God. Well that settles the matter ......???????? It might settle the matter, if people would learn to accept that it is a matter of choice (for cleanliness,etc) and not a religious rite. But then - because it was from the Bible - you were only trying to think of a smart remark. And completely missed the point. |
elbrian (OP) User ID: 783281 United States 11/25/2009 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol This is just the reaction I was hoping to invoke. Bunch of tards. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 478838 United States 11/25/2009 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only problem with getting it done in adulthood is the complications and pain it can create Quoting: Anonymous Coward 756435Don't whine about pain. I grew up in Turkey, where they commonly wait until a boy reaches adolescence before they do it, without anaesthesia. And to top it off, they make the boy ride a horse to the event at the head of a parade and once done they have a fucking party! Thousands of breast augmentations are done every month. I am sure that they dont tickle. |
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elbrian (OP) User ID: 783281 United States 11/25/2009 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only problem with getting it done in adulthood is the complications and pain it can create Quoting: Anonymous Coward 756435Uh so babies don`t feel pain? More like you just don`t care. Plus, complications still may exist and they may be psychological. You don`t really know. And that`s another reason it`s evil. Yeah, I said one thing. Guess i don't care. You can start calling me a racist now if you please. That's the common mentality of these people. They don't believe in freedoms of the individual and the right to decide what to do with your own child. Just a bunch of religious/control freaks. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 428255 Bulgaria 11/25/2009 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And here ya go.......it does not matter one way or the other. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8269951Co 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God. Well that settles the matter ......???????? It might settle the matter, if people would learn to accept that it is a matter of choice (for cleanliness,etc) and not a religious rite. But then - because it was from the Bible - you were only trying to think of a smart remark. And completely missed the point. Where exactly is the choice? You can`t make a choice when you`re a baby |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 428255 Bulgaria 11/25/2009 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only problem with getting it done in adulthood is the complications and pain it can create Quoting: Anonymous Coward 478838Don't whine about pain. I grew up in Turkey, where they commonly wait until a boy reaches adolescence before they do it, without anaesthesia. And to top it off, they make the boy ride a horse to the event at the head of a parade and once done they have a fucking party! Thousands of breast augmentations are done every month. I am sure that they dont tickle. And just because they do it, it`s acceptable? Well, they are also stoning women in certain countries. |
elbrian (OP) User ID: 783281 United States 11/25/2009 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol This is just the reaction I was hoping to invoke. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 826794Bunch of tards. Proof of a retard culture? Easy... Did you have a choice, elbrian? No, I did not. My parents did, though. I'm not saying it's right or wrong to get circumcised. Please don't mistake my message. I have no opinion, either way. My dick works just fine.. if I was uncircumcised, I probably wouldn't care either. It's vanity, in my opinion. However, I will ALWAYS side with giving people the right to do as they wish with their families/children/beliefs. I am saying it's wrong to tell other people that they cannot circumcise their own children. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 760139 United States 11/25/2009 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We have 2 boys, both circ'd. My husband is circ'd and was very adament about having our boys done. My dad was not circ'd and was very adament before I was born that if were a boy I be circ'd. So, I was glad to have the opinions of two men...one circ'd, one not....when making the decision for my sons. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 816816 United States 11/25/2009 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only problem with getting it done in adulthood is the complications and pain it can create Quoting: elbrianUh so babies don`t feel pain? More like you just don`t care. Plus, complications still may exist and they may be psychological. You don`t really know. And that`s another reason it`s evil. Yeah, I said one thing. Guess i don't care. You can start calling me a racist now if you please. That's the common mentality of these people. They don't believe in freedoms of the individual and the right to decide what to do with your own child. Just a bunch of religious/control freaks. Freedoms of the individual? How about the child? Is the child not an individual? Seriously? Seriously, seriously, seriously? I can't even believe you're arguing that circumcision is a parental RIGHT...but the child has no right at all. Children are not property. And foreskin is not a birth defect. |
