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FHL(C) User ID: 830132 China 11/30/2009 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First and foremost, the Sumerians state categorically in their mythology that the Anunnaki were "seven gods of the underworld" not outer-space, not a twelfth planet, but the 'UNDERWORLD' which is central to the beliefs of all cultures from the Celts to the Maya. Quoting: Zecharia Sitchin debunked! 830391Utnapishtim sailed in a BOAT (not a spaceship) to reach this mystical 'Home of the Gods' where Anu was the ruler, (the equivalent of Zeus) to attain immortality. So, either the Sumerians did not know their own beliefs or Sitchin is telling porky-pies... Also, 'flying saucers' do not need a 'landing platform' like the monolithic structure at Baalbeck, they can land on your front lawn! So, here alone sets the groundwork that debunks Zecharia Sitchin and his Annunaki alien world history views! Thanks, good insight YAHshua the sound of His Name in English, YAH is short form of YHVH, Bible.PRAYERBOOK.Praisebook DOWNLOADs [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] [link to pdfhost.io (secure)] [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14102107 United States 04/10/2012 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Discussing the Anunnaki Papers by Wes Penre, Sunday, April 24, 2011 1. Abstract Before you start reading this paper, you either need to know Zecharia Sitchin's work pretty well already, or have studied my previous Anunnaki Papers #1-4. If not, this paper will not make much sense, because the discussion herein is mainly about conclusions, questions, and comments around Sitchin's work, and the significance of the Anunnaki influence on our human past, present and future. So, if you haven't studied this subject previously, I strongly suggest you get familiar with it before you continue any further. 2. The Accuracy of the Sumerian Cuneiform Clay Tablets The first thing we need to understand when we read Sitchin's work is that he translated the Sumerian tablets into modern language, drew his conclusions and found the coherency in it. That's all he could do. The tablets were written some 5-6000 years ago, by the end of the era of the Anunnaki's 450,000 years reign, or more, on Earth. The Sumerians were able to write down what was happening to them in their own lifetime and perhaps a few generations back and still get it fairly accurate, but anything that goes further back than that is hearsay. In other words, whatever happened before that was told to them by the Anunnaki themselves. It means that it could be altered to fit the gods. After all, they wanted to make sure that humans respected them and followed their orders. Some of the tablets could also have been written by them, or human scribes, with the intention to mislead. Anything is possible here, so please keep your mind very open when you continue reading: Figure 1: A Sumerian Clay Tablet Much of the information the Sumerians relied on, beside what the gods told them face to face was the teachings that came out from Ea's secret society, The Brotherhood of the Snake (or The Brotherhood of the Serpent). This first secret society on Earth is the father of all secret societies that followed, and albeit we may not always know what the secrets are at the top of organizations such as Freemasonry, the OTO, the Rosicrucian's, etc., we can assume that most of them have to do with the ancient gods, their knowledge in magic and the structure of the Universe (as they knew it), and the return of the gods. The information has been passed down through all these generations. There is way too much evidence in Sitchin's, and other similar researcher's work to discard them. Other such researchers that should be mentioned are, William Bramley, Erich von Däniken, Robert Morning Sky, Andrew Thomas, Maurice Chatelain, Harold T. Wilkins, Peter Kolosimo, Serge Hutin, W. Raymond Drake, and Jacques Vallee. Albeit, Sitchin has his debunkers, such as Mike Heiser[1]; at the end of the day, Sitchin still holds water. Some of what Sitchin claimed happened in the past has been verified by modern archeologists. Besides, they also correspond, and build upon, other ancient, sacred scriptures, including the Bible. His work is also backed up by most metaphysical sources, through channeling and by other means. However, the Sumerian Scriptures are telling only parts of the story, and are concentrating on certain areas of the planet, such as Mesopotamia, Egypt, South America, South Africa, Babylon etc. And like we mentioned earlier, it's all from the Anunnaki's perspective. Another reason to give credit to Sitchin's work is because the gods are still here, and those from the home planet (Nibiru) are returning on their 3,600 years cycle, approximately around 2060-2095. More about that later. I have already mentioned the LPG-C being in direct contact with the Nibiruans, but they are not the only ones. There are more people who have had face-to-face (Close Encounter of the 5th kind) with these beings, something we are also going to cover in depth later