Theoretical WW3.......what would the sides be?

hopefully all sides would realize that a group of old geezers that attend bilderberg every year is setting them up

Do any big whigs from China attend the Bilderberg meetings?

are you guys stupid?

I thought i just posted the same exact thread...

deja vu

Canada, USA, France, Israel,Mexico, Egypt, Saudi Arabia Kuwait.


Russia, Germany, China, Pakistan, Iran, Syria and Libya.

just some of the lineups in a world war 3 scenario.

old geezers = predominantly old white european of nobility, banking, media, etc.

if you were anti-nwo

your generation should be against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq since it was decided upon at the bilderberg meetings to invade so and so countries

but since many of your generation have willfully participated, you are no different than those who designed and engineered these wars in the first place

South Korea would be on our side while North Korea would be on the Russian side but who knows the Russians could be our enemy but turned friend. Their is a saying that goes something like "your enemy is your friend and your friend is your enemy'!!!!!!!!!!!

then you wave a peace sign?

you know how many languages have the term "white devil" in them?

hmmm?

Thread: History of the Twenty-First Century

The World War II ½ Theory

Some historians speculate that a major war, lasting about six years, broke out around 2012. The location most often suggested for this war is the Middle East. Although the identities of the players in this conflict are a matter of contentious debate, China seems to have been the primary benefactor of this hypothetical war, as China is known to have become the most influential world power in the Middle East by 2030. In addition, the United States and, to a lesser degree, Russia, seem to have expended a great deal of resources for some reason during the 2010s, as the national debt of both countries increased dramatically.

World War III

The next major war that we are aware of began in 2031, and primarily involved the United States and China. It may have started over a Chinese attempt to reclaim Taiwan. In any case, the conflict escalated, the United States and China exchanged nuclear salvos, and by 2039 Chinese ground troops had landed on the west coast of the United States. Chinese forces pushed all the way to the Rocky Mountains before the United States government capitulated. China retained the western United States from the Pacific Ocean to the Rocky Mountains, while a Chinese puppet was appointed as the new President, with control over the remaining territory from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic Ocean. The war resulted in an estimated 130 million combat deaths, and China became the dominant world hyperpower from that point on.

What is a "white devil?"

Don't understand what your statement is intended to mean.

my inspiration

I don't know...but Orwell's book 1984 come to mind...

G'day I'm an Aussie and an avid historian, the causes of the last two world wars were vastly different, although the goal to preserve freedom and democracy was similar.

So trying to use the causes of these wars or the sides that were involved as a basis for any theoretical WW3 is futile, I must say though the 'core Allies' will most probably be the same. So Here’s some predictions and analysis, personally I'd wager the mainstays of world democratic power will be facing off against Communism or communist sympathizers.

THE ALLIES:

The U.S.A

The United Kingdom

France

Germany (Wild Card)

Canada

Israel

Spain & Portugal (maybe)

Australia and New Zealand

South Africa (may stay neutral)

Greece and Italy.

India (Maybe)

It's pretty much a guarantee that The United States (no matter how much social and economic decline it’s in) and the United Kingdom (despite its vastly reduced influence and power) will Ally together, if either one declares war, the other will almost certainly follow. The two great democratic nations have grown increasingly close since ww2 and USA's temporary and somewhat British biased 'neutrality' in ww1 and ww2 would be non existent today.

France is a traditional Allied power and a grateful of liberation in WW2.

Germany is a democracy and while old wounds from WW2 still exist as do prejudices, the country was freed from communism and has healthy trade and diplomatic ties with the UK and USA. I know allot of people put them on the bad guys list, but I think its simply old school anti German sentiment, I wont rule out the possibility that the Germans would join the Evil side of ww3, but its probably slim.

Canada close ties to the USA and colonial links to UK and France.

Israel is a steadfast Ally of the USA and UK

The Spanish have long supported the USA and Portugal could follow suit. Any threat to peace and democracy would band nations together.

Australia and New Zealand have close colonial ties to the UK and close economic and military ties to the USA. Not to mention proximity to China being a threat of invasion or ranged warfare.