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elbrian (OP) User ID: 783281 United States 11/25/2009 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And here ya go.......it does not matter one way or the other. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4282551Co 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God. Well that settles the matter ......???????? It might settle the matter, if people would learn to accept that it is a matter of choice (for cleanliness,etc) and not a religious rite. But then - because it was from the Bible - you were only trying to think of a smart remark. And completely missed the point. Where exactly is the choice? You can`t make a choice when you`re a baby Your parents do. You are (assuming you had responsible parents) a direct reflection of their upbringing and decision-making abilities. |
elbrian (OP) User ID: 783281 United States 11/25/2009 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only problem with getting it done in adulthood is the complications and pain it can create Quoting: Anonymous Coward 816816Uh so babies don`t feel pain? More like you just don`t care. Plus, complications still may exist and they may be psychological. You don`t really know. And that`s another reason it`s evil. Yeah, I said one thing. Guess i don't care. You can start calling me a racist now if you please. That's the common mentality of these people. They don't believe in freedoms of the individual and the right to decide what to do with your own child. Just a bunch of religious/control freaks. Freedoms of the individual? How about the child? Is the child not an individual? Seriously? Seriously, seriously, seriously? I can't even believe you're arguing that circumcision is a parental RIGHT...but the child has no right at all. Children are not property. And foreskin is not a birth defect. What's a defect? You're born how you're born. If you're born with a cleft pallet, fixing it is mutilation. Period. And you can't believe I am in favor of the parent's right to decide? Well, I'm afraid I cannot really argue that one, as I figure it to be self-explanatory. I am so very grateful that my parents had the right to decide. Honestly though, I don't know if I'll circumcise my child (I'm not a father). However, I fully expect to have the right to do so if I choose to do so. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 428255 Bulgaria 11/25/2009 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only problem with getting it done in adulthood is the complications and pain it can create Quoting: Anonymous Coward 816816Uh so babies don`t feel pain? More like you just don`t care. Plus, complications still may exist and they may be psychological. You don`t really know. And that`s another reason it`s evil. Yeah, I said one thing. Guess i don't care. You can start calling me a racist now if you please. That's the common mentality of these people. They don't believe in freedoms of the individual and the right to decide what to do with your own child. Just a bunch of religious/control freaks. Freedoms of the individual? How about the child? Is the child not an individual? Seriously? Seriously, seriously, seriously? I can't even believe you're arguing that circumcision is a parental RIGHT...but the child has no right at all. Children are not property. And foreskin is not a birth defect. These people are pure evil...They obviously have children because of themselves and not because of the children themselves. Apparently children are some kind of property to them. |
elbrian (OP) User ID: 783281 United States 11/25/2009 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only problem with getting it done in adulthood is the complications and pain it can create Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255Uh so babies don`t feel pain? More like you just don`t care. Plus, complications still may exist and they may be psychological. You don`t really know. And that`s another reason it`s evil. Yeah, I said one thing. Guess i don't care. You can start calling me a racist now if you please. That's the common mentality of these people. They don't believe in freedoms of the individual and the right to decide what to do with your own child. Just a bunch of religious/control freaks. Freedoms of the individual? How about the child? Is the child not an individual? Seriously? Seriously, seriously, seriously? I can't even believe you're arguing that circumcision is a parental RIGHT...but the child has no right at all. Children are not property. And foreskin is not a birth defect. These people are pure evil...They obviously have children because of themselves and not because of the children themselves. Apparently children are some kind of property to them. You're obviously a moron and misinterpreting my message. I am not arguing circumcision vs. non-circumcision. I am arguing the parent's right to decide. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 816816 United States 11/25/2009 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only problem with getting it done in adulthood is the complications and pain it can create Quoting: elbrianUh so babies don`t feel pain? More like you just don`t care. Plus, complications still may exist and they may be psychological. You don`t really know. And that`s another reason it`s evil. Yeah, I said one thing. Guess i don't care. You can start calling me a racist now if you please. That's the common mentality of these people. They don't believe in freedoms of the individual and the right to decide what to do with your own child. Just a bunch of religious/control freaks. Freedoms of the individual? How about the child? Is the child not an individual? Seriously? Seriously, seriously, seriously? I can't even believe you're arguing that circumcision is a parental RIGHT...but the child has no right at all. Children are not property. And foreskin is not a birth defect. What's a defect? You're born how you're born. If you're born with a cleft pallet, fixing it is mutilation. Period. And you can't believe I am in favor of the parent's right to decide? Well, I'm afraid I cannot really argue that one, as I figure it to be self-explanatory. I am so very grateful that my parents had the right to decide. Honestly though, I don't know if I'll circumcise my child (I'm not a father). However, I fully expect to have the right to do so if I choose to do so. A cleft palate IS a defect...not everyone is born with a cleft palate. ALL men are born with foreskin...and actually, if they're NOT it's considered a defect. It's called aposthia. I absolutely agree with a parents right to decide...but not about performing plastic surgery on their newborn. It's no different than getting your kid a nose job or breast implants because you prefer for them to look that way. It's abusive. And if husbands wanted to get their daughters labia lopped off because they preferred how it looked...people would think he were absolutely sick. Is that choice OK? Should we be able to do ANYTHING we want to our kids...just because it's our choice? The problem is the male circumcision is so engrained in our culture that we see no problem with it, when it is in fact an act of abuse. Physical abuse and abuse of power. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 428255 Bulgaria 11/25/2009 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only problem with getting it done in adulthood is the complications and pain it can create Quoting: elbrianUh so babies don`t feel pain? More like you just don`t care. Plus, complications still may exist and they may be psychological. You don`t really know. And that`s another reason it`s evil. Yeah, I said one thing. Guess i don't care. You can start calling me a racist now if you please. That's the common mentality of these people. They don't believe in freedoms of the individual and the right to decide what to do with your own child. Just a bunch of religious/control freaks. Freedoms of the individual? How about the child? Is the child not an individual? Seriously? Seriously, seriously, seriously? I can't even believe you're arguing that circumcision is a parental RIGHT...but the child has no right at all. Children are not property. And foreskin is not a birth defect. These people are pure evil...They obviously have children because of themselves and not because of the children themselves. Apparently children are some kind of property to them. You're obviously a moron and misinterpreting my message. I am not arguing circumcision vs. non-circumcision. I am arguing the parent's right to decide. You mean people`s right to take away their kids` rights to chose, and to mutilate them? What if they decide to cut one of their kids` year, for example? Will it be their "right" again? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 797966 United States 11/25/2009 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | :sk8rB: Except for a tiny minority, you hear very few complaints. I think it is people who hate Jews who are mainly behind all the complaints. Quoting: 9teen.47™Not at all. It's just mutilation plain and simple. Not to mention the person getting it has no choice in the matter, which is totally wrong. And now people know it is not necessary and has no real benefits. Why would you try to make it about Jews when Muslims have the same religious laws? You might want to educate yourself on a subject before making nonsense comments. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 428255 Bulgaria 11/25/2009 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't mind performing certain rituals on babies, as long as there is no psychical harm. I put circumcision and child abuse more or less on the same level. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 826794Maybe in a few 1000's years we will surpass the neo-intelligent state of our specie. I am hopeful. Or we`ll just destroy ourselves. And I`m not sure it`ll be a bad thing. People are too moronic |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 826926 United Kingdom 11/25/2009 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Children are not property. Quoting: elbrianAnd foreskin is not a birth defect. These people are pure evil...They obviously have children because of themselves and not because of the children themselves. Apparently children are some kind of property to them. You're obviously a moron and misinterpreting my message. I am not arguing circumcision vs. non-circumcision. I am arguing the parent's right to decide. You do NOT have a right as a parent to commission an act of assault and battery, resulting in grievous bodily harm, upon your male children. Asshole! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 428255 Bulgaria 11/25/2009 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only problem with getting it done in adulthood is the complications and pain it can create Quoting: Anonymous Coward 428255Uh so babies don`t feel pain? More like you just don`t care. Plus, complications still may exist and they may be psychological. You don`t really know. And that`s another reason it`s evil. Yeah, I said one thing. Guess i don't care. You can start calling me a racist now if you please. That's the common mentality of these people. They don't believe in freedoms of the individual and the right to decide what to do with your own child. Just a bunch of religious/control freaks. Freedoms of the individual? How about the child? Is the child not an individual? Seriously? Seriously, seriously, seriously? I can't even believe you're arguing that circumcision is a parental RIGHT...but the child has no right at all. Children are not property. And foreskin is not a birth defect. These people are pure evil...They obviously have children because of themselves and not because of the children themselves. Apparently children are some kind of property to them. You're obviously a moron and misinterpreting my message. I am not arguing circumcision vs. non-circumcision. I am arguing the parent's right to decide. You mean people`s right to take away their kids` rights to chose, and to mutilate them? What if they decide to cut one of their kids` year, for example? Will it be their "right" again? *ear |