on. Figure 2: Orphan Planet Another question readers may have whether it's possible for planets to float around in space, like Nibiru did, before they are caught up by the gravity from a star system, please read this article from NASA: [link to science.nasa.gov] 3. Dr. Michael Heiser, Sitchin's Main Debunker Figure 3: Fr. Michael Heiser Just about everyone who is bringing some significant information out to the public have their debunkers. So also Sitchin, of course. The most "famous" of these debunker is perhaps Dr. Michael Heiser at [link to sitchiniswrong.com.] He has dedicated a whole website to debunk Sitchin and is also traveling around, holding lectures on this subject and others. Dr. Heiser is a linguist and claims that Sitchin's translations of the Sumerian cuneiform tablets are utterly wrong. Nowhere, says Heiser, is there any indication that the old Sumerians were talking about a 12th Planet or an alien race. He says that he is an expert in this language and knows what he is talking about. Of course, someone who doesn't speak the old Sumerian language can't verify whether he's correct or not, even when he's showing his "evidence". I'm not going to spend much time explaining what Dr. Heiser is talking about; you can check it out on his website if you like. One thing he claims is that Sitchin has made it all up like some kind of science-fiction novel. This is of course not true, and often Heiser doesn't seem to know what he's talking about at worst, or he was not a linguist at all and made wild guesses and put a story together that "seemed to fit" without any credible evidence. When met with criticism, he often gets quite upset and is not convincingly managing to hold his position. There are NASA videos of the incoming planet; it was in the newspapers in the early 1980s, and as I said, the Anunnaki are even walking among us, seen and encountered by many credible people, including LPG-C. In addition, we have a wealth of channeled information talking about this stuff. Speaking of LPG-C; when Dr. Bordon became aware of Dr. Heiser's debunking attempts, he emailed him the following response as a comment to Heiser's research. Heiser, of course, never replied: EMAIL TO MIKE HEISER 16 May 2011 Good afternoon, Mike. Just visited your blog (The Naked Bible/Eschatology [link to michaelsheiser.com] Took the time to read everything you have here, on your other site, The Facade, and borrowed a copy of your dissertation which I also carefully and thoughtfully read. After some careful consideration of what Sitchin said and did (and the “scholarship” with which he treated us through his Earth Chronicles) and the rebuttals you regaled us all in your websites which you so ably established sound basis in your dissertation, I came to realize two things: (1) the Nibiru phenomenon is that, a phenomenon that has become quite a meme in our culture as your stance and the people sharing their views and feelings on your sites indicate; indeed, throughout the world, and (2) the scholarship that supports or denies the reality of the phenomenon is Biblical and sumero-egyptologic – a fact that makes both sides (yours and Sitchin’s) open to claims that both are based upon (a) an interpretation of the historical record, (b) a matter of expertise in ancient near eastern languages, and (c) conclusions, being what they are (hypothetical written “pictures” or models of a phenomenon), can be again highly interpretive of the records treated as data supporting a view through the prism used by the interpreter: Sitchin says “it is,” and you say “it isn’t.” But the story does not end there. There is, as they say, a “door number 3.” This door is the one through which, wittingly or unwittingly, willingly or forced by circumstances, I am walking into this phenomenon. This is the door opened by experiencers who have come in contact with so-called Annunakis. In my case, it occurred when I was ten or eleven in South America, on the Parana River between Brazil and Paraguay, while fishing with my father northeast of Encarnacion, Paraguay. He and I were “picked up” by a triangular six-man craft and, while my father was kept sedated via interesting nonbiomedical means, I was not. This was the first of three encounters with the same individual who lead the first group on the Parana, and have since assisted the small scientific cooperative that LPG-C has been since the early ’90s with very advanced scientific information and the technology with which to get our own by the same, or similar means, they have for apparent eaons. They called it the “brilliance,” according to Sitchin; we were more mundane in the naming, referring to it as simply “the tank.” We’ve been at it since 1998, when the first of two prototypes were completed, tested, and much to our amazement, found it to work exceeding all of our expectations. The results have been cumuli of information about how nature is and how nature works, from the infinite to the infinitesimal, and presented in some detail and with an historical sense of order on our new and improved website at [link to www.lifephysicsgroup.org.] To