South Africa has shown tendencies to Sympathies with the USA and UK, although they may stay neutral at least for a time.

THE OPPOSING POWERS

The Peoples Republic of China & Dependant states.

North Korea

Iran

Saudi Arabia (could remain neutral and sell oil to both sides, Oil trade in its self could swing the Kingdom either way)

Syria

Pakistan

Indonesia

Cuba


China is an obvious contender, they're big, they're getting quite aggressive and they're communist.

North Korea would simply follow China. Kim wants the south back and hates the Allies.

Iran, in a theoretical WW3 I'm betting that the Islamic Middle east with a burning hate for the west especially after the Iraq and Afghan wars would be very opturnistic and ally themselves with anyone opposing the USA. The Sharing of funds, plans for diving the world between them and Military assistance would be a given.

Pakistan and Indonesia would likely take advantage of the War and join the Opposing powers, especially considering their hate of India and Australia respectively. Also they're a majority Islamic nation, ww3 could be seen as a jihad if Iran and middle eastern nations join.

WILD CARDS:

Germany. See above. It's a very slim chance that Germany would join the baddies. They're a democracy and have strong ties to the USA and UK. Bet on them being an Ally, the restrictions put on their Military since ww2 may not be lifted but they could easily produce weapons and finances.

Russia. This is a tough one, there is a lot of resentment between the former USSR and the West. They in fact were a 'different kind' of communist to the Chinese, but that mightn't make a difference. Hostilities and tensions still flare between Russia and the USA. They also share a land border with China, this could mean they want to defend it from China or share resources via that connection. I'd wager they'll join the Chinese as long as they aren't threatened by them. Russia in the past is renowned for changing sides.

NEUTRAL NATIONS:

Switzerland

Sweden

Norway

Most of South America (although some may sympathise aginst the USA)

Almost all of Africa

A lot of Eastern Europe (some could Ally with Russia)


I wont say what starts this war but Either Middle East tensions or Chinese aggression could and the end result either way would potentially be the same, Either one China or The Middle east would join each other out of opportunity, no matter who started it.

Of course this is just my opinion from studying modern politics, but politics change so fast this could alter in a split second.

...Whoever says that germany would be opposing the western alliesis retarded, they are a part of the EU, UN and NATO among other organizations, they are one of our strongest allies, and thier entire economy relies on the United States anyways.

As for Russia, thier foreign policies are tricky, but the alliance they signed with China, North Korea, etc. would almost force thier hand to join "the new axis of evil" as i like to call it.

So these are what the sides would look like in order of military rankings.

THE WESTERN ALLIES-

-THE UNITED STATES
-THE UNITED KINGDOM
-FRANCE
-GERMANY*
-JAPAN*
-INDIA*
-ISRAEL
-SOUTH KOREA
-CANADA
-SAUDI ARABIA
-ITALY
-BRAZIL
-MEXICO
-AUSTRALIA
-SPAIN
-MEXICO
-POLAND
-SEVERAL MORE

* = IN A WARTIME SCENARIO THESE COUNTRIES WOULD RANK HIGHER, JAPAN COULD BE AS HIGH AS NUMBER 2 FOR THE WESTERN ALLIES, INDIA OR GERMANY COULD BE NUMBER 3.

THE "AXIS OF EVIL"-

-CHINA*
-RUSSIA*
-IRAN*
-NORTH KOREA*
-TURKEY
-SYRIA*
-INDONESIA**
-VENEZUELA*
-CUBA*
-MALAYSIA
-PALESTINE
-SUDAN
-ALGERIA
-BANGLADESH
-BOLIVA*
-SEVERAL MORE

* = MEMBERS OF THE TREATY THAT IF ONE OF THESE NATIONS DECLARE WAR OR WAR IS DECLARED UPON THEM, ALL OF THE OTHER PARTY MEMBERS WILL JOIN THIS NATION

** = INDONESIA HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE MORE POWERFUL THAN IRAN TAKING THE NUMBER 3 SPOT IN THE NEW "AXIS OF EVIL"

WILD CARDS

-PAKISTAN
-JORDAN
-UNITED ARAB EMIRATES

The Zionist Jews are in control of the west, anyone dumb enough to join the army and die for these fucks is an idiot.