wit: we are in process of miniaturizing the key aspects of this apparatus, such that it could be used by qualified scientists wishing to explore the same Nature we did. Oh, the surprises that await them. And we are not the only experiencers of these who call themselves Sa.a.mi. and you and Sitchin know as Annunaki and fit the bill in appearance for the ancient Annunaki and/or Nephilim (the latter seeming human-Annunaki hybrids). There are others, and there are also others who are quietly pursuing face-to-face benevolent contact with “giants” in several places (South America, southern Africa, and the Mideast). In a larger context, there is also an exopolitical framework which is impinged upon by the past (and which is the reason we now all need not scholarship proving one view or another, but rather a model of what we as humans face today and must literally face within 50 to 70 years from now). Whether or not Nibiru is a star or a planet or a comet, all of that is splitting hair. The IRAS pictures did not lie, and the current South Pole Telescope data is showing the incoming as being quite real, and incidentally, proving Jim McCanney’s contentions out to be more certain that any fiction I could write (and have written) about. No, Mike, this is not fable, and it is not prehistory. Let me close this unexpectedly longer note than I intended by simply asking (1) whether or not you’ve ever experienced a face to face presence with one of these creatures, and (2) what would you do if you could? Kind regards, A.R. BORDON Bordon also posted a slight variant of the above email on the same date, May 16, 2011, in Heiser's comment section. Bordon sent this in 2001 and is still waiting for a response: [link to michaelsheiser.com] Source - [link to wespenre.com] Sumerians and the Anunnaki. Presentation By Zecharia Sitchin (FULL) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14110978 Croatia 04/10/2012 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a side not, Jordan Maxwell,(Sitchin follower) is yet another of these new age scam artist that also needs to be exposed. Here is a video debunking his lies! I am not religious in any...so do not even think to ask... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 830391 [link to video.search.yahoo.com] Have you ever heard about this "new age" translation of The Seven Tablets of Creation, by by Leonard William King in London 1902? I bet you have not. So you better |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14087602 United States 04/10/2012 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First and foremost, the Sumerians state categorically in their mythology that the Anunnaki were "seven gods of the underworld" not outer-space, not a twelfth planet, but the 'UNDERWORLD' which is central to the beliefs of all cultures from the Celts to the Maya. Quoting: Zecharia Sitchin debunked! 830391 Utnapishtim sailed in a BOAT (not a spaceship) to reach this mystical 'Home of the Gods' where Anu was the ruler, (the equivalent of Zeus) to attain immortality. So, either the Sumerians did not know their own beliefs or Sitchin is telling porky-pies... What are you trying to do here? YOU KNOW very well you have no idea how they got here. Also, 'flying saucers' do not need a 'landing platform' like the monolithic structure at Baalbeck, they can land on your front lawn! How do you know? What if they involve dangerous radiation? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1526634 United States 04/10/2012 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First and foremost, the Sumerians state categorically in their mythology that the Anunnaki were "seven gods of the underworld" not outer-space, not a twelfth planet, but the 'UNDERWORLD' which is central to the beliefs of all cultures from the Celts to the Maya. Quoting: Zecharia Sitchin debunked! 830391 Utnapishtim sailed in a BOAT (not a spaceship) to reach this mystical 'Home of the Gods' where Anu was the ruler, (the equivalent of Zeus) to attain immortality. So, either the Sumerians did not know their own beliefs or Sitchin is telling porky-pies... Also, 'flying saucers' do not need a 'landing platform' like the monolithic structure at Baalbeck, they can land on your front lawn! So, here alone sets the groundwork that debunks Zecharia Sitchin and his Annunaki alien world history views! I would not defend Sitchin, but there are some problems with your debunk. 1) Tons of ancient alien believers say that the "space gods" came to Earth and built underground communities. I was just watching a whole episode of that History Channel show, about the giant under gound cities that could house 20,000 people and were beyond the tech of ancient humans, bla bla...so 2) They'd say, "Duh, the Sumerians didn't have a word for 'spaceship'. They just identified it with the closest thing in their understanding...a big vessel people get in for traveling...all they knew were "boats", so they called it a "boat". 3) You have no authority to say what "flying saucers" of the time, required for landing. |
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