The EU and the USA will ally this means Germany will be allied with the EU.

Russia most likely will be its own 'partner'.

China most likely will be its own.

We are stuck in thinking of past terms of two poles to a war. The future war will have several poles, several alliances fighting over the dwindling resources of this dying era of civilization.

It is a mistake to continue to look at Russia and Germany as 'enemies'. While they were a generation ago, the new folk in power are more sympathetic to capitalism and the notion of Democracy.

IF its a Theological War, starting in the Middle East, large players like China may remain silent until they are pulled into the war much like the USA was pulled into WWII with the incident at Pearl Harbor.

While we may think that North Korea is protected by China, if North Korea starts the issues it most likely will find itself sitting high and dry as China is not in the mood to fight a war, its currently working on dominating the world through commerce and a war is contrary to that end.

If south Korea starts it, the USA most likely will not get involved, we are tired of war and if South Korea starts war, we will suddenly declare it a 'terrorist nation'.

It is really hard to say what will happen in general, there is too many players now, too many things at stake.

No one wants a nuclear war. Least ways none of the the more powerful nations that possess nukes.

Even North Korea is not seeking Nukes to use, it only wants the protection that having nuclear capability brings with it.

USA vs THE WORLD

How can you forget chinas neighbor to the north, mongolia. Mongolia still has a lot of hate for china

Don't be so quick to have Turkey siding with the "Axis of Evil". They have been trying to sneak their way into the EU for years now, and this could be their chance to prove that they belong. I know they were less than helpful at the beginning of the Iraq War, but they seem pretty fed-up with the Middle East.

Also, don't count out the Eastern European countries or Scandinavia and Finland. Finland was a beast in the Winter War against Russia, and countries such as Hungary, Romania, and Poland want nothing more than to remain allied to the United States.

i've been there on hols

they HATE us.

Which ever sides line up. I'm pretty sure that a lot will swap sides pretty quickly after the first moves. Also don't forget that the western military has been fighting for ages. Their tactics have, without a doubt, been studied and I'll bet my bottom dollar that the other side has worked out some spectacular counter moves.

no probs mate

our giant triangular craft will trump their spectacular moves

You're all wrong. It'll start over a civil war in Ukraine sometime around 2020. Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan and a couple of smaller 'stans on one side, and USA, Poland, Britain, Georgia, Turkey, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary and the Baltic States on the other.

I'll tell you the first thing to be hit, probably just before the war goes official...Satellite spying and communications. And while the western world, that rely heavily on this tech are re-wiring lines of communication etc, the other side takes full advantage and gives a massive punch. That's when allied countries will do another risk assessment and decide to change sides.

Let me make this perfectly clear..... Russia and China have more nukes individually than the US. Even with our missile defense shield, it would be difficult to handle a nuclear war. Russia and China also have weapons we haven't even designed yet. The earth currently can't support the population growth of the world.... war will come sooner than expected to reduce the numbers. US can't pay it's bills and like the mafia, other countries will start coming after us.

I would bet that the world population is cut pretty close to half by 2015.

I hate ignorant people the sides would be 1: united states,south Korea, Russia because of the increasing border tensions and clashes wih china they are becoming increasing hostile but the alliance would be uneasy, India, because it is somewhat allied with Russia but they could go either way, Britain, france, Germany, Israel and Japan 2:China, Iran and north Korea. I bealive these countries will be aliies because china has been making ties wih north Korea and they hate the united states and Iran because I believe that china is helping them wih their nuclear programs and has made an alliance with them seeing how they refused getting their oil from Pakistan who said they would supplie them with an equal amount because of "Diplomatic reasons" China begs for war will we give it to them? Thank god they have a treaty to only launch nukes if fired on first or else it would probably end the world

There will be no WWIII since everyone is one of our "closest and strongest allies" and "punches above their weight"....except Denmark.

Exactly!

That is why my choice is the